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Hi everyone,

 

I've followed David Icke for years and I posted on the new members forum a few weeks ago.  The thing that has really bugged me throughout this scamdemic is how the cult have managed to manipulate the global  medical and scientific communities into going along with the Covid narrative. A few doctors have spoken out but it's a tiny number considering that there are literally millions of doctors, scientists and other health professionals in the world.

 

I can understand how a small number of people could be silenced but the sheer scale of this Covid scam is enormous.  David always says that if we don't acquiesce to the cult's manipulation then it's game over for them.

Surely then if the medical and scientific communities came out en masse and affirmed that there isn't a virus then this hoax would be exposed for what it is and would render the cult powerless.

 

David says that the medics are cowed into submission and are silenced because they fear the reprisals that would ruin their careers. How would that  work though if millions stood up and spoke out about the scam, that threat would be pointless.

 

Can anybody shed any light on this, maybe I've missed something but I can't get my head around the logistics of the whole thing.

 

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7 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

Judaism or more correctly Talmudism is the One World Religion, planned by the New World

Order satanists.

 

I can believe this. These Zionists are the most evil minded, corrupt Satanists on earth.

I haven't read it, but the Talmud is by all accounts one of the most disgusting book anyone could ever read.

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3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

"Stamp hard on certain 'natural' beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off. "

 

- Andrew Marr

 

What a charming fella. /s

Indeed, what a charmer.

 

And this after his arse-licking question to "Sir Peter" who was clearly not privy to any factual info :

 

'I'd been double jabbed earlier in the spring and felt, if not king of the world, at least almost entirely immune. And yet I got it, was I just unlucky?'

Sir Peter replied: 'I think you were. What we know with the vaccines is that they are actually remarkably effective at preventing hospitalisations and deaths. 

They are less effective at preventing infection. So although you were sick you were not hospitalised and there wasn't' any fatality and that is probably because of the vaccination.

 

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3 hours ago, elongated1 said:

 

I think it's better to start showing funeral leaflet and let her/him choose what they prefer so that it might sink in what they are in for. Also backing up with all the younger people who died on the day, 2 days after vaccination. You know this is a strong possibility.

 

As for jab for job, you should be ok till Jan 2023 on the base that this is a clinical trial. Hope you have printed out the template letter from powertothepeople. We will have to review what's what nearer to Jan 2023 but at least we have about 1.5 year to get our shits together. Prepare.

 

 

 

if he's already had the vaccine i dont see what good that would do, will probably turn anybody you say that too against you especially if you do it in a self righteous gloating sort of way.  probably best to let sleeping dogs lie imho.

 

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7 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

It's Gary Wayne, talking about why & how they're destroying Christianity & planning the 1WO linked to Polytheistic religion.

 

I've got one of his books, he's an excellent writer. I can never put his books down. :classic_biggrin:

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7 hours ago, Bullion said:

Will we (who are left) have to convert to it…. I don’t want to wear a small box on my head, nor do I want to wear a wig in public that looks like my own hair 😂

 

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2 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Agreed, that fourth paragraph is very telling and falls just short of saying what the plan is for the 'hive mind' that DI mentions.

 

I've also just listened to his resignation speech, in which he manages to drop in the WEF term 'build back better'. Nice little nod to his handlers. What a good boy.

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1 hour ago, Truth Warrior said:

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've followed David Icke for years and I posted on the new members forum a few weeks ago.  The thing that has really bugged me throughout this scamdemic is how the cult have managed to manipulate the global  medical and scientific communities into going along with the Covid narrative. A few doctors have spoken out but it's a tiny number considering that there are literally millions of doctors, scientists and other health professionals in the world.

 

I can understand how a small number of people could be silenced but the sheer scale of this Covid scam is enormous.  David always says that if we don't acquiesce to the cult's manipulation then it's game over for them.

Surely then if the medical and scientific communities came out en masse and affirmed that there isn't a virus then this hoax would be exposed for what it is and would render the cult powerless.

