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Sage were not required in the first instance.

They are unelected, have no formal authority, have a bias towards behavioural modification through deception or "nudging" and bear no responsibility for their actions.

 

Rats must sense the ship is sinking!

From https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/charles-walker-we-must-curb-the-power-of-unelected-sage/

Charles Walker: We must curb the power of unelected Sage

 

THE clear-sighted and courageous Sir Charles Walker, Conservative MP for Broxbourne, took to his feet yesterday in the House of Commons and delivered the most wonderful attack on Sage and the feather-bedded crony group on it (my description).

He came straight to the point of the huge control these unelected ‘experts’ have accrued over our lives – by contrast, you might say, with his zombified elected colleagues. Sage, he said, has power over whom we hug and hold, over which businesses open and which businesses close, over who keeps their job and who loses their job. Yet unlike elected MPs, they have no accountability at all. 

He suggested some reforms to rectify this: – 

  • Greater financial transparency for Sage members, in line with MPs’ own declarations about their outside earnings, interests and pensions;  
  • An end to the current trend of advisers appearing on national television to give their opinions on the pandemic. (‘There should be no more “Here is Sir Mark Walport of Sage, but here in a personal capacity”,’ he said);
  • Elections to Sage, to ensure that the security of Sir Mark Walport, Professor Susan Michie, John Edmunds et al  can be challenged by the myriad dissenting excluded experts such as ‘Professor Karol Sikora, Professor Paul Dolan, who is an expert on human behaviour and quality of life, and Professor Ellen Townsend, who has a huge interest in the welfare of children and adolescents who are now being plagued by anxiety and eating disorders.’

Given that it seems highly unlikely that our certifiable Prime Minister will sack the lot, this last suggestion seems the best way forward. Hard to argue with, you’d think . . .

You can watch the full speech, and interventions, here.

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Sage were not required in the first instance.

They are unelected, have no formal authority, have a bias towards behavioural modification through deception or "nudging" and bear no responsibility for their actions.

 

Rats must sense the ship is sinking!

From https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/charles-walker-we-must-curb-the-power-of-unelected-sage/

Charles Walker: We must curb the power of unelected Sage

 

THE clear-sighted and courageous Sir Charles Walker, Conservative MP for Broxbourne, took to his feet yesterday in the House of Commons and delivered the most wonderful attack on Sage and the feather-bedded crony group on it (my description).

He came straight to the point of the huge control these unelected ‘experts’ have accrued over our lives – by contrast, you might say, with his zombified elected colleagues. Sage, he said, has power over whom we hug and hold, over which businesses open and which businesses close, over who keeps their job and who loses their job. Yet unlike elected MPs, they have no accountability at all. 

He suggested some reforms to rectify this: – 

  • Greater financial transparency for Sage members, in line with MPs’ own declarations about their outside earnings, interests and pensions;  
  • An end to the current trend of advisers appearing on national television to give their opinions on the pandemic. (‘There should be no more “Here is Sir Mark Walport of Sage, but here in a personal capacity”,’ he said);
  • Elections to Sage, to ensure that the security of Sir Mark Walport, Professor Susan Michie, John Edmunds et al  can be challenged by the myriad dissenting excluded experts such as ‘Professor Karol Sikora, Professor Paul Dolan, who is an expert on human behaviour and quality of life, and Professor Ellen Townsend, who has a huge interest in the welfare of children and adolescents who are now being plagued by anxiety and eating disorders.’

Given that it seems highly unlikely that our certifiable Prime Minister will sack the lot, this last suggestion seems the best way forward. Hard to argue with, you’d think . . .

You can watch the full speech, and interventions, here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Talking of SAGE... I once worked for a professor at a major University in Canada.  This person was invited by SAGE ( this person was a psychology professor btw) to spend time at a headquarters ( or their own place of residences there)  in New York. If I remember correctly they were going to attend something and speak also. This trip was fully paid for and this persons spouse and two children were also allowed to go and be housed for free. They were also given a daily spending allowance. I will try to find the place that they stayed at...but they were there for several days. This professor was involved big time in quite a few bullshit agendas... only now fully coming to light for me.

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4 hours ago, Number6 said:

Only 41.9% of French nursing home workers vaccinated, data reveals, as health minister threatens compulsory Covid-19 jabs

 

Public Health France (SpF) has said that less than half of health professionals working in nursing homes are vaccinated against Covid-19 after the health minister called on workers to come forward and get their shot.

