alexa Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said: We can't rely on any spiritual, new agey, rapturish, prophecy, god know what else information or guidance. Our experience (well mine at least) is quite simple, material and straight forward. I live, I eat, I love - in the most exquisite paradise imaginable. Common sense gives us values and really, it isn't difficult to discern right from wrong. We can discuss 'truth vibrations', 'ascension' and whatever other bollocks one care to think up AFTER we have stopped the cull, ejected the parasites and reclaimed our history and knowledge. I agree, we have to stop them, but without God intervening we never will. We have to put on the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:10-18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 https://gab.com/PGTips5NZ/posts/106518549635772964 Black light shows glowing mark on injected people's arm. WTF Also another one woman scanned her arm by the vaccine and got back a barcode reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, alexa said: I agree, we have to stop them, but without God intervening we never will. We have to put on the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:10-18 And then again, it all depends on one’s beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, alexa said: I agree, we have to stop them, but without God intervening we never will. We have to put on the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:10-18 Most Christians won't even name THEM, yet want to act like Christ. Would he have cowered away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 @alexa Not a dig at you by the way, just the absolute state of modern Christians, in the West at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, alexa said: I agree, we have to stop them, but without God intervening we never will. We have to put on the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:10-18 Unfortunately (and with respect to your beliefs) God has never intervened in anything in my opinion. If he exists he is quite content to watch rather than act....if this is a terrible game, he is sat in the directors box impassively watching us trying to fathom out the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, whatthefoxhat said: Watched this again with my new 2021 convid eyes and it hasn't aged a bit ,in fact its even more prescient now than it was in 2013 i cant work out how to get a billionaire or multimillionaires to spend their money back into the economy. they have too much money, they literally cant spend it all even if they wanted to so you get a Bill Gates who decides to spend his fortune through 'medical treatments'. National economists cheer when the money flows in to their countries, politicians dont want to step on the money influx, however .... that spend has strings attached as we all know. Bill could choose any avenue to spend on ... education .. just funnel money into education for vaccine damaged children and their families.. but no .. he chooses more vaccines. billionaires can buy a yacht or a mansion but they cant buy enough clothes, houses, cars, gadgets, decorative furnishings, eat out at a local restaurant they cant tax the smeggers because they know how to avoid it, they cant recoup enough through VAT or sales tax these horders of money love their money, they love being richest , they love being the winner and nothing can convince them to spend enough of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Most Christians won't even name THEM, yet want to act like Christ. Would he have cowered away? Agree, and lots of Christians it would appear are blind to the true nature of those that lead their faith. What use is faith when it doesn't give you the ability to see the true nature of things? At the start of this pantomime I paid a visit to my local church (first time in many years) because I yearned for some vague feeling of spirituality. Upon entering I was asked to wear a mask and when I said I was exempt the reaction told me all I needed to know about organised religion. Unfortunately it closed an avenue of hope that I was looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, zArk said: i cant work out how to get a billionaire or multimillionaires to spend their money back into the economy. they have too much money, they literally cant spend it all even if they wanted to so you get a Bill Gates who decides to spend his fortune through 'medical treatments'. National economists cheer when the money flows in to their countries, politicians dont want to step on the money influx, however .... that spend has strings attached as we all know. Bill could choose any avenue to spend on ... education .. just funnel money into education for vaccine damaged children and their families.. but no .. he chooses more vaccines. billionaires can buy a yacht or a mansion but they cant buy enough clothes, houses, cars, gadgets, decorative furnishings, eat out at a local restaurant they cant tax the smeggers because they know how to avoid it, they cant recoup enough through VAT or sales tax these horders of money love their money, they love being richest , they love being the winner and nothing can convince them to spend enough of it It all appears to be a primeval power struggle, they want to be top dog, the alpha male. It's a real world version of monopoly when the one left over at the