 

David says that the medics are cowed into submission and are silenced because they fear the reprisals that would ruin their careers. How would that  work though if millions stood up and spoke out about the scam, that threat would be pointless.

 

Can anybody shed any light on this, maybe I've missed something but I can't get my head around the logistics of the whole thing.

 

they value their job more and/or they have received some kind of funding in the past which kill gates is cashing out

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1 hour ago, Truth Warrior said:

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've followed David Icke for years and I posted on the new members forum a few weeks ago.  The thing that has really bugged me throughout this scamdemic is how the cult have managed to manipulate the global  medical and scientific communities into going along with the Covid narrative. A few doctors have spoken out but it's a tiny number considering that there are literally millions of doctors, scientists and other health professionals in the world.

 

I can understand how a small number of people could be silenced but the sheer scale of this Covid scam is enormous.  David always says that if we don't acquiesce to the cult's manipulation then it's game over for them.

Surely then if the medical and scientific communities came out en masse and affirmed that there isn't a virus then this hoax would be exposed for what it is and would render the cult powerless.

 

David says that the medics are cowed into submission and are silenced because they fear the reprisals that would ruin their careers. How would that  work though if millions stood up and spoke out about the scam, that threat would be pointless.

 

Can anybody shed any light on this, maybe I've missed something but I can't get my head around the logistics of the whole thing.

 

 

I think the individual's fear of drastic repercussions is enough. To attempt to garner support or even the opinion of others in the profession means risking exposing your own dissent.

 

Money is no object at the moment because it's going out of fashion so to speak, so palms will have been greased.

 

I think there have been plenty in the medical field for a good while who have been placed in their positions because they are types who don't genuinely give a stuff about anyone but themselves, and I've read of a few whistle blowers saying the field is rife with bullying at the best of times.

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5 hours ago, Jackunjill said:

This was posted in the we the people telegram group.
Long post but some interesting sections.
 

I wasn’t aware of hancocks takeaway habit.

 

 

MATT HANCOCK IS NOT HAVING AN AFFAIR

 

Or, let me rephrase that - if he is, it's not with an age-appropriate adult female. At the highest levels of politics such as he inhabits, people are controlled by their blackmailability, and a married man having a bit on the side at the office is simply not scandalous enough these days as material with which to control someone.

 

Lest we all forget, Hancock was exposed as having spent £50,000 of tax-payers' money on nine "takeaways" from a tiny and obscure East London restaurant, which had a password-protected secret menu, with "pizza" as the starring item.

 

The 'office affair' story is clearly completely staged. I watched the "HandsFaceA*se" video, and it looks utterly theatrical and ridiculous - it is quite clear to me that they are acting. It is just far too cliched an interpretation of the 'secret office affair' to be real - rendezvousing in an empty workroom for a clandestine embrace (where there just so happens to be CCTV that they have both conveniently forgotten about). Wealthy, well-connected players like Hancock have discreet, out-of-town plush flats for that sort of thing, they don't need to sneak off for a snog in the stationary cupboard.

 

Plus. if the health secretary really was having an affair in the middle of a national pandemic, the press would just be slapped with a D-notice and forbidden from reporting on it, it being paramount the public retain confidence in the government at such a crucial time, threat to national security, etc. etc.

 

The reason Hancock's wife and the aide's husband seem so singularly unbothered about this episode, is because this has all been scripted and set up well in advance, and they're fully in the know and all for it - just like any supportive stage spouse would be. That in addition to the fact that, at that level, people don't get married because they love or even particularly like each other - it's all far more strategic and about money, power, connections, etc. - the "old-fashioned" reasons.

 

So, why has Hancock faked an affair, you may ask? It's because we've moved into the next stage of the overlords' agenda, which is revealing all national governments and major institutions (such as the Monarchy) as fraudulent and corrupt to their core, so they can be swept aside with full public approval, in preparation for the one world government.

