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31 minutes ago, smashstuff said:

This is not a valid excuse.  If this were true, why not tell us?  "Bill Gates has threatened to release a 'real' virus if we don't lock down the country".  People would listen, and he has the biggest platform in the country to get the word out.

 

Fair point, but I'm going with Conan Doyle on this: Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

 

They all look - and act - as though they are being blackmailed.

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The debt of most Nations has rocketed since the Con Virus.

 

Mega Corporations like Amazon, Banks and the Pharmaceutical giants will make huge profits from this scam

 

The UK for example.

 

52 BILLION POUNDS EACH YEAR AND RISING IN INTEREST PAYMENTS TO BANKS, WHO CREATE MONEY FROM NOTHING.

 

Expect income tax and VAT hikes as well as severe austerity measures.

 

https://worlddebtclocks.com/unitedkingdom

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9 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

 

Fair point, but I'm going with Conan Doyle on this: Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

 

They all look - and act - as though they are being blackmailed.

I thought exactly this. Along the lines of.get the brits to comply or you're dead. He's even been saying it's difficult to get 'free thinking ' Britain's on board. 

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I thought exactly this. Along the lines of.get the brits to comply or you're dead. He's even been saying it's difficult to get 'free thinking ' Britain's on board. 

I think freedom is at stake- he's playing the fool, oppostion would demand test and trace and less freedoms to keep everyone safe

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Matt Hancock with Bill Gates at the World Economic Forum in 2019

 

(Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) threatens the effective prevention and treatment of an ever-increasing range of infections caused by bacteria, parasites, viruses and fungi. AMR is an increasingly serious threat to global public health that requires action across all government sectors and society)

 

 

 

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Just now, Golden Retriever said:

Matt Hancock with Bill Gates at the World Economic Forum in 2019

 

(Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) threatens the effective prevention and treatment of an ever-increasing range of infections caused by bacteria, parasites, viruses and fungi. AMR is an increasingly serious threat to global public health that requires action across all government sectors and society)

 

 

 

Hancock does look like someone who can be controlled. Bet he's got some dirty rotten secrets

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This whole cases hysteria is ridiculous. How many people are being admitted to hospitals with serious respiratory illnesses? If the rates are no higher than normal, then how in the world can they seriously justify any more locking down of the economy? It boggles the mind that they are relying on this bogus RNA test that has been shown time and time again that it should not be used for testing. 

 

Cases is all too convenient for them because they don't even need to prove anything, it doesn't even need actual sick people or hospital visits for it to be considered a threat. They could be assigning case counts to track and trace exposed people for all we know. Were you in the room with someone that tested positive and they have your details? well now you are a positive case... 

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2 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

This whole cases hysteria is ridiculous. How many people are being admitted to hospitals with serious respiratory illnesses? If the rates are no higher than normal, then how in the world can they seriously justify any more locking down of the economy? It boggles the mind that they are relying on this bogus RNA test that has been showed time and time again that it should not be used for testing. 

 

I guess that's what I was trying to get at. It's now so obvious it's nothing to do with cases - or even a virus - that we should stop looking for any logic in that area. There's something much more sinister going on. We have to accept it, as unpleasant as that is.

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1 hour ago, smashstuff said:

This is not a valid excuse.  If this were true, why not tell us?  "Bill Gates has threatened to release a 'real' virus if we don't lock down the country".  People would listen, and he has the biggest platform in the country to get the word out.

 

Because the media machine will say he's lost his marbles, and make him a laughing stock. Such a thing may work if a large number of world leaders united to say it.

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6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

have always said thi is to reassure the public that its safe to go out. 

 

People have been so shit scared that it gives them a safety net- its psycological and financial

 

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/face-masks-and-gdp.html

 

A more abrupt shift has occurred in the official view on face masks. As late as March 30, the World Health Organization advised that there was “no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit.”[2] Since then, however, the public health community’s thinking has changed dramatically and many governments have started to require the wearing of face masks.

