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6 minutes ago, Doc said:

I'm feeling like you too Zig. The more I think about the complexity of their plan and the sheer amount of years they have spent poisoning and brainwashing us the more I feel we are fu*ked. I've been awake to the real state of the world for 20 years, half my life. I've been called a 'crackpot' and worse by some of my closest friends (they're not friends anymore). I've been told to seek psychological help. I've spent many years angry that people cannot see what I seem to be able to. I don't get angry anymore but I do feel very despondent and sad for my children who are way too young to be exposed to the horror unfolding before them. I can't see a way out of this at the moment but I will do everything I can to protect my wife (she knows what's going on) and kids from these parasites. 

 

The sheep do not make decisions based on information they follow orders 

 

How do we get a private in the army to defy an order from a superior how do we get a dog to disobey it's master and do what we want instead 

how do we get a religious person to stop believing in god  

The level of programming we are all subjected to starts from birth all through the education system

we are raised to be non questioning obedient followers 

 

some of us learn a mistrust for authority through experience and learn to question it but we are a minority

the majority worship one kind of authority or another if its not a god then its a government 

 

How do we make them independent thinkers, how do we give them courage to break free from their masters?

They would need to be sent back to school to learn "how to think critically" it would take years of deprogramming to

reverse the years of government programming, it's a very long task .. do we have time?

 

they are like a stampede of elephants get in their way and they will kill us

 

if we can steer them in the right direction we can aim them at the enemy

unfortunately this is how sheep have been harnessed  used and manipulated weaponized and aimed at us

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I know we are telling that we are awake and out of the matrix and so on but what if we are still in it only in a different one? We think we know but we know nothing at all. Who is telling us that we are awake? Sure the brainwashed people are looking strange to us. Why can't they see it right. It must be so obvious. For them we look crazy as well. The anti Covid protests are also part of this devide and rule. 

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37 minutes ago, Rolandson said:

The anti Covid protests are also part of this devide and rule. 

 

Exactly. Even the lazy media just report these protests as being 'anti-mask', though there is far more to them than simply protesting 'against masks'.

 

Anti-mask, pro-mask.

 

Pro-vaccine, "anti-vaxxer"

 

"Leaver", "Remainer"

 

Just more 'labels' to be applied to people, so they can turn on each other.

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Coronavirus conspiracy theorists clash with police at anti-lockdown protest

Hundreds of protesters claiming that COVID-19 was a hoax and organising under an anti-vaccination banner attended the rally.

Conspiracy theorists have clashed with police in central London during a protest against coronavirus lockdown measures.

Hundreds of demonstrators attended the rally in Trafalgar Square, some of whom became involved in "outbreaks of violence towards officers", the Metropolitan Police said.

 

Dozens of officers - including some on horseback - attempted to break up the demonstration, but they were resisted by ranks of protesters who formed human blockades.

 

 

There was loud cheering and chanting as some protesters pushed back the police, according to the Press Association news agency.

In a statement, Scotland Yard said that despite officers attempting to "explain, engage and encourage" the protesters to leave the rally, many remained "putting themselves and others at risk".

 

As a result, police said they would be taking "enforcement action to disperse those who remain in the area" - warning that those who remained were posing a risk to themselves and others and could be arrested.

 

 

The protest comes as a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic appears to be gaining pace, with the UK reporting more than 4,000 new daily cases on Friday - the highest figure since 8 May.

Local lockdown measures are being introduced in the North West, Midlands and West Yorkshire, and Prime Minister Boris Johnson has admitted that national guidance may have to go beyond the current "rule of six".

Saturday's demonstration meant traffic around Trafalgar Square was halted, and one protester was seen apparently spitting through the open window of a taxi, with the driver beeping their horn in frustration.

Those organising the rally sold T-shirts featuring 5G conspiracy theories and advocating the legalisation of cannabis.

 

Banners carried by others in attendance described the COVID-19 pandemic as a hoax, advocated against people wearing masks, and accused the government of concealing the truth.

One of the images created to advertise the "Resist And Act For Freedom" rally showed a vaccine bottle with a call for people to "come together, resist and act".

 

Among the scientifically impossible conspiracy theories circulating regarding COVID-19 is one that alleges it is a completely fabricated virus and that the symptoms are in fact the result of 5G telecommunications mast signals.