 

We will systematically see all the major players behind the plague pantomime be revealed as completely corrupt: as philanderers, charlatans, and liars. We've already seen the fall of Neil Fergusson and Dominic Cummings, now it's Matt Hancock's turn, and the others will follow like dominoes. Plus, we're going to see new facts uncovered about Princess Diana's death, too, which has suddenly hit the headlines again, where the Royals will be indicted and charged with murder, the final blow for that rapidly toppling house of cards (I note Prince William is just about the only Royal who hasn't been viciously smeared in the press lately, and it has been suggested in the past he is the overlords' choice for one-world government leader).

 

Of course, the final push to get everyone in favour of a one-world government is an extreme external threat against which all the world's countries must unite to defeat, so cue fake holographic alien invasion.

 

It's going to be an interesting next few months..

 

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6 hours ago, Jackunjill said:

This was posted in the we the people telegram group.
Long post but some interesting sections.
 

I wasn’t aware of hancocks takeaway habit.

 

 

MATT HANCOCK IS NOT HAVING AN AFFAIR

 

Or, let me rephrase that - if he is, it's not with an age-appropriate adult female. At the highest levels of politics such as he inhabits, people are controlled by their blackmailability, and a married man having a bit on the side at the office is simply not scandalous enough these days as material with which to control someone.

 

Lest we all forget, Hancock was exposed as having spent £50,000 of tax-payers' money on nine "takeaways" from a tiny and obscure East London restaurant, which had a password-protected secret menu, with "pizza" as the starring item.

 

The 'office affair' story is clearly completely staged. I watched the "HandsFaceA*se" video, and it looks utterly theatrical and ridiculous - it is quite clear to me that they are acting. It is just far too cliched an interpretation of the 'secret office affair' to be real - rendezvousing in an empty workroom for a clandestine embrace (where there just so happens to be CCTV that they have both conveniently forgotten about). Wealthy, well-connected players like Hancock have discreet, out-of-town plush flats for that sort of thing, they don't need to sneak off for a snog in the stationary cupboard.

 

Plus. if the health secretary really was having an affair in the middle of a national pandemic, the press would just be slapped with a D-notice and forbidden from reporting on it, it being paramount the public retain confidence in the government at such a crucial time, threat to national security, etc. etc.

 

The reason Hancock's wife and the aide's husband seem so singularly unbothered about this episode, is because this has all been scripted and set up well in advance, and they're fully in the know and all for it - just like any supportive stage spouse would be. That in addition to the fact that, at that level, people don't get married because they love or even particularly like each other - it's all far more strategic and about money, power, connections, etc. - the "old-fashioned" reasons.

 

So, why has Hancock faked an affair, you may ask? It's because we've moved into the next stage of the overlords' agenda, which is revealing all national governments and major institutions (such as the Monarchy) as fraudulent and corrupt to their core, so they can be swept aside with full public approval, in preparation for the one world government.

 

We will systematically see all the major players behind the plague pantomime be revealed as completely corrupt: as philanderers, charlatans, and liars. We've already seen the fall of Neil Fergusson and Dominic Cummings, now it's Matt Hancock's turn, and the others will follow like dominoes. Plus, we're going to see new facts uncovered about Princess Diana's death, too, which has suddenly hit the headlines again, where the Royals will be indicted and charged with murder, the final blow for that rapidly toppling house of cards (I note Prince William is just about the only Royal who hasn't been viciously smeared in the press lately, and it has been suggested in the past he is the overlords' choice for one-world government leader).

 

Of course, the final push to get everyone in favour of a one-world government is an extreme external threat against which all the world's countries must unite to defeat, so cue fake holographic alien invasion.

 

It's going to be an interesting next few months..

 

 

Can you share a link to the telegram group? I've seen it mentioned before but can't seem to find out.

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39 minutes ago, Noctua said:

 

 

I've also just listened to his resignation speech, in which he manages to drop in the WEF term 'build back better'. Nice little nod to his handlers. What a good boy.

 

 

seems he's done implementing wef's technocratic version of the nhs.  probably not good for any patients that use it.

 

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1 hour ago, Truth Warrior said:

A few doctors have spoken out but it's a tiny number considering that there are literally millions of doctors, scientists and other health professionals in the world.