Should the United States follow these countries and adopt a national face mask mandate? This is inherently a political decision, but we can use our analytical tools to answer three questions that are relevant to it. First, how effective is a face mask mandate in increasing face mask usage? Second, does increased face mask usage lower virus transmission, and if so by how much? And third, how economically valuable is a face mask mandate in terms of reducing the need for broad lockdowns with their well-documented negative effects on GDP?

Face Mask Mandates and Usage

At present, the United States is among the less restrictive countries with respect to face mask mandates. The federal government did issue a national “recommendation” to wear masks in public settings in April, and many state and local governments have taken more stringent measures. However, a recommendation is not a mandate and the governors of both Florida and Texas—the two most heavily affected large states—recently reiterated their opposition to a statewide mask mandate. By contrast, many European countries now have national mask mandates in place, as shown in Exhibit 1, and much of East Asia has strong social norms of mask wearing when sick and during pandemics.

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55 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

 

Fair point, but I'm going with Conan Doyle on this: Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

 

They all look - and act - as though they are being blackmailed.

 

They're not being blackmailed, they are all quite willing to carry out the parasite's orders.......Nothing more than puppets.

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5 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Julia Hartley-Brewer of Talk Radio has been doing an excellent job grilling cabinet ministers about the false positive rate (FPR) of coronavirus testing. She interviewed Matt Hancock last week and Grant Shapps, Transport Secretary, yesterday. From around 10:10 in the video below, she asks the crucial question as to whether members of the cabinet have even discussed the FPR. After seemingly trying to wriggle out of the question, Grant Shapps finally admits that they haven't. And he, just as Matt Hancock last week, shows his lack of understanding of the meaning of the FPR which suggests that a vast over-estimation of "cases" is informing policy decisions.

 

This article explains more:

 

https://thecritic.co.uk/matt-hancock-obstinate-or-innumerate/

 

 

 

Thanks @Mitochondrial Eve

Its good that someone prominant is raising this and she needs to be tenacious and not lose sight of testing as its pivotal.

 

It would be more accurate to assess by symptoms as has always been done.

It seems this technological age is the new dark age!  Conflate and confuse!

 

Tests do not equal cases.

Clearly identifiable symptoms equal possible cases  (& why bother testing as symptome are more accurate!)

No symptoms = no case !

An average or below average mortality rate for time of year = No pandemic

 

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55 minutes ago, Jack said:

I think freedom is at stake- he's playing the fool, oppostion would demand test and trace and less freedoms to keep everyone safe

What a piece of vermin. Bumbling twat can't even string a sentence together, he feins ignorance but is actively involved.

 

Apparently in the Bullingdon club, Oxford uni he would burn £50 notes in front of homeless people as an initiation into their little fraternity.  Another known member is David Oink Cameron.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/2833129/bullingdon-club-oxford-why-burn-50-notes/amp/

 

If anyone acts like he is just a puppet then you are misguided. He loves Rothschild with a passion. Here he is cycling down Rothschild Boulevard with the mayor of Tel Aviv. 

Another scumbag added to the long list of scumbags.

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2 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

The debt of most Nations has rocketed since the Con Virus.

 

Mega Corporations like Amazon, Banks and the Pharmaceutical giants will make huge profits from this scam

 

The UK for example.

 

52 BILLION POUNDS EACH YEAR AND RISING IN INTEREST PAYMENTS TO BANKS, WHO CREATE MONEY FROM NOTHING.

 

Expect income tax and VAT hikes as well as severe austerity measures.

 

https://worlddebtclocks.com/unitedkingdom

 

Only one way out

Our own debt free non usurous monetary system - Bradbury/greenback equivalent - by the people for the people and undesr full public scrutiny/oversight with full transparency.

Otherwise these problems remain and will always remain!

I know this is a long way off if ever,  but is nevertheless true.

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On 9/21/2020 at 5:37 PM, Illmatic said:

Looks like we're sliding slowly into lockdown 2 through gradually tightening restrictions, just in time for Christmas.

