Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[oneantisworthtenofyou]

1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

It's the indoctrination we've all been subjected to since birth. Leaning compliance in school, learning generally nothing about the world and calling that education. The apathy displayed around the world is frightening, but hopefully enough are starting to wake from their slumber. 

i agree state school teaches children not to think instead to obey authority without question

the majority of people take it for granted that kindness and compassion are virtues

they're ignorant to the fact the elite are taught these are signs of weakness and the need for approval 

teaching children to be leaders and dominant controllers of other people is a completely different set of ruthless non compassionate ethics

 

George Carlin - It's a big club and you ain't in it

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2020 by oneantisworthtenofyou

[Mitochondrial Eve]

Julia Hartley-Brewer of Talk Radio has been doing an excellent job grilling cabinet ministers about the false positive rate (FPR) of coronavirus testing. She interviewed Matt Hancock last week and Grant Shapps, Transport Secretary, yesterday. From around 10:10 in the video below, she asks the crucial question as to whether members of the cabinet have even discussed the FPR. After seemingly trying to wriggle out of the question, Grant Shapps finally admits that they haven't. And he, just as Matt Hancock last week, shows his lack of understanding of the meaning of the FPR which suggests that a vast over-estimation of "cases" is informing policy decisions.

 

This article explains more:

 

https://thecritic.co.uk/matt-hancock-obstinate-or-innumerate/

 

Dr Mike Yeadon, a senior research scientist who was the head of R&D at Pfizer, told Julia Hartley-Brewer on TalkRADIO on Wednesday that she should ask the Secretary of State for Health what the false positive rate is the next time he’s on her show. Well, Matt Hancock appeared on her show 

Friday morning and she put the question to him. His answer was “less than one percent”.

As Julia pointed out on Twitter, that wasn’t as reassuring as he hoped.

Matt Hancock told me on @talkRADIO that the False Positive Rate of Covid tests in the community is “under 1%”. Sounds good, doesn’t it? WRONG!

An FPR of 0.8% when the virus prevalence is so low means that at least 91% of “Covid cases” are FALSE POSITIVES.

This FPR means that thousands of the people testing positive for coronavirus in the community are NOT in fact currently infected with Covid and they CANNOT infect others with the virus. That’s why the “rising Covid cases” is not translating into mass deaths.

Oxford Uni Prof @carlheneghan has already shown that, even an FPR as low as 0.1% in community testing returns over 55% false positives.

The Government is planning to lockdown our country again when there is no evidence of a second wave. 

We cannot allow this to happen.

You can read Julia Hartley-Brewer’s Twitter thread here.

One alarming thing about Hancock’s reply to Julia’s question is that he appears to think the false positive rate, or FPR, is the percentage of people among those who’ve tested positive who are, in fact, negative. After telling Julia that the FPR was “less than one per cent”, he went on to say: “Under one percent means that for all the positive cases the likelihood of one being a false positive is very small.” No, Health Secretary. The FPR is the percentage of all the people you’ve tested who are found, falsely, to be positive. And when the prevalence of infection is low, that means the likelihood of a positive test result being a false positive is very high.

The smarter a person is, the more effortlessly they are able to believe whatever is in their best interests to believe

To illustrate this, let’s suppose that 11 in 10,000 people in England have the virus, which is what the latest ONS Coronavirus Infection Survey estimates (week of Sept 4 – 10). So according to the Health Secretary’s understanding, if the PCR test has an FPR of 0.8% and you test 10,000 people and 91 test positive, that means that 0.8% x 91 are false positives, i.e. less than one person in the 10,000 is a false positive; one out of the 91 who tested positive. But in fact the numerator is all the people you’ve tested – that’s who the FPR applies to – not just those who’ve tested positive. So, the number of false positives is 0.8% x 10,000, i.e. 80 people. To be clear, 80 of the 91, not one out of the 91, are recorded as positive when they are not. Which leaves exactly 11 “true” positives. Just one in 9 of those getting a positive result actually carry the virus. In other words, because the Health Secretary appears not to understand what an FPR is, he’s over-estimating the number of true positives by at least 700%.