end with the most fake money is declared the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexa Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Outsider said: Unfortunately (and with respect to your beliefs) God has never intervened in anything in my opinion. If he exists he is quite content to watch rather than act....if this is a terrible game, he is sat in the directors box impassively watching us trying to fathom out the rules. For two thousand years God has been warning us of these times that are upon us but just like the deluge not many listened, to understand revelation is to be forewarned & to be prepared. God is going to intervene, with one mighty crack of thunder that will shake the earth like nothing has before it or ever will be again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawson13 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Outsider said: Unfortunately (and with respect to your beliefs) God has never intervened in anything in my opinion. If he exists he is quite content to watch rather than act....if this is a terrible game, he is sat in the directors box impassively watching us trying to fathom out the rules. I believe when a force like 'God' acts, it doesn't show itself by way of a plague of locusts, trembling earth and a loud booming voice warning us to repent etc. No, I believe that the spirit of any god works through people and they become the vehicle to express that power. We have all experienced this, however small at some point in our lives. For example, an idea pop's into your head that solves a current problem you have or a business to start, parking space just appears exactly at the right time when you turn the corner, you get a'feeling ' that today is going to be a good day, and it does turn out to be good. Etc. Mostly small but still God working through you. People need to align themselves to be able to accept feelings and inspiration. Thats why alot of mystics and ancient religions meditate, to align themselves with spirit. Now, I think the same applies to current events. Anti vaxxers just 'know' that the needle is wrong and are rejecting it. The people who are not in tune with their feelings are unfortunately buying into the crap. I hope I've explained myself and not confused anyone. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedo Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 OK so now it is 100% confirmed for me : a very close person to me in 'real life' did the magnet test on her freshly vaxxed friend, and it stuck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewoodsman Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, Outsider said: Unfortunately (and with respect to your beliefs) God has never intervened in anything in my opinion. If he exists he is quite content to watch rather than act....if this is a terrible game, he is sat in the directors box impassively watching us trying to fathom out the rules. You see, God gave man free will. He realised that man was hopeless but he still loved us and longed for us to worship him and be good. So he sent his son, himself in the flesh who we viciously murdered. That was the deal breaker, when we killed christ we inherited this world, thr age of man came into play. God would no longer interfere in mans affairs. God went away to prepare his kingdom for those who could accept this truth, that without christ's blood we are hopeless and deserve an eternity away from oit creator. He however did leave a part of himself in the form of his holy spirit to guide us and to be a connection to the one true God whom used to in days of old be more present. When man betrayed God and built the tower of Babel, ,God came personally and scattered those people. The bible explicitly says that God became the God of Israel and left the other lands to other gods or to fallen angels as it were. Israel deserted God too and on that day christ was crucified mans day began and everything since has been out doing. This is no game to God. We have no right to wonder where he is or why he does not intervene. We deserted him and crucified him in the flesh sealing our fate. Not at all preaching here. We must all find our own paths and come to terms with what we are and how despicable this world is. I know what I believe and I long for this reality to be brought to an end . It is my belief it shall be. I'm a sinner as is everyone else and I deserve hell fire but I can rejoice because through Jesus Christ my lord and saviour I am saved Not because I'm good at all but because I recognise how utterly hopeless I am and it's only with the blood of Christ and the holy spirit that I am able to refrain from all the wicked things my flesh cries out for me to do. Their is a redeemer friend and its Christ Gods only son. Man as with all else turned a simple truth into something it is not and along came religion and dogma. Yes we perversed Gods own word to us, complicated the most simple teaching so that man yet again would bicker and allow arrogance to get in the way of the fact that we suck and cannot be without sin but it's ok because Christ took it all away and that with this truth we can resist our fallen nature God bless everyone and Goodnight. In these dark hours I pray for Jesus return but I accept that nothing man can do to me can compare to what awaits those who look past that arrogance and ego and accept the simple truth that is