In data published on Thursday evening, SpF stated that only 41.9% of people working in nursing homes in France had been fully vaccinated against the deadly Covid-19 virus, despite the country’s vaccination program being nearly six months old, and 55.3% had received one shot. Healthcare workers were among the first in the country to be offered the jab.  

The health agency had stopped publishing this data for several weeks as it reworked its calculation method. SpF has reportedly realized that the figures were overestimated. 

https://www.rt.com/news/526923-france-covid19-care-home-workers/

 

There seems to be a growing pattern here. 🤔 I hope they will resist if it is mandated. 

 

It may be France, under the EU umbrella, but it is the exact same centralised policy roll-out as the UK. Johnson and Macron are the Number 2s of their villages, taking instructions from Number 1.    In the UK there is more pushback in London by care home staff, which I have heard about through the grapevine.

 

COVID-19: Vaccinations to be made compulsory for care home staff and looked at for NHS workers

Latest NHS figures, up to 6 June, show that 84% of staff in older adult care homes in England have had one jab, while almost 69% have two doses.

But in the east London borough of Hackney, for example, only 66.7% of staff in older adult care homes have received their first inoculation, while 58.6% have had two jabs.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccinations-to-be-made-compulsory-for-care-home-staff-12334060

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MP Derek Sloan raises concerns about censorship of doctors and scientists – June 17, 2021

Independent MP Derek Sloan holds a news conference on Parliament Hill to raise concerns about the alleged censorship of doctors and scientists as well as medical information related to vaccines. The Ontario MP has been critical of lockdowns that have been in place due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and also sponsored a petition questioning the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. He is joined by a trio of trio of doctors and scientists.

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

dont worry men. coming out of nz. set your vpn to asia, they dont want the world to know

 

Men's sperm counts boosted after getting COVID-19 vaccine - study

 

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/06/coronavirus-men-s-sperm-counts-boosted-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine-study.html

 

 

The world as it is now...

 

 

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Get a load of this...

 

Anti-vaccine activists aim to 'convert' Victorians queuing up to receive COVID-19 jab

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/coronacheck-melbourne-anti-vaccine-boris-johnson-eriksen/100215852

 

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"In this week's CoronaCheck, we bring you disturbing footage of anti-vaxxers trying to dissuade people queuing at a Melbourne COVID-19 vaccination centre from getting the jab."

 

🤣🤣

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1 in 100 chance of rashes, dizziness, stomach pain and swollen lymph nodes...  

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Missing from the leaflet... blindness, blood clots, strokes, muscle spasms, paralysis, swollen heart and death. 

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The Communist/Socialist Liberals have started a race war in America. They wish to destroy the individual States by having them use Federal Police to tackle the increase in crime. Once Americas law is enforced by Federal Police the USA will simply become the U.A or United America.

 

This will be the change that will remove Americas Declaration of Independence as independent from the globalist/communist agenda that the Holy Roman Empire and its Church of Rome has been working towards for millennia. Along with Russia and China and the hidden hand of the Trojan Horse the United Kingdom, the British system of Communism will, by virtue of the Fourth Industrial revolution and the Great Reset initiated by Covid, supported by Democrats, globalist billionaires and BIG Tech controlling all electronic information from elections to Social Media and the perception of the sleeping masses, begin the unionization of the entire first world, the Super Power Nations with the rest of the world to follow. This is what a global coup d'etat looks like.

 

A New World and a New World Order.

 

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2 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

1 in 100 chance of rashes, dizziness, stomach pain and swollen lymph nodes...  

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"The decision has been made on the basis of short term efficacy and safety data. Continued approval is dependent upon the evidence of longer-term efficacy and safety from ongoing clinical trials and post-market assessment."

https://www.ebs.tga.gov.au/ebs/picmi/picmirepository.nsf/pdf?OpenAgent&id=CP-2021-PI-01194-1&d=202106181016933

 

 

Literally, the definition of an ongoing experiment. People are so retarded not to see this.

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5 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

1 in 100 chance of rashes, dizziness, stomach pain and swollen lymph nodes...  

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Funny, not seeing any mention of DEATH on there, and there does seem to be a bit of it going about after these injections? 🤨

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