 

 

 

[bamboozooka]

well i will have to get smashed by 10

then stagger home swatting rona bugs as i go.

[Fluke]

1 minute ago, bamboozooka said:

well i will have to get smashed by 10

then stagger home swatting rona bugs as i go.

You would be better leaving at 9:30. I hear the virus becomes particularly deadly at 10:30 and ferociously deadly by 11pm. It is indeed a very smart virus. Even lets us out to drink but on a curfee  

[Artmuzz]

The new restrictions for England are retarded but the new restrictions for Scotland are even more retarded. According to Wee Krankie people are not allowed to share car journeys with other people (friends, family) from different households yet it’s perfectly fine to share bus journeys with strangers on a bus. This is ludicrous. Only a megalomaniac like Krankie can make rules like that.

Edited September 22, 2020 by Artmuzz

[Grumpy Owl]

5 hours ago, Number6 said:

False-positive PCR results linked to administration of seasonal influenza vaccine

T Curran et al. J Med Microbiol. 2012 Mar.

 

Quote "detection studies demonstrated vaccine RNA still detectable for at least 66 days. Administration of influenza vaccines and clinical sampling in the same room resulted in the contamination with vaccine strains of surveillance swabs collected from patients with ILI. Vaccine contamination should therefore be considered, particularly where multiple influenza virus RNA PCR positive signals (e.g. H1N1, H3N2 and influenza B) are detected in the same specimen".

 

All the way back in 2012 eh,  

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22096134/

 

Not on here, but I warned about this a couple of weeks ago, when I learned about how efforts were being made to push people to take the 'flu vaccine' this year.

 

I was talking with one of my neighbours last week about this, who told me that they had booked appointments to get the 'flu jab'. My words to them: "well don't be surprised if you end up getting tested 'positive' for Covid as a result".

 

People in general seem to have lost any understanding of viruses and vaccines and how they 'work'.

 

A 'vaccine' sees you getting injected with a 'small' quantity of a virus, in order for your body's immune system to develop a 'resistance' against it, by creating antibodies. I had the 'TB jab' when I was a kid (for tuberculosis) and I do remember it was all explained at the time, I'd be injected with a tiny amount of TB etc, and I still have the scar as most people do.

 

But if influenza is caused by one of many 'coronaviruses' then certainly if you get a flu vaccine, you are going to be injected with some kind of 'coronavirus'. Then later on, if you get 'tested' for Covid, your result is definitely going to come back 'positive', because your immune system is going to have reacted and produced antibodies to fight off the 'infection' to develop immunity.

 

So yeah, I'm not surprised in the least that people are being encouraged to take up flu vaccines "to protect them" and then end up testing 'positive' for Covid when the time arises.

 

Another way of 'artificially stimulating' the case figures?

[Ziggy Sawdust]

I'm 71......never had a flu injection in my life.

Or flu.

[shadowmoon]

1 minute ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

I'm 71......never had a flu injection in my life.

Or flu.

Spoke to a guy about  your age yesterday,  he was telling me the usual last time he was injected he got flu.

He was surprised when I  said they get £10 for every vaccination. 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

12 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

Spoke to a guy about  your age yesterday,  he was telling me the usual last time he was injected he got flu.

He was surprised when I  said they get £10 for every vaccination. 

 

My braindead 68 year old sister and her husband (same age and just as indoctrinated) ) both had them for the first time around 10 months ago.

The pair of them  became very unwell within a couple of days.

I did try warning the dimwits  but they're prime sheep.

[Golden Retriever]

30 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Not on here, but I warned about this a couple of weeks ago, when I learned about how efforts were being made to push people to take the 'flu vaccine' this year.

 

I was talking with one of my neighbours last week about this, who told me that they had booked appointments to get the 'flu jab'. My words to them: "well don't be surprised if you end up getting tested 'positive' for Covid as a result".

 

People in general seem to have lost any understanding of viruses and vaccines and how they 'work'.