God in the flesh Christ Jesus May the world know that I am yours. I will never be silenced. I will resist my sin to the point of blood, And I will wear my scars like badges of honor. But let my hope cry out that my God is greater than the pain of persecution. My God is greater than this world. There will never be another chance to live today for God. There will never be another name that can save us from ourselves. And so, steadfast and undeterred, I will proclaim the name of Christ to a dead and dying world. I am not ashamed! We will resist our sin to the point of blood, And we will wear our scars like badges of honor. But let our hope cry out that our God is greater than the pain of persecution. Blinded, I saw that Christ is Lord. Now, may the world see you through open eyes. God, my Father, reign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, alexa said: I agree, we have to stop them, but without God intervening we never will. We have to put on the whole armor of God. Ephesians 6:10-18 7 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said: You see, God gave man free will. He realised that man was hopeless but he still loved us and longed for us to worship him and be good. So he sent his son, himself in the flesh who we viciously murdered. That was the deal breaker, when we killed christ we inherited this world, thr age of man came into play. God would no longer interfere in mans affairs. God went away to prepare his kingdom for those who could accept this truth, that without christ's blood we are hopeless and deserve an eternity away from oit creator. He however did leave a part of himself in the form of his holy spirit to guide us and to be a connection to the one true God whom used to in days of old be more present. When man betrayed God and built the tower of Babel, ,God came personally and scattered those people. The bible explicitly says that God became the God of Israel and left the other lands to other gods or to fallen angels as it were. Israel deserted God too and on that day christ was crucified mans day began and everything since has been out doing. This is no game to God. We have no right to wonder where he is or why he does not intervene. We deserted him and crucified him in the flesh sealing our fate. Not at all preaching here. We must all find our own paths and come to terms with what we are and how despicable this world is. I know what I believe and I long for this reality to be brought to an end . It is my belief it shall be. I'm a sinner as is everyone else and I deserve hell fire but I can rejoice because through Jesus Christ my lord and saviour I am saved Not because I'm good at all but because I recognise how utterly hopeless I am and it's only with the blood of Christ and the holy spirit that I am able to refrain from all the wicked things my flesh cries out for me to do. Their is a redeemer friend and its Christ Gods only son. Man as with all else turned a simple truth into something it is not and along came religion and dogma. Yes we perversed Gods own word to us, complicated the most simple teaching so that man yet again would bicker and allow arrogance to get in the way of the fact that we suck and cannot be without sin but it's ok because Christ took it all away and that with this truth we can resist our fallen nature God bless everyone and Goodnight. In these dark hours I pray for Jesus return but I accept that nothing man can do to me can compare to what awaits those who look past that arrogance and ego and accept the simple truth that is God in the flesh Christ Jesus May the world know that I am yours. I will never be silenced. I will resist my sin to the point of blood, And I will wear my scars like badges of honor. But let my hope cry out that my God is greater than the pain of persecution. My God is greater than this world. There will never be another chance to live today for God. There will never be another name that can save us from ourselves. And so, steadfast and undeterred, I will proclaim the name of Christ to a dead and dying world. I am not ashamed! We will resist our sin to the point of blood, And we will wear our scars like badges of honor. But let our hope cry out that our God is greater than the pain of persecution. Blinded, I saw that Christ is Lord. Now, may the world see you through open eyes. God, my Father, reign I understand what you say. I pondered repentance today again and the thought that it is a real and organic experience, not just a thought or wish. "God would no longer interfere in mans affairs. God went away to prepare his kingdom for those who could accept this truth, that without christ's blood we are hopeless and deserve an eternity away from oit creator. " This is so sad from the point of view that no-one knows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, Outsider said: Unfortunately (and with respect to your beliefs) God has never intervened in anything in my opinion. If he exists he is quite content to watch rather than act....if this is a terrible game, he is sat in the directors box impassively watching us trying to fathom out the rules. Out of likes; and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, Outsider said: It all appears to be a primeval power struggle, they want to be top dog, the alpha male. It's a real world version of monopoly when the one left over at the end with the most fake money is declared the