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2 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

Please get the context right, if you know of the concept.

 

No more; if you wish to have the last word, by all means do so; good day.

 

 

 

Well I will have the last word in that case. There is no difference whatsoever in the context. It's what you said while busily slagging off the normies.

 

You may not have intended it to come across like that, and I do understand anger to be honest, because if everyone had the same awareness as we do, the sheer numbers would be sufficient deterrent to our adversaries. 

 

I have not been jumping on you. I agree with much of what you say. 

 

It's just that I love my daughter infinitely, and my brother and my mum, and they are all clever, kind hearted, hard working, excellent people, who for reasons I can't comprehend, and despite my my best attempts to convince them otherwise,  have been jabbed.

 

I am heartbroken and worried sick (literally) about their future.

 

So when I hear someone referring to them as lazy, ignorant twats, who are going to get what they deserve, I will most definitely react, every time. 

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Well, where to begin... I went into a shoe store this week. Was about 3 metres inside when the women at the checkout said " You need a mask"

I replied " No I dont need one - health issue"

She " Well you do because this is a private business and we make the rules"

Me" You are serving the public not the private I presume"?

She " Thats our policy - you can shop online"

Me " Thats discrimination, I will make a formal complaint"  I leave.

 

Me: ( I call the head office of the business and they say they will get management to call me back i  regard to my discrimination complaint)

 

TODAY - Phone rings

 

He: "I am the district manager - can you tell me about the incident in our store?"

Me: ... (I gave  him the details and said that the company was in fact discriminating against non mask wearers and therefore discriminating against any and all reasons and disabilities surrounding the reason for not wearing a mask. I pointed out that even the government, albeit in a rogue state, has  stated that there are those who are not required to wear a mask. He agreed... But then said that as a private company they can make their own policy.)

 

Me: " That's all well and good if you are serving a private members club with all in agreement, but you are a shoe store serving and relying on the public for your income"

 

He: " Yes you are right, but our staff were complaining that they needed to be protected, and they said that some customers left because a person wasn't wearing a mask. We even had one person stand maskless in the middle of the store refusing to leave, but not wanting to buy anything"

 

Me: " So, the problem is with your staff - may I suggest you look at hiring less paranoid staff and thus secure the business of regular customers? As for the lone ranger staking out for no reason in your store, that's a mischief charge or similar... I, on the hand, was discriminated against for no good or valid reason.

 

Also, I would hate to go down the discrimination path, when your staff are the reason for your actions. What are you prepared to do about it? I  feel aggrieved and upset at being discriminated against and still cant buy my shoes in a store I usually frequent."

 

( I pointed out that my father is a businessman in the UK and he would have never treated his customers so poorly.

 

We had a good pleasant conversation and he was genuinely bothered by his staffs action....albeit following the 'policy'.) 

 

 

He: "Would you like to come in before the store opens and have a private time to shop?"

Me:  "That sounds like heaven - being able to avoid a store full of muzzled paranoid staff and patrons.... but wouldn't that still constitute discrimination?"

 

He: Yes I guess it would but I have to keep my staff safe and they are worried about a virus"

 

Cue... my lecture on the non isolated virus and the obviousness of its mysterious renaming from the flu... then the details of the vaccine or rather the mRNA genetic material. Told him of my history of working in a heart and lung ward and that I feel that if I let his stores discrimination go then I am not stopping the problem in its tracks.

 

He: "Well I have some staff that have no problem with serving non masked people but of course I don't want a discrimination suit."

 

Me: " Well, thank goodness you have a few intelligent staff in your store - I may take you up on your private shop....but I also want you to address the discrimination of the non masked please. I suggest you advise the paranoid staff that they are there to serve the public and the '''rules''' in place currently state there are those who do not need to wear a mask. If they cant handle it - maybe they should be replaced.  I will even offer my services for free whilst you find replacements !!! :-) ( A cause is a cause after all ) lol

 

He: chuckled - " Can I call you back... I would like to resolve this"

 

Me: Of course...and make sure you have a few pairs of Skechers in ...because I do like those"

 

He: " I will and we have some other new stock in now... "

 

Me: Looking forward to it...