 

A 'vaccine' sees you getting injected with a 'small' quantity of a virus, in order for your body's immune system to develop a 'resistance' against it, by creating antibodies. I had the 'TB jab' when I was a kid (for tuberculosis) and I do remember it was all explained at the time, I'd be injected with a tiny amount of TB etc, and I still have the scar as most people do.

 

But if influenza is caused by one of many 'coronaviruses' then certainly if you get a flu vaccine, you are going to be injected with some kind of 'coronavirus'. Then later on, if you get 'tested' for Covid, your result is definitely going to come back 'positive', because your immune system is going to have reacted and produced antibodies to fight off the 'infection' to develop immunity.

 

So yeah, I'm not surprised in the least that people are being encouraged to take up flu vaccines "to protect them" and then end up testing 'positive' for Covid when the time arises.

 

Another way of 'artificially stimulating' the case figures?

 

It's going to be mandatory in Andalucia for people over 65. My mother is 87 years. She has never had influenza, nor the vaccine. She doesn't want the jab.

I'm foreseeing a battle with the medical establishment. They can't pin her down and give her the vaccine, but I'm sure they'll sanction her in another way, i.e.

take away State medical care, making her pay for private care.

 

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/04/22/flu-vaccinations-will-be-mandatory-for-pensioners-in-spains-andalucia-this-year-as-health-bosses-fear-a-complicated-winter-due-to-coronavirus/

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

1 hour ago, Artmuzz said:

The new restrictions for England are retarded but the new restrictions for Scotland are even more retarded. According to Wee Krankie people are not allowed to share car journeys with other people (friends, family) from different households yet it’s perfectly fine to share bus journeys with strangers on a bus. This is ludicrous. Only a megalomaniac like Krankie can make rules like that.

 

I tried explaining this to someone the other day.

 

I can't have more than six people in my house, because we'll all die.

But if there's a group of seven of us, we can hang out together on a bus, train, or in a pub, restaurant or even the local park, and we're fine, we won't die.

 

If I go to a cafe or restaurant, it is insisted that I should wear a mask while moving through the premises. But once I sit down at a table to eat, then I can take off the mask. (Because the virus likes to leave people alone when they're eating).

 

If we go to the pub, we're all fine and safe until 10pm. But then we must leave, because presumably the 'virus' becomes dangerous after that time. So surely the virus is less dangerous and 'harmful' before 10pm then? Are we all safer until 10pm?

 

If I have less than six people round my house, can they stay after 10pm? Is the virus able to differentiate between a 'public' house and a private one?

 

People are only going along with these bollocks rules being made up on the fly because they have been brainwashed by the media and government propaganda.

 

 

[shadowmoon]

31 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

My braindead 68 year old sister and her husband (same age and just as indoctrinated) ) both had them for the first time around 10 months ago.

The pair of them  became very unwell within a couple of days.

I did try warning the dimwits  but they're prime sheep.

 

What can you do?

At least you have tried. 

 

[Shy Talk]

The only explanation for this now that I can see, especially given the way Boris, Vallance, Whitty, etc can appear so solemn (and it applies to govts worldwide) as they ruin the lives of everyone is that they've been warned by the real characters in charge that if they don't comply, a genuine virus will be unleashed (as Billy boy warned in summer with a smirk). It's difficult to see another reason for this lunacy. Back in March Boris wanted to go with herd immunity for Christ's sake yet he's now cowering under a spike in testing.

[wideawake]

Here where I live in Canada, moose season just started this morning and the government orders are that moose have to keep their 2m distance from hunters because of the scamdemic. I even seen a couple moose going with  masks on, obviously they never logged in on DI forum... 

Anyway, I know of a few hunters that will have a hard time to bag their limits this year...  

Edited September 22, 2020 by wideawake

[Golden Retriever]

13 minutes ago, wideawake said:

Here where I live in Canada, moose season just started this morning and the government orders are that moose have to keep their 2m distance from hunters because of the scamdemic. I even seen a couple moose going with  masks on, obviously they never logged in on DI forum... 

Anyway, I know of a few hunters that will have a hard time to bag their limits this year...  