winner. Crazy ain’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, Pawson13 said: I believe when a force like 'God' acts, it doesn't show itself by way of a plague of locusts, trembling earth and a loud booming voice warning us to repent etc. No, I believe that the spirit of any god works through people and they become the vehicle to express that power. We have all experienced this, however small at some point in our lives. For example, an idea pop's into your head that solves a current problem you have or a business to start, parking space just appears exactly at the right time when you turn the corner, you get a'feeling ' that today is going to be a good day, and it does turn out to be good. Etc. Mostly small but still God working through you. People need to align themselves to be able to accept feelings and inspiration. Thats why alot of mystics and ancient religions meditate, to align themselves with spirit. Now, I think the same applies to current events. Anti vaxxers just 'know' that the needle is wrong and are rejecting it. The people who are not in tune with their feelings are unfortunately buying into the crap. I hope I've explained myself and not confused anyone. Out of likes; nicely put 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, blowonthepie said: Out of likes; nicely put Nah, really 'GOD' or the creator as I like to put it made this place. He (and don't get gender off on me) made it all. He made the intricate, interdependent complexity of everything. Sublime beyond belief. If He wants to 'shake the sheets', he will. AND I don't think our creator is worried about your parking needs. That's just luck or timing. Edited July 3, 2021 by Nobby Noboddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said: I understand what you say. I pondered repentance today again and the thought that it is a real and organic experience, not just a thought or wish. "God would no longer interfere in mans affairs. God went away to prepare his kingdom for those who could accept this truth, that without christ's blood we are hopeless and deserve an eternity away from oit creator. " This is so sad from the point of view that no-one knows this. I dont ‘know’ this at all; no sadness here. Im pleased you and the others here like you have your beliefs; I think it’s part of the human condition to have to have something to ‘believe’ in; otherwise the world would be a truly desperate place lol. Viva la differénce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said: Nah, really 'GOD' or the creator as I like to put it made this place. He (and don't get gender off on me) made it all. He made the intricate, interdependent complexity of everything. Sublime beyond belief. If He wants to 'shake the sheets', he will. AND I don't think our creator is worried about your parking needs. That's just luck or timing. Thats good for you that that is your belief Edited July 3, 2021 by blowonthepie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Noboddy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, blowonthepie said: I dont ‘know’ this at all; no sadness here. Im pleased you and the others here like you have your beliefs; I think it’s part of the human condition to have to have something to ‘believe’ in; otherwise the world would be a truly desperate place lol. Viva la differénce SERIOUSLY: 'Im pleased you and the others here like you have your beliefs; I think it’s part of the human condition to have to have something to ‘believe’ in; otherwise the world would be a truly desperate place lol." Are you a fucking AI bot? Because that does not sound human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Just now, Nobby Noboddy said: SERIOUSLY: 'Im pleased you and the others here like you have your beliefs; I think it’s part of the human condition to have to have something to ‘believe’ in; otherwise the world would be a truly desperate place lol." Are you a fucking AI bot? Because that does not sound human. Geez, sorry ; sometimes I’m not sure what I am, which leads to serious partaking of alcohol, and contemplation of the id; I’m still none the wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said: You see, God gave man free will. He realised that man was hopeless but he still loved us and longed for us to worship him and be good. So he sent his son, himself in the flesh who we viciously murdered. That was the deal breaker, when we killed christ we inherited this world, thr age of man came into play. God would no longer interfere in mans affairs. God went away to prepare his kingdom for those who could accept this truth, that without christ's blood we are hopeless and deserve an eternity away from oit creator. He however did leave a part of himself in the form of his holy spirit to guide us and to be a connection to the one true God whom used to in days of old be more present. When man betrayed God and built the tower of Babel, ,God came personally and scattered those people. The bible explicitly says that God became the God of Israel and left the other lands to other gods or to fallen angels as it were. Israel deserted God too and on that day christ was crucified mans day began and everything since has been out doing. This is no game to God. We have no right to wonder where he is or why he does not intervene. We deserted him and crucified him in the flesh sealing our fate. Not at all preaching here. We must all find our