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1 hour ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

I have a question of a scientific nature . before the advent of using the PCR test ,if you went to the Dr or the hospital and it was suspected you had an infection or a virus what sort of test was used ? I supposedly had Swine flu and a few years ago and 3 years ago had metapneumovirus .When in the emergency they took a throat swab to make the diagnosis ,if a PCR test wasnt in general use then what sort of test would they have used ? And why isnt that kind of test used now ? Apart from wanting to create cases  with the PCR test that is .

there was a XFILES episode in which scully mentions using a PCR test , i think it was the Leonard Betts episode

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2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Yes they have been increasing & probably majority tested are already jabbed??

What I dont understand, if its always false positives why it would fluctuate so drastically.

 

 

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Agreed, a false flag is brewing on the movement. Some presstitute like Marianna Toxic Spring might go walk about, then they will have their excuse.

 

The data is quite easy to manipulate. One thing that has never been explicit is the number of PCR cycles used in testing. If you want more falsies...then increase the cycles. We know that before the WHO annoncement on Biden inauguration day the default was over 40 cycles..the WHO said it should be less than 30, hence the drop in numbers around the world after jan.

 

Its a scam...if it wasn't they'd make the data on cycles openly available, and in such a 'public health emergency' they would keep blood samples from the 'cases' on ice for future auditing. But ho hum..none of that.

 

Indeed its no different to how other things are manipulated like the 'stock market' by the big guys

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I know we can all question whether there is a 'bug'..but its good to see a shill like colbert poop himself and twist himself around. Also sometimes comedy is the best way to highlight lies

 

 

Good jokes about the virus starting miraculously in Wuhan of all places

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4 minutes ago, sarbloh said:

 

The data is quite easy to manipulate. One thing that has never been explicit is the number of PCR cycles used in testing. If you want more falsies...then increase the cycles. We know that before the WHO annoncement on Biden inauguration day the default was over 40 cycles..the WHO said it should be less than 30, hence the drop in numbers around the world after jan.

 

Its a scam...if it wasn't they'd make the data on cycles openly available, and in such a 'public health emergency' they would keep blood samples from the 'cases' on ice for future auditing. But ho hum..none of that.

 

Indeed its no different to how other things are manipulated like the 'stock market' by the big guys

 

Yes in the UK they test upto 45x cycle threshold admitted & this detects dead virus. They also are meant to detect upto 3 separate DNA examples for a positive I believe. But then between February & now they ramped up the testing but the cases went down. So not easily explained unless they are rigging the figures or turning the amplitude down like you say they did in the US to 28x for jabbed. But thats never been mentioned.

 

Total insanity to test healthy people & not focus on protecting the sick to justify more lockdowns.

How can you have a country with the highest amount of tests & jabbed in the world, yet more outbreaks? & not a mention in the media about this insanity. Proves the majority are clearly on autopilot & not a critical thought in their being.

They've redefined herd immunity, but cant offer any real immunity.

I called it medical martial law from day 1 & people tried to say I was exaggerating.

Im now of the opinion Bill Gates has a point about final solution. They didnt have to bother putting anyone on trains, they queued willingly.

 

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5 hours ago, Human10 said:

They wish you dead too... And it's over 60% of them now so 'wishing' is a small thing before the war.

I wished my rats were gone - unfortunately I had to put traps and poison...

 

That's just absolutely not true. I know plenty of jabees who I am in good terms with.

 

Your post is nonsense.

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18 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

and lets give credit where credit is due,i suspect that those wily teenagers know how to game the system perfectly well,fancy 10 days off,right lets get them a positive result

Its already happening mate. One cult of covid business owner I talk to is moaning about staff having to isolate due to the qr codes. He reckons they bullshiting and playing hooky. Well sorry mate. You play with fire you get burnt.🤣🤣

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2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Yes in the UK they test upto 45x cycle threshold admitted & this detects dead virus. They also are meant to detect upto 3 separate DNA examples for a positive I believe. But then between February & now they ramped up the testing but the cases went down. So not easily explained unless they are rigging the figures or turning the amplitude down like you say they did in the US to 28x for jabbed. But thats never been mentioned.