 

It is easy to under-estimate the effect of censorship. YouTube, for example, is scrubbed daily of anything that opposes the WHO. In fact, it now appears that YouTube and the WHO are the same entity; the WHO's logo is all over the YouTube website, branded across almost every video related to the hoax.

 

It is worth considering, philosophically whether a planet having a centralized 'World Health Organization' is actually a symptom of that planet being profoundly sick: No healthy planetary community would centralize its government in such a way. Centralized systems are inherently, architecturally, vulnerable to exploit, and should not exist in a civilized world.

 

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Surely then if the medical and scientific communities came out en masse and affirmed that there isn't a virus then this hoax would be exposed for what it is and would render the cult powerless.

 

Many have come out en-masse, but are censored. The cult / corporate 'elite' simply need to control the media, and use this media to exclude all other voices apart from the WHO.

 

Incidentally the WHO is primarily funded by Bill Gates. 

Look into the Gates Epstein connection to understand what the WHO represents.

 

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How would that  work though if millions stood up and spoke out about the scam, that threat would be pointless.

 

They have spoken out. However, these outspoken doctors don't own TV stations or entrenched trans-global video-streaming and social-media platforms. They are therefore excluded from view.

 

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Can anybody shed any light on this, maybe I've missed something but I can't get my head around the logistics of the whole thing.

 

 

To summarize: the thousands of doctors, virologists and biochemists who have spoken out are silenced. 

 

Kerry Mullis, who invented the PCR, said Dr Fauci is "a fraud" and that the PCR cannot reliably detect viruses. This is the test being used by the 'maskzies'. On this grounds alone, the 'pandemic' is clearly fake.

 

At this stage, it has to be asked: Do we need more doctors speaking out; or do we need more people listening?

 

For me, the real question is not: "Why are doctors silent?" But instead, "Why is the world so deaf?"

 

I fear the answer to this is: Many people would prefer to play out the masquerade of "let's pretend there's a deadly virus", rather than face the actual virus plaguing our planet: The widespread sexual abuse of children by our 'powerful elite'.

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4 hours ago, elongated1 said:

 

I think it's better to start showing funeral leaflet and let her/him choose what they prefer so that it might sink in what they are in for. Also backing up with all the younger people who died on the day, 2 days after vaccination. You know this is a strong possibility.

 

As for jab for job, you should be ok till Jan 2023 on the base that this is a clinical trial. Hope you have printed out the template letter from powertothepeople. We will have to review what's what nearer to Jan 2023 but at least we have about 1.5 year to get our shits together. Prepare.

 

Everybody should check that out. I've downloaded every template for every likely scenario as we've gone along.

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3 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

The Guardian now admitting that the majority of people now dying of Covid had had both Vaccines.

 

But somehow that's all perfectly normal...

 

Can anyone follow the logic in this article? I don't want to apply myself too much to it I may never be sane again....

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/why-most-people-who-now-die-with-covid-have-been-vaccinated

Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated

 
 

Don’t think of this as a bad sign, it’s exactly what’s expected from an effective but imperfect jab

 

An 18-year-old boy is vaccinated at Tottenham Hotspur’s stadium in London. An 18-year-old boy is vaccinated at Tottenham Hotspur’s stadium in London. Photograph: Will Edwards/AFP/Getty Images

Sun 27 Jun 2021 08.00 BST

 

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AMailOnline headline on 13 June read: “Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations.” In Public Health England’s technical briefing on 25 June, that figure had risen to 43% (50 of 117), with the majority (60%) having received at least one dose.

It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine, a risk profile that varies hugely by age and the way the vaccines have been rolled out.

 

Consider the hypothetical world where absolutely everyone had received a less than perfect vaccine. Although the death rate would be low, everyone who died would have been fully vaccinated.

 

The vaccines are not perfect. PHE estimates two-dose effectiveness against hospital admission with the Delta infections at around 94%. We can perhaps assume there is at least 95% protection against Covid-19 death, which means the lethal risk is reduced to less than a twentieth of its usual value.