own paths and come to terms with what we are and how despicable this world is. I know what I believe and I long for this reality to be brought to an end . It is my belief it shall be. I'm a sinner as is everyone else and I deserve hell fire but I can rejoice because through Jesus Christ my lord and saviour I am saved Not because I'm good at all but because I recognise how utterly hopeless I am and it's only with the blood of Christ and the holy spirit that I am able to refrain from all the wicked things my flesh cries out for me to do. Their is a redeemer friend and its Christ Gods only son. Man as with all else turned a simple truth into something it is not and along came religion and dogma. Yes we perversed Gods own word to us, complicated the most simple teaching so that man yet again would bicker and allow arrogance to get in the way of the fact that we suck and cannot be without sin but it's ok because Christ took it all away and that with this truth we can resist our fallen nature God bless everyone and Goodnight. In these dark hours I pray for Jesus return but I accept that nothing man can do to me can compare to what awaits those who look past that arrogance and ego and accept the simple truth that is God in the flesh Christ Jesus May the world know that I am yours. I will never be silenced. I will resist my sin to the point of blood, And I will wear my scars like badges of honor. But let my hope cry out that my God is greater than the pain of persecution. My God is greater than this world. There will never be another chance to live today for God. There will never be another name that can save us from ourselves. And so, steadfast and undeterred, I will proclaim the name of Christ to a dead and dying world. I am not ashamed! We will resist our sin to the point of blood, And we will wear our scars like badges of honor. But let our hope cry out that our God is greater than the pain of persecution. Blinded, I saw that Christ is Lord. Now, may the world see you through open eyes. God, my Father, reign You may want to retract your ‘like’ of my post my friend; your interpretation of ‘god’ and mine are not alike; but all power to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 That study that showed vaccines were more harmful than covid was removed by the journal and the authors of the study have hit back. Should public health authorities scrutinize deaths attributed to COVID-19 as closely as they scrutinize deaths attributed to COVID-19 vaccines? Defenders of a controversial study on the risk-benefit ratio of COVID-19 vaccines are calling hypocrisy on a medical journal for retracting the paper a week after publishing it, following the resignations of several journal editors in protest. In a Friday retraction notice in the journal Vaccines, the editor in chief and "several" editorial board members said the paper's authors were not able to "satisfactorily" answer claims that they conflated correlation with causation. Analyzing data from the Netherlands Pharmacovigilance Centre, known as LAREB, the paper's authors estimated COVID-19 vaccines take two lives for every three they save. The country leads Europe in vaccine adverse-reaction reporting. Authors Harald Walach, Rainer Klement and Wouter Aukema challenged criticism from Eugene van Puijenbroek, who leads LAREB's scientific department, that they had misused its data. "This starts a long-overdue debate on how to gauge the safety of COVID-19 vaccines," they wrote in a statement provided to Retraction Watch Thursday. "Currently we only have association, we agree, and we never said anything else. But the same is true with fatalities as consequences of SARS-CoV2-infections [sic]," which are "rarely vetted by autopsy or second opinion" to confirm they were caused by the novel coronavirus, rather than incidental to infection. Brown University epidemiologist Andrew Bostom wasn't impressed by the journal's "baloney" explanation for the retraction, either. "The [vaccine] deaths are as causally related as C19 deaths which allow for any positive test within 30-60 days of a death from any cause to be tallied as a C19 death," he wrote in a Twitter message to Just the News. Bostom pointed to a June study, not yet peer-reviewed, of a sample of deaths in the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System reported through April. The sample was limited to people who got early vaccinations, primarily elderly or those with "significant health conditions." Researchers at the University of London and New Zealand's Massey University found that they could rule out "vaccine reaction" as a contributing factor in just 14% of deaths. "Contrary to claims that most of these reports are made by lay-people and are hence clinically unreliable, we identified health service employees as the reporter in at least 67%," they wrote Correlation versus causation is also an ongoing issue in research on the effectiveness of masks in mitigating the spread of COVID-19. Commenters immediately challenged a Thursday report in MedPage Today on a study that purported to find masks effective in stopping in-school transmission, but had no control group of mask-optional schools. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/retraction-paper-vaccine-deaths-spurs-demand-more-scrutiny-reported 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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