 

I directed him to others stores and how they handle the situation re no mask. Told him that they are respecting the non mask wearers as is correct and not discriminatory... 

The perks that come from standing your ground are unlimited it seems... I may also ask for some vouchers for my trouble ;-)

 

Was a much longer conversation....but again... keep pushing back folks.

 

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13 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Well, where to begin... I went into a shoe store this week. Was about 3 metres inside when the women at the checkout said " You need a mask"

I replied " No I dont need one - health issue"

She " Well you do because this is a private business and we make the rules"

Me" You are serving the public not the private I presume"?

She " Thats our policy - you can shop online"

Me " Thats discrimination, I will make a formal complaint"  I leave.

 

 

 

It's funny when you think about the wedding cake maker who refused the gay couple because it was against their religious beliefs to make a cake for them, the furore, and outcry that ensued that their personal beliefs should not be reflected in their shop rules in what should be regarded as a public marketplace open to all, with no discrimination. Different scenario obviously but still shows there is no consistency about what the rules actually are.

 

 

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2 hours ago, BossCrow said:

 

 

 

Bravo Professor BossCrow

I see you have isolated the virus, and managed to purify it.

The top hat spike proteins are notable and clearly must be the cause of infection.

As I understand it, the culture will burst in around  5 days and will infect the remaining population, question is would it not be better to eradicate the virus before it all kicks off?

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1 hour ago, BossCrow said:

 

They are posh so it doesn't count.

 

Twat Handcock used to be a jockey:

 

https://www.tatler.com/article/everything-you-need-to-know-about-matt-hancock-conservative-health-secretary

 

He once, in 2012, trained as a jockey and won a race at the beating heart of British racing, Newmarket, in his constituency. Going the whole hog, he trained rigorously, shedding two stones and even seeking advice from champion jockey Frankie Dettori. He keeps it up; in December, 2019 he posted a video of himself galloping atop a racehorse on the Newmarket heath, summarising afterwards, ‘absolutely exhilarating, every single time’.

 

 

So maybe he's a horse fellator as well as a canine fellator?

 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

that must mean the az viral vector jab (might as well include the jj one as well) is safer than the phizer/moderna one then.

 

Not necessarily. I think they just really want that DNA altering mRNA shite in us. For whatever reason, that's far more important to them that viral vector and other crap, so they are willing to give up the non- mRNA jabs if it means we will take the mRNA ones.

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West Australian health authorities say a woman has died in a Perth hospital and they are providing her vaccine history to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA). It is understood she received a COVID vaccination earlier this month and was admitted to hospital this week. It is not yet clear whether her death is linked to the vaccine.Sources told the ABC the death was not linked to a blood clot, but the TGA will investigate whether it could have been caused by the potential side effect of a vaccine. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/woman-death-reported-in-wa-hospital-vaccine-history-probed/100242358

 

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21 minutes ago, DarianF said:

Trying bribery. If that doesn't work, prepare for the threats. If that doesn't work, prepare for the force...

 

Exempting vaccinated Australians from travel bans would boost vaccine take up, PM says

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/exempting-vaccinated-australians-from-travel-bans-would-boost-vaccine-take-up-pm-says-20210624-p58451.html

Some great doublespeak from Scott Morrison there; surely if you have a 'travel exemption' that should mean you're not allowed to travel. 😄

 

and this-

 

“It’s not what it is [vaccine passports], it was just simply saying that if you’ve been vaccinated, that the state governments would recognise that and you’d be able to move around in times like this,” Mr Morrison told host Paul Murray.

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3 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

You can buy ivermectin from other countries but it is cost $50 and customs might steal it. 