 

But the risk of dying from Covid-19 is extraordinarily dependent on age: it halves for each six to seven year age gap. This means that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated essentially takes on the risk of an unvaccinated person of around 50 – much lower, but still not nothing, and so we can expect some deaths.

The PHE report also reveals that nearly a third of deaths from the Delta variant are of unvaccinated people over 50, which may be surprising given high vaccine coverage; for example, OpenSAFELY estimates more than 93% among the 65-69s. But there are lower rates in deprived areas and for some ethnicities and communities with limited coverage will continue to experience more than their fair share of loss.

 

Coverage and effectiveness are important numbers for assessing vaccination programmes. It is better to look at cool analysis by analysts, rather than hot takes on social and other media.

 

  • David Spiegelhalter is chair of the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication at Cambridge. Anthony Masters is statistical ambassador for the Royal Statistical Society

 

 

The latest Hugo Talks video covers this article where he points out that even Public Health England documents paint a different picture to that being presented by the Guardian.

 

Although the Guardian points out that more vaccinated people are dying because most people in the UK have been jabbed, PHE's figures prove that, when comparisons are made between death rates of those supposedly infected with the "Delta variant" broken down between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, those who haven't been jabbed fare much better.

 

https://hugotalks.com/2021/06/27/double-jabbed-more-likely-to-die-msm-deception-hugo-talks-lockdown/

 

Table 4 of the latest technical briefing of 'SARS-CoV-2 Variants of Concern and Variants Under Investigation in England' dated 25th June 2021 shows the statistics of A&E admissions and deaths due to the "Delta variant". Ths table is broken down by age group and vaccination status and confirms the following.

  • A total of 92,029 Delta variant cases. Of those, 53,822 were from unvaccinated people whereas 27,192 were vaccinated (6,242 within 21 days of their 1st dose; 13,715 more then 21 days following their 1st dose and; 7,235 having received both doses). I assume that, with the remaining "unlinked" cases (11,015), it is not known whether or not they had been injected.
  • 117 people died having had a positive test for the "Delta variant" within the 28 days prior to their death.
  • Of the 53,822 unvaccinated people, 44 died (0.08%).
  • Of the 27,192 vaccinated people, 70 people died (0.26%). This is more than 3 times that of the unvaccinated.
  • Of the 70 vaccinated people that died, 50 had received both doses. This was out of 7,235 cases (0.69%) and is almost 9 times that of the unvaccinated.

This is surely clear evidence that the vaccines are not protecting recipients from the so-called deadly virus and its "variants". Although more unvaccinated people are supposedly infected, their survival rates are vastly improved by not having been injected.

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/996740/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf

 

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2 hours ago, Truth Warrior said:

 

Hi everyone,

 

David always says that if we don't acquiesce to the cult's manipulation then it's game over for them.

 

Hi, I'm also a newbie here, wishing you lots of success and value adding in this fight against sick liars. 

 

I think that we should meditate on this solution of David. What exactly does it mean, and how will it impact victory against these people? 

 

What does it mean to stop acquiesing exactly? Is it passive resistance or active? Or both? How will this exactly cause them to surrender all their weapons, powers, knowledge, richness, properties, toys, slaves, facilities, organizations, resources, etc.? How will their empire suddenly collapse? I wish that David would go more into this, because that's the most important part. Also how would one make sure that not other satanics take over the power vacuum, even if it works? Anyway, we know that realistically speaking, people can always be manipulated through sex, drugs, money, threats and promises, as well as a million other types of deception. So it won't happen that the whole world suddenly does something in concert against the evil people. 

 

Maybe the is a thread on this topic already open somewhere, talking about this point in particular? Anyway, good luck fighting for the truth. 

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10 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

This looks real to me, but if you know how to make a scanner do tricks, I'm sure you'll speak up.

 

Well she could easily have something under her shirt that scanner is picking up?

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35 minutes ago, Weedo said:

What does it mean to stop acquiesing exactly? Is it passive resistance or active? Or both? How will this exactly cause them to surrender all their weapons, powers, knowledge, richness, properties, toys, slaves, facilities, organizations, resources, etc.? How will their empire suddenly collapse?