 

Total insanity to test healthy people & not focus on protecting the sick to justify more lockdowns.

How can you have a country with the highest amount of tests & jabbed in the world, yet more outbreaks? & not a mention in the media about this insanity. Proves the majority are clearly on autopilot & not a critical thought in their being.

They've redefined herd immunity, but cant offer any real immunity.

I called it medical martial law from day 1 & people tried to say I was exaggerating.

Im now of the opinion Bill Gates has a point about final solution. They didnt have to bother putting anyone on trains, they queued willingly.

 

So to summarise what we've said...its a load of bollocks. But repeat the bollocks..then the bollocks become the 'truth'

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45 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

Did you see the documentary on the testing centre in the UK doing the tests ? totally compromised tests highly untrained people carrying them out,cant remember which channel it was on,probably vanished without trace now

 

If you mean the Panorama doc .... I have it and there are very interesting clips within it!

 

I just found it again on bitchute .... if it is the one you mean?

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/MyVRx893XXkp/

 

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I noticed that before they 'rebranded' the indian variant the 'wokerati' were limiting their use of that term. But since they called it 'delta' they've gone full retard on it. If only the term 'delta' offended some group they could put it back under a stone.

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38 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

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This perfectly sums up our current absurd situation. Johnson and his henchmen constantly urge caution and patience with regards to lockdown easing. Contrast that with the vax program and its no holds bar recklessness.

Not fully tested vax, Mass Vax, multiple vax, change the interval between doses, test the young, mix and max vax. In a few months time a booster vax plus a flu vax to  add to the giant mixing pot.

He and this program are insane. He needs to be sectioned immediately.

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50 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Yes in the UK they test upto 45x cycle threshold admitted & this detects dead virus. They also are meant to detect upto 3 separate DNA examples for a positive I believe. But then between February & now they ramped up the testing but the cases went down. So not easily explained unless they are rigging the figures or turning the amplitude down like you say they did in the US to 28x for jabbed. But thats never been mentioned.

 

Total insanity to test healthy people & not focus on protecting the sick to justify more lockdowns.

How can you have a country with the highest amount of tests & jabbed in the world, yet more outbreaks? & not a mention in the media about this insanity. Proves the majority are clearly on autopilot & not a critical thought in their being.

They've redefined herd immunity, but cant offer any real immunity.

I called it medical martial law from day 1 & people tried to say I was exaggerating.

Im now of the opinion Bill Gates has a point about final solution. They didnt have to bother putting anyone on trains, they queued willingly.

 

And they will charge them for the train journey and they will pay willingly

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1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

That's just absolutely not true. I know plenty of jabees who I am in good terms with.

 

Your post is nonsense.

Good for you. Probably you don't read online comments. 

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2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

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Out of reactions. excellent message!

 

How many contradictions have authoritarians presented to all of us this past 15 months?

The irony is lost on most (not here of course) but then most have been inducted into a "SOCIETY"  that resembles terrorist cell programming since birth, with a ready made construct within which to function according to the learned authoritarian mantra of obedience.

 

The fault lies with the acceptance of authority and authoritarianism is terrorism.

 

Sovereignty implies self ownership and is self evident as is an objectively rationalised morality (natural law)

The unthinking masses haven't lost their minds, how can they when they are seldom used! (irrespective of IQ)

 

Words like mandate do not exist in a balanced society operating from a principled perspective of natural law.

 

The inequity and immorality of authoritarianism is on full display now for all who choose to see it!

Ultimately it is what we wanted (transparency! clarity!) and this is the best chance I believe we will ever get to correct the imbalance.

Pain and suffering has always been the most effective instructor!

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14 hours ago, Macnamara said:

if you tolerate this then YOU will be next

Compulsory vaccines for NHS and care staff to be announced

Health and care workers will be given 16 weeks to get jab or face losing their jobs

By Telegraph Reporters 16 June 2021 • 6:00am

Covid-19 vaccinations will be made compulsory for NHS and care home workers, ministers are preparing to announce. 