 

This eventually has to end in riots and massive social unrest. You have to think that this is expected by the people who are implementing this.

 

What's giving me a lot of hope is that I'm not sure this plan is entirely as well thought-out as people think. A mistake I feel is made in the truther community a lot is giving these people too much credit and imagining that we're seeing 4D chess playing out here rather than an absolute farce. One reason I started thinking a bit differently about the way these things work is my father was in politics when I was young and I got a bit of an inside look behind the curtain from the stories he would tell. One I remember very well is that he said he'd met several people who'd attended Bildeberg meetings and far from a coordinated effort in a dark shadowy room it was a lot of old bankers arguing and shouting at eachother.

 

I think at this stage civil unrest is inevitable. What's not certain is what is going to come out of this. It seems a little like the 2021 and 2030 agendas weren't moving fast enough so they've basically pressed the self-destruct button on the current economic model in the hopes that they can pick up the pieces and create a more streamlined cashless system that they can pair with social credit and a universal basic income.

 

What we've got to count on now is that this is moving too fast. More and more people are finally smelling a rat and favour for these policies is getting lower and lower. I've mentioned health passports to quite a few people recently and almost all have seen through it for what it really is: totalitarian control. Of course governments can just match the unrest with military action, but then they'll have to count on the army staying compliant, and if they're the only thing standing between the government and an angry mob coups are a real possibility.

 

It could be a long dark road ahead of us, but I think we have to keep in mind the grand scale of this agenda and how history has taught us that keeping billions of people in check has so far never worked. The future is far from certain, but this could be an opportunity for real positive change.

 

Great points. I reckon if 20% of the population, national or world, say NO  to these 'measures', it's game up for the bastards.

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47 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

What a piece of vermin. Bumbling twat can't even string a sentence together, he feins ignorance but is actively involved.

 

Apparently in the Bullingdon club, Oxford uni he would burn £50 notes in front of homeless people as an initiation into their little fraternity.  Another known member is David Oink Cameron.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/2833129/bullingdon-club-oxford-why-burn-50-notes/amp/

 

If anyone acts like he is just a puppet then you are misguided. He loves Rothschild with a passion. Here he is cycling down Rothschild Boulevard with the mayor of Tel Aviv. 

Another scumbag added to the long list of scumbags.

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1 hour ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

What a piece of vermin. Bumbling twat can't even string a sentence together, he feins ignorance but is actively involved.

 

Apparently in the Bullingdon club, Oxford uni he would burn £50 notes in front of homeless people as an initiation into their little fraternity.  Another known member is David Oink Cameron.

 

 

Yeah his freedoms and his elks used to go out on binges and wreck the pubs afterwards.

 

It was very popular with our local University too 

They would go to a pub, drink loads then smash the place up.

Furniture, windows, cars, paint,the lot.

 

They'd pay damages and thats that

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This is a very important interview with new (to me) information about last week-ends protest. Imo Anna Brees true colours shine through, i.e.

she is not to be trusted.  Talking about the protest this coming week-end Brees says she cannot promote it because she's a journalist,

not an activist!  She looked uncomfortable knowing there were ex SAS men in the crowd to protect the stage and speakers from police.

 

From 12 minutes he explains how the trouble started.

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Golden Retriever said:

This is a very important interview with new (to me) information about last week-ends protest. Imo Anna Brees true colours shine through, i.e.

she is not to be trusted.  Talking about the protest this coming week-end Brees says she cannot promote it because she's a journalist

not an activist! She looked uncomfortable knowing there were ex SAS men in the crowd to protect the stage and speakers from police.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I couldnt watch it after a while. Stopped it.

 

Shes out of her depth. Fraud.

 

 

 

 

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OK, so this thing started in Wuhan.

It got on a plane and went skiing in Italy.Somehow got on a cruiseship .

 

Then it came to somewhere up North and started infecting everyone.

It then hibernated a bit and all of a sudden it doubles every week.

 

Is there another world lockdown? Wuhan looks normal. Is it because we are not compliant enough

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