Some conspiracy theorists believe that the vaccine is a secret plot by the "elites" to implant microchips inside of the population.

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4 minutes ago, Number6 said:

Here we go Sky News put a article out about the protest going on today, making the protest look bad,  full of nutters et-cetera. No surprise really it was to be expected:

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-conspiracy-theorists-clash-with-police-at-anti-lockdown-protest-12076069

 

FFS. They just have to emphasize the 5G and microchips bit as if the surveillance state doesn't have other intrusive tech up its sleeve.

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

FFS. They just have to emphasize the 5G and microchips bit as if the surveillance state doesn't have other intrusive tech up its sleeve.

 

Yeah, all it takes is to look up the bleedin scientific papers with all the research to back it up but no, just put 5G and microchips in the same sentence on msm and all of us reading about this stuff, are the lunatics, lol. 

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3 minutes ago, Number6 said:

 

Yeah, all it takes is to look up the bleedin scientific papers with all the research to back it up but no, just put 5G and microchips in the same sentence on msm and all of us reading about this stuff, are the lunatics, lol. 

 

Yep, their defense will be that we're not chipping people yet, but we're totally going to monitor citizens by other means. Biometrics (that includes behavioral), geofencing and tracking apps are totally fine apparently.

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30 minutes ago, Number6 said:

Here we go Sky News put a article out about the protest going on today, making the protest look bad,  full of nutters et-cetera. No surprise really it was to be expected:

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-conspiracy-theorists-clash-with-police-at-anti-lockdown-protest-12076069

 

Same with the Daily Fail. I won't quote the whole article but it states that "conspiracy theorist" protestors, who outnumbered and pushed back police, were seen throwing bottles, spitting at taxi drivers and one had a large dog which escaped and ran around. They appear to be making attempts to discredit speakers such as Kate Shemirani, "a suspended nurse", and Dolores Cahill who was "forced to resign from an EU scientific committee in June over claims she made about the pandemic".

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8750505/Anti-mask-mayhem-Trafalgar-Square-Conspiracy-theorists-clash-police.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490

Anti-mask mayhem in Trafalgar Square: Conspiracy theorists clash with police as hundreds rail against Covid restrictions in central London protest

  • Hundreds of anti-lockdown protesters clashed with Metropolitan Police at a mass rally at Nelson's column
  • Army of police moved in on angry demonstrators defying Boris Johnson's coronavirus restrictions today
  • Protesters carried placards warning 'this is now tyranny' and 'plandemic' while others called Covid-19 a 'hoax'
  • Outnumbered officers were pushed back by the huge Resist And Act For Freedom Rally in central London 

But thankfully the comments are encouraging and overwhelmingly supportive. Among the top-rated are:

 

The virus response was lock down, "Two weeks to stop the spread." How many months has it been now with no end in sight? We can't have these measures indefinitely. It punishes the healthy. It's unhealthy to breathe hot C02 for long periods of time and to social distance. Our "public servants" are now our masters. It's all wrong.

 

Hooray - at last, the fight back. Wish I'd been there.

 

Its not a theory when you have data to back it up CONSPIRACY THEORISTS is Big Pharma doublespeak.

 

Good for them

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56 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Exactly. Even the lazy media just report these protests as being 'anti-mask', though there is far more to them than simply protesting 'against masks'.

 

Anti-mask, pro-mask.

 

Pro-vaccine, "anti-vaxxer"

 

"Leaver", "Remainer"

 

Just more 'labels' to be applied to people, so they can turn on each other.

And both sider think they are right. We don't need any protests if we just don't give a shit what the politicians staying. Give them no attention. We need to stop watching news. Maybe it is good when you don't know what is going on in the world right now. 

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55 minutes ago, Number6 said:

Conspiracy theorists have clashed with police in central London during a protest against coronavirus lockdown measures.

Hundreds of demonstrators attended the rally in Trafalgar Square, some of whom became involved in "outbreaks of violence towards officers", the Metropolitan Police said.

 

can people stop fighting against the police. they are not the orchestrators of all this. they are not implementing this nonsense

they are not the enemy

 

confrontation with the cops is sooooooooo old

n.b how i view these demos just gets confirmation with these stories. they are partly designed to provoke police action. then its all SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Number6 said:

Among the scientifically impossible conspiracy theories circulating regarding COVID-19 is one that alleges it is a completely fabricated virus and that the symptoms are in fact the result of 5G telecommunications mast signals.