 

Good questions. I intend to write a dedicated post on this topic soon, but for now, here are some ideas on how to stop acquiesing:

 

1. Stop visiting any shops that require you to wear the uniform of oppression. There are many wholesalers online who will sell you much better fruit, vegetables, and other food, and deliver it to your home. It's cheaper and potentially more efficient to do this anyway (no open-front freezers, lighting, heat, and staff costs like in a supermarket.) 

 

Summary: Defund all retail outlets that are violating the nuremberg code by forcing a medical intervention on you (masks).

 

2. Stop using Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram. This is just a short list for starters, but these companies are State surveillance networks. They harvest data which is then used to build an evolving psychological-profile of humanity's reactions to the ongoing psyop (psychological operation).

 

Summary: These major tech platforms form a vital part of the 'stimulus-response-iterate-repeat' feedback-loops which the State is using to control you and your communities. Shut their psychological data-feeds off. Quit them now.

 

3. Replace your 'smartphone' with an old phone from the early 2000s. Your smartphone is a contact-tracing and surveillance-device masquerading as a phone. Its primary purpose is to spy on you. The State is able to eavesdrop on all conversations you have within range of your smartphone. This is not paranoia. Look into chip-on-chip 'management engines' (see point 4).

 

Summary: All smartphones are backdoored. These devices are used to gather intelligence by the State. Even if you think you are uninteresting to the State, your metadata still feeds into their control-grid, and they use this data to guage humanity's collective reactions to their ongoing fear-campaigns. They use this data to iterate the effectiveness of subsequent terror campaigns. Use a pre-smartphone phone, without GPS.

 

4. Use a VPN (virtual private network), and do not connect any computer equipment manufactured after 2005 to the internet. Almost all computers manufactured after 2005 contain a 'managment engine', which is a chip-on-chip surveillance engine which has access to everything on your computer and can relay it to the State. 

 

Summary: All post-2005 consumer computers are backdoored by the State. Look into the horrors of the Intel Management Engine (ME) and the AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP). If you were wondering how they have managed to manipulate human consciousness so easily, now you know: we are Pavlov's Dogs to them. They ring the bells through Facebook and the mainstream media and then they watch our reactions through parsing data from the ME and PSP engines that are hidden on most consumer hardware. Get an older computer, and a VPN. The old hardware works fine with Linux.

 

5. Stop paying taxes. It is ethically corrupt to fund your own ongoing imprisonment. This can be done simply on religious grounds. Almost all major religions forbid killing another human. Also, it is illegal to fund terrorist groups under international law. The State is a terrorist organization which uses violence and the threat of violence to achieve political aims - this is the precise dictionary definition of terrorism.

 

Summary: Defund your jailers; stop paying the State to oppress you.

 

These are just a few ideas; I'm sure others here have more.

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On 6/25/2021 at 7:45 PM, Fluke said:

So the NHS are still texting me through the blocker I can still see them. Pretty much harrassment at this point. Wonder if it's worth ringing the number given and saying it's making me distressed? I don't want to be put on some list. 

Harrass them too in a very discrete and annoying way but it 'won't even scratch Their surfice' i imagine. 

I believe the only solution will be for you to get a non smart phone, an older phone and change number. 

If you are afraid of ''being put on a list'' as a result of you rightfully speaking your mind, then whats the point of anything? Keep your true self and primal roots on top! 

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2 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

That something would need to be an identification chip, wouldn't it?

 

Most likely.

In that video they use animal microchip reader, they're obviously recording it in a veterinarian clinic and they have easy access to animal microchips... all you need is a few bored people and you get a prank.

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2 minutes ago, metak88 said:

 

Most likely.

In that video they use animal microchip reader, they're obviously recording it in a veterinarian clinic and they have easy access to animal microchips... all you need is a few bored people and you get a prank.

 

That might be right, but my understanding was that the pet chips cost a few bob & come in syringes if fluid, ready to inject. You still might be right though.

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