 

Don't mess with the moose

 

 

[Clubsandwich]

https://unherd.com/thepost/whitty-vallance-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/
 

 

[Mikhail Liebestein]

 

13 minutes ago, wideawake said:

Anyway, I know of a few hunters that will have a hard time to bag their limits this year...  

 

I knew a guy like that in the army.

 

He also ran ahead of the shooters in a live firing exercise, whilst on auto.

 

Was booted out shortly after, better than getting slotted!

 

 

[smashstuff]

55 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

The only explanation for this now that I can see, especially given the way Boris, Vallance, Whitty, etc can appear so solemn (and it applies to govts worldwide) as they ruin the lives of everyone is that they've been warned by the real characters in charge that if they don't comply, a genuine virus will be unleashed (as Billy boy warned in summer with a smirk). It's difficult to see another reason for this lunacy. Back in March Boris wanted to go with herd immunity for Christ's sake yet he's now cowering under a spike in testing.

This is not a valid excuse.  If this were true, why not tell us?  "Bill Gates has threatened to release a 'real' virus if we don't lock down the country".  People would listen, and he has the biggest platform in the country to get the word out.

[wideawake]

7 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

Don't mess with the moose

 

The man should've known it wasn't a good idea seeing the moose's reaction prior to getting too close. It's even worse knowing the moose didn't have a mask... darn, dangerous world we live in.  

[bryan]

1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

It's going to be mandatory in Andalucia for people over 65. My mother is 87 years. She has never had influenza, nor the vaccine. She doesn't want the jab.

I'm foreseeing a battle with the medical establishment. They can't pin her down and give her the vaccine, but I'm sure they'll sanction her in another way, i.e.

take away State medical care, making her pay for private care.

 

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/04/22/flu-vaccinations-will-be-mandatory-for-pensioners-in-spains-andalucia-this-year-as-health-bosses-fear-a-complicated-winter-due-to-coronavirus/

 

 

 

"There were 95,834 mild cases of flu in the region last year with 4,080 hospitalisations. Some 1,416 of cases were severe, of which 49% had not been vaccinated."

 

So 51% of the severe cases had been vaccinated.

[wingwang]

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

4:09 Dissident round up inbound? When he says the fucking army I think we all know what that means.

 

[FVCK BILLY G4TES]

Also his "testing dream" is Israeli tech most likely. They have a device where you breathe into it and the can see what conditions/ailments affect your lungs.

 

Prince Charles, Israel visit Jan 2020

Professor at Technion – Israel Institute of Technology – who specialises in nanotechnology applications in medicine.

 

 

He had brought a prototype of his Sniff Phone – which analyses a persons breath to detect a range of

illnesses.

 

Professor Haick told Charles, as the engineer and scientist held the device, slightly larger than a mobile phone: “Every disease has a unique finger print of chemicals.

“It analyses breath and detect 17 different types of disease from cancers to neuro-degenerative diseases.”

 

 

NHS is basically an Israeli company now so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the tests British Gestapo roll out, is Israeli technology.

 

Waiting for the Belt & Road are we Alexander D'Pfeffel? You make me sick.

[kj35]

On a good note...after 6 months of my family thinking and calling me mad. Insisting on face masks. Calling me David Icke etc etc etc...every one of them are now saying this is shit. They are lying. This doesn't make sense

...

 

HAH ....WE ARE COMING FOR YOU 1 PERCENTERS ....EVERYONE IS STARTING TO SEE THROUGH YOU 

[Golden Retriever]

I enjoy giving a thumbs down to all the videos from the World Economic Forum.

 

I haven't listened to all of this video, but Lydie Hudson, Chief Executive Officer, Sustainability, Research and Investment Solutions at Credit Suisse Bank

is saying the world on the whole is already in a DEEP RECESSION and the recovery will take longer than the financial robbery in 2008.

 

She also says intervention from central banks and governments will be with us for some time, and that private-public partnerships will remain key. Financial institutions will play an important role in thinking through widespread changes to the labour market and fiscal and monetary policies, she explains.