Under the plans, staff working with adults will be given 16 weeks to get vaccinated or face losing their jobs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/16/compulsory-jabs-nhs-care-staff-announced/

 

They have yet to  hit a wall of significant resistance. They announce something, then wait to see if there is any resistance, if not then they move on to the next step in the agenda. This is why they have come as far as they have in the global script.  

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5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

That's good but don't pin all your hopes on unions. There has been a lot of work by the intelligence agencies to infiltrate the unions for decades. The financier Jimmy Goldsmith funded the founder of the SAS David Stirling to create a group called 'great britain 75' to infiltrate the unions back in the 70's.

 

So don't be surprised if when it comes to crunch time the unions fold like a paper bag

 

Be prepared to use your own 'consumer power' namely to vote with your feet and simply down tools with others and refuse to work. You may want your own network outside of the unions through which to coordinate your efforts which might involve a social media group. I despise facebook but most people are probably on there but if you organise a group yourself you could do it on a different platform (rejecting facebook is in itself is a form of activism)

 

Stay strong and just say 'no'!

Thanks for the input. I know what you mean about Unions, I don't hold much hope out but liked what this union advised which is to state it is against my beliefs, which it is of course. As for comrades at work, there's only me and 2 more 🙄 they either enrolled immediately or caved in when questioned. This site is as social as I get lol, I don't use Facebook etc. 

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7 minutes ago, BruiseL said:

Thanks for the input. I know what you mean about Unions, I don't hold much hope out but liked what this union advised which is to state it is against my beliefs, which it is of course. As for comrades at work, there's only me and 2 more 🙄 they either enrolled immediately or caved in when questioned. This site is as social as I get lol, I don't use Facebook etc. 

You can start GoFound me if you need a good lawyer and share a link. You have to keep this job for us... Don't give up please. 🙏

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Latest article from Jon Rappoport which basically gives us a lowdown on what is driving this crazy situation we find ourselves in... food for thought...

 

COVID: Three men who own corporate America

 

by Jon Rappoport

 

 
 

I’m reprinting this article I wrote in July, 2020. Before I do, here is an analogy.

 

Let’s say you own a company. You’re public, meaning you issue stock for sale.

 

Suddenly, the fake pandemic hits. The governor of the state issues restrictions, including lockdowns. You have to close your doors. You’re going to take a staggering financial hit.

 

Your first reaction? Anger. Seething anger. You’re determined to fight back. You call your lawyer to work out a plan.

 

“Wait a minute,” he says. “I have some bad news. Do you know who is now the majority shareholder of your company? Bill Gates. And he has voting rights. If you object to the lockdowns, he’ll roast you alive. You’ll be out on your ass…”

 

Buckle up. Here we go.

 

THE THREE MEN WHO OWN CORPORATE AMERICA

 

Over the past 38 years working as a reporter, I’ve spoken with many medical people. Doctors, researchers, public health bureaucrats, business executives whose companies supply products to the medical industry, professors, etc.

 

In every case, these people completely and utterly support conventional medical reality. They are unshakable. A man like Fauci says jump and they jump. To do otherwise would be unthinkable.

 

As you read on, you’ll see why this is important…

 

Airlines, hotel chains---you name it, they all folded when the lockdowns were imposed. They closed up shop, they took a knee, they opted for bailouts. Why?

 

The CEOs of these corporations are supposed to be hard chargers and ruthless operators. Why didn’t they rebel?

 

I could cite several reasons. Here I want to focus on a little-known and staggering story.

 

Imagine an employee of a company is motivated to speak out against the lockdowns and go public. Then he thinks about the owner of the company. That owner happens to sit on the board of a large hospital.

 

Uh oh. That owner is SOLIDLY WIRED into official medical reality. He isn’t going to appreciate a naysayer who says the lockdowns are a ridiculous and destructive overreach. Better to stay quiet. Better to fit in and go along.

 

Well, it so happens that three of the most powerful corporate bosses in America DO have deep connections to major hospitals, and these three men run corporations that OWN CORPORATE AMERICA.

 

What???

 

The three men are Larry Fink, Joseph Hooley, and Mortimer Buckley.