Some conspiracy theorists believe that the vaccine is a secret plot by the "elites" to implant microchips inside of the population.

 

Wow, Sky News really going to town there with their 'narrative enforcement'.

 

So it is now "scientifically impossible" to fabricate a virus and manufacture a whole 'pandemic'? Despite all the 'rogue scientists' who have explained exactly how it has been done?

 

And "Event 201" anyone?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

can people stop fighting against the police. they are not the orchestrators of all this. they are not implementing this nonsense

they are not the enemy

 

confrontation with the cops is sooooooooo old

n.b how i view these demos just gets confirmation with these stories. they are partly designed to provoke police action. then its all SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!

 

 

 

I agree completely. By all means please protest, but choose your enemy wisely. The police are NOT the enemy, certainly not the 'boots on the ground' as seen in the above videos, their only fault is that they are 'following orders' from above. It is those 'above' who are the enemy.

 

I am concerned that these protests could be being infiltrated by agitators, which is designed to provoke a reaction against the police, which will then be in turn used against us in order to advance the 'police state agenda'.

 

And the sad thing is that the majority of brain-washed public will see news reports of 'angry clashes' at 'anti-mask protest' and will be demanding that 'something is done' just to keep them 'safe'. Classic "problem-reaction-solution".

 

At this rate, people will be begging to be put under even stricter lockdown conditions, and demanding that armed soldiers patrol the streets to stop these 'crazy lunatics' from protesting.

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Hmmm, certainly looked as though a few attendees had a calendar malfunction.  77th brigade?  Disproportionate plod presence, deliberate or accidental?

 

I posted the above earlier, in the Chat thread on the demo.

 

9 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I agree completely. By all means please protest, but choose your enemy wisely. The police are NOT the enemy, certainly not the 'boots on the ground' as seen in the above videos, their only fault is that they are 'following orders' from above. It is those 'above' who are the enemy.

 

I am concerned that these protests could be being infiltrated by agitators, which is designed to provoke a reaction against the police, which will then be in turn used against us in order to advance the 'police state agenda'.

 

And the sad thing is that the majority of brain-washed public will see news reports of 'angry clashes' at 'anti-mask protest' and will be demanding that 'something is done' just to keep them 'safe'. Classic "problem-reaction-solution".

 

At this rate, people will be begging to be put under even stricter lockdown conditions, and demanding that armed soldiers patrol the streets to stop these 'crazy lunatics' from protesting.

 

@Grumpy Owl this is worrying.  It will put a stop to our right to peaceful protest and also what the implications will be for next week's rally.  Doesn't help at all.

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5 hours ago, Captain Falcon said:

 

It's a horrible situation. They are chipping away at us, but something tells me they're not going to like what they find when they've finished. With each tap of the chisel they're revealing a defiant, fearless man filled with love for God, Mankind, and Freedom. They're busy beavering away at their own demise. They're pitiful and weak. 

 

It might get ugly, these kind of things always seem to end up that way, but I don't obey evil, and I'll resist those bastards right to the end. We'll win this, we just need to stand firm and do what's right, for ourselves, for each other, and for future generations.

 

 

You spoke the words from my heart.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, CyprusAvenue said:

 

I posted the above earlier, in the Chat thread on the demo.

 

 

@Grumpy Owl this is worrying.  It will put a stop to our right to peaceful protest and also what the implications will be for next week's rally.  Doesn't help at all.

 

Yeah I was watching the stream earlier, from what I saw was that there was a speaker on the platform having a right rant about pizzagate and shouting about paedos watching paedo porn in London. Then a guy was really going for it about 5G, (it was calm upto that point) then he paused and said that the police were coming and moving towards the platform he was on. He asked the crowd to peacefully create a barrier and block the advancing police, at that point the police presence got worse and more came you could hear lots of sirens and their favourite helicopter. 

 

There was a protestor kicking off at the police trying to assault them at one point (perhaps a agitator) and a lady tried to calm him down and said something along the lines of 'can you stop please, it will make us look bad'. From what I was watching it definitely felt to me that the overkill of police presence and pressure caused an increase in animosity and agitated some of the protesters  no surprise there. Sly News Must love it. 

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