I got a "ton" of it from India with no customs problems. It's legal to import meds for your own use

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3 hours ago, Human10 said:

But seriously - couldn't I just use product for a rabbit? Or they add some hay to it? ;)

Not sure how much is in the drops, but you need 4 guinea pig/rabbit tablets (3mg) to get the human dose (12mg) used in India. Horse version might be easier but need to reduce dose by bodyweight - the sheep and cattle ones tend to be injections in the UK (see https://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/ivermectin-horse-wormers/products/1185)

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2 minutes ago, BossCrow said:

Some great doublespeak from Scott Morrison there; surely if you have a 'travel exemption' that should mean you're not allowed to travel. 😄

 

and this-

 

“It’s not what it is [vaccine passports], it was just simply saying that if you’ve been vaccinated, that the state governments would recognise that and you’d be able to move around in times like this,” Mr Morrison told host Paul Murray.

 

You can't work if you don't have it, but we wouldn't dream of making it compulsory.

 

You can't travel if you don't have it, but we would never consider making it mandatory.

 

As a government, we stand behind free choice. And if you choose not to have the vaccine, knowing the penalties and restrictions that will apply, then you've been given the opportunity to exercise your free choice not to work or travel.

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2 hours ago, BossCrow said:

 


 

made me laugh twice!!

 

1 st  of what he’s saying is completely true!

 

2nd he could be my twin brother without beard and long hair !  But the face is like looking in mirror 😀

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Just been looking for info on the UK's NHS 'Track and Trace' app and found this 'digital health passport' (released 2020) aimed at kids with asthma 13yrs and up. They're obviously trying to get people used to the idea of these passports-

 

https://www.nhs.uk/apps-library/digital-health-passport/

 

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Interesting choice of date- 3/6 (666)

 

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And this image from the app developer's site https://tinymedicalapps.com/-

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Sep 11th (the UK's vaccine hotline number is 119) and a passenger jet.

 

There are even 2 different times on the phone; 15:52 (added up = 13)

and 2:36 (11) (put those together to get 33)

 

And the icons used; 'health tracker' paw print like you're a dog. And is that a camera on the 'health hacks' button? These apps could be easy to hack, the NHS make no guarantees.

 

Incidentally the NHS doesn't make any of these apps and accepts no responsibility

whatsoever for damages, harm , loss of data, etc.

 

some more info on the app here-

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinymedicalapps.digitalhealthpassport&hl=en_US

 

 

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3 hours ago, k_j_evans said:

No point. If they want to wear masks, who am I stop them? if they don't, I just say, "oh, you are exempt" and wink a lot in case they don't get it. But I get the maskless to sit at the front just in case the masked ones infect them - all that bacteria and fungus. If they don't want to, I don't insist. I don't wear one. Many of their employers (eg Siemens) are insisting on daily tests, so being asked to sit in a particular seat is minor. If they don't do their exams (and pass), they are out of a job. 

Thank fuck i left Siemens when i did,although look at it this way,60k p.a with no academic qualifications and a 2 weeks on 2 weeks off work cycle and a requirement for daily tests (and home on part pay to 'isolate' if positive) or nothing and the dole if you are lucky

 

What would YOU do ?

 

I'm so pleased so many people have such high morals they'd quit

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10 hours ago, k_j_evans said:

But I don't want to be upgraded. I want to go back to a simpler life with horses and other animals and wood fires and candles and rabbit stew and barter systems. Stuff your technology, I'm sick of it - it was interesting in the 1980s, but now it's just annoying. What we need is a massive EMP to get rid of it all.

I spotted this earlier and made a note to come back and respond (Thursday's my day off) - bloody marvelous and one hundred million agreements. 

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5 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

If i'm reading the info correctly at the second link these figures do not include deaths in care homes or outside of an nhs hospital setting and only include those who have tested positive for cv19 so the true figure is perhaps a good deal higher

 

You're quite right, although I'm not sure how many under 60s are in care homes and I'm yet to see anything like this:

 

 

What the true number is I don't know. Saying that, is postmortem covid testing a thing? Not sure.

 

4 hours ago, Basket Case said:


l've looked through both links.
Where did you get the picture of the tables with numbers from ?
Thanks
:O)

 

There's a link halfway down the page titled "COVID 19 total announced deaths 24 June 2021 – weekly file"

I added the figures from the gov.uk site to the NHS Excel file.

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