 

Buckley is the CEO of the Vanguard Group. Hooley is the CEO of State Street. Fink is the CEO of BlackRock.

 

These three companies are titanic investment funds. Financial services companies.

 

Buckley is a board member of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. From 2011 to 2017, he was chairman of the hospital’s board of trustees.

 

Hooley serves on the president’s council of Massachusetts General Hospital.

 

Fink is the co-chair of the NYU Langone Medical Center board of trustees.

 

Let’s look at their investment funds: State Street, BlackRock, and Vanguard---known as The Big Three. The reference is an article at theconversation[dot]com, “These three firms own corporate America,” 5/19/17, by Jan Fichtner, Eelke Heemskerk, and Javier Garcia-Bernardo.

 

“Together, BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street have nearly US$11 trillion in assets under management.”

 

“We found that the Big Three, taken together, have become the largest shareholder in 40% of all publicly listed firms in the United States.”

 

“In 2015, these 1,600 American firms [the 40%] had combined revenues of about US$9.1 trillion, a market capitalisation of more than US$17 trillion, and employed more than 23.5 million people.”

 

“In the S&P 500 – the benchmark index of America’s largest corporations – the situation is even more extreme. Together, the Big Three are the largest single shareholder in almost 90% of S&P 500 firms, including Apple, Microsoft, ExxonMobil, General Electric and Coca-Cola.”

 

“What is undeniable is that the Big Three do exert the voting rights attached to these shares. Therefore, they have to be perceived as de facto owners by corporate executives.” (emphasis mine)

 

“Whether or not they sought to, the Big Three have accumulated extraordinary shareholder power, and they continue to do so…In many respects, the index fund boom is turning BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street into something resembling low-cost public utilities with a quasi-monopolistic position.”

 

If the CEO of a corporation whose main shareholder is The Big Three thinks about rebelling against the official COVID medical consensus…

 

And he knows that The Big Three bosses are heavily wired into the US medical complex…

 

That CEO has a HUGE reason to forget about being an old-time hard charger.

 

He has a reason to swallow his anger when he’s told to lock down and shut down.

 

He has a reason to knuckle under and play the game.

 

He has a reason to surrender to a story about a virus and Fauci and Bill Gates.

 

He has a reason to stand down and stand aside and watch economic devastation sweep over the land.

 

HIS CORPORATION IS OWNED BY THE BIG THREE, AND THE OWNERS OF THE BIG THREE ARE LOYAL MEMBERS OF THE MEDICAL COMPLEX…THE COMPLEX THAT FORMS THE CURRENT POLICE STATE THAT HAS SUBDUED THE WORLD, UNDER THE FALSE BANNER OF “SAVING HUMANITY FROM THE VIRUS.”

 

It’s that stark.

 

I keep telling you we’re now living in a medical civilization.

 

From the financial side of things, you’ve just read how that is so.

 

The three men who own corporate America are also medical denizens.

 

Think it through.

 

~~~

 

(The link to this article posted on my blog is here -- with sources.)

 

(Follow me on Gab at @jonrappoport)

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1 minute ago, Human10 said:

You can start GoFound me if you need a good lawyer and share a link. You have to keep this job for us... Don't give up please. 🙏

I'm not giving up. Said to my Husband last night that the fight has to start somewhere with someone and I know there are others fighting around the world but if we don't step on this mandatory jab we are so doomed. GoFund me would be the only way to afford a lawyer but I'll see how this pans out. They've asked others at work about getting the jab but left me alone for 2 days, not asked me but they know my views all too well lol. 

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22 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Corporate enforcement.

 

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Amateurs doing a pro's job. Unfortunately, they let the copper lead the interview and in reality they should have watched Mark Sexton's video closer to how he presented this in a way cops can understand. He didn't present his case like they did. 

 

They let her wrap them up in knots. Shame. 

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38 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Good for you. Probably you don't read online comments. 

 

There's usually only a type who would put comments on-line wanting death to anybody. 

 

That can't be taken to be the majority view.

 

Don't be infantile, with your 'Good for you' - it should be good for you to know that not everybody is s psycho. 

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