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Just now, Shy Talk said:

 

Thing is, they're either family you spent the first 20 or so years living with, and/or they're the people you've since spent x number of years socialising with. Either way it's difficult to accept there isn't a brain amongst them. This is the most difficult part for me to get my head around, as I remain in a tiny minority.

 

I know; it’s all very strange. 

Why are you/we the so called odd ones out; why don’t we believe the so called official narrative?

 

Its not easy, but I’d rather be like me, than be like them.

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2 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

I know; it’s all very strange. 

Why are you/we the so called odd ones out; why don’t we believe the so called official narrative?

 

Its not easy, but I’d rather be like me, than be like them.

 

Think of the tens of thousands of protesters recently.

We're not as rare as they would have you believe.

The way I look at it is that most Germans went along with the Nazi doctrine in the 1930,s, mostly due to fear or misguided loyalty, and I see many similarities with this Covid crap. We are the types who would have been against the Nazi's in the early days, this is something to be proud of.

 

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2 minutes ago, Roscommon said:

 

Think of the tens of thousands of protesters recently.

We're not as rare as they would have you believe.

The way I look at it is that most Germans went along with the Nazi doctrine in the 1930,s, mostly due to fear or misguided loyalty, and I see many similarities with this Covid crap. We are the types who would have been against the Nazi's in the early days, this is something to be proud of.

 

 

For sure there are hundreds of thousands/millions protesting against this bs, but there seem to be more who believe it, or don’t believe it but will go along with it for the reasons you stated above, or who are just plain complacent and think it’ll all come right.

 

Its like living on a seesaw, one minute thinking it’ll be okay because the crap they put out shouldn’t be able to fool anyone with half a brain cell; then the next, finding out it does fool most.

 

Does your head in sometimes 🤯

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31 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

 

Thing is, they're either family you spent the first 20 or so years living with, and/or they're the people you've since spent x number of years socialising with. Either way it's difficult to accept there isn't a brain amongst them. This is the most difficult part for me to get my head around, as I remain in a tiny minority.

 

It is disheartening when so many of my family and friends believe the media and Government. But there are probably tens of millions of people in Europe alone who don't.  Not everyone is able to join the protests.

 

Posting this one from Germany last year because I like the music as well as the numbers💗

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

And the masses will read that and find nothing illogical about it.

 

I expect Tony Blair will appear on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show putting it out the need for global change with digital IDs to protect the security of the internet.

 

 

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Whenever I think about a draconian law being introduced. Or those wishing to control and supress the people. I don't worry. Why not, one would ask? Well, there are always resistance, there is always backlash, people will always resist. It's not always the majority, but everything works out in the end. Man's destiny is Freedom.

 

Freedom is innate, Freedom is part of the soul. Think about the American Revolution for example, or think about the Berlin Wall. Did those people ask the authorities to tear down the wall? No, they just wanted to tear down the Communist/Fascist symbol of division. 

 

My point here is that in the end, people always wake up to what is going on. And when push comes to shove, Freedom will always win, because it is innate. It is what makes us human. So don't get disheartened when you see those following blinding to these laws made to supress individuality or the spirit of Freedom.

 

Go out and stop following the unjust laws. Go out and set an example. This in turn will cause a ripple effect. You start non-complying, others will soon realise that there is no consequence and eventually others will follow suite. Do not give into fear. Rememeber Fear is False Evidence Appearing Real or False Emotional Active Response. The act of saying No is more powerful than saying Yes.

 

Peace Brothers and Sisters

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59 minutes ago, ar55 said:

Have you got a source for that stat?

 

Not doubting you, would just like it to throw in their faces.

Latest US/UK/EU figures from their official data sources - 

 

20,285 DEATHS

2,537,333 reported side effects many serious.

 

5165 in USA

1253 in the UK (massive under reporting and obviously didn't count the mass extermination of the elderly when they did the initial care home blitz in Dec/Jan because they all died of 'covid' during the "100th wave")

 

UK started the State Sponsored Murder on 8 Dec. - 182days ago  ~6.88/7 dying a day.

US started their SSM on 14th - 176 days ago ~`29.34/30 a day

 

From UKC News

 

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This guy (internet has deleted him but found it in archives) has graphs showing each region of England showing the same pattern.

http://web.archive.org/web/20210126075421/https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1353482061852643328.html

up to Jan 19th

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From DailyMail

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links in here man 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Roscommon said:

The way I look at it is that most Germans went along with the Nazi doctrine in the 1930,s, mostly due to fear or misguided loyalty, and I see many similarities with this Covid crap.

 

why do you assume they went along with it out of fear or misguided loyalty?

 

why not intoxication? They had been humiliated by the first world war followed by watching their savings destroyed by the great depression. Then a confident and optomistic group instilled pride in them again

 

If you listen to the woke maskers many of them are doing what they are doing because they are completely POLARISED by a partisan culture that has politicised EVERYTHING. They are intoxicated by pure bitchyness and the triumphalism of having biden in power.....logic and rationality don't even come into it

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7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

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VAX FOR FREEDOM VICTORIANS (I used to consider myself one for a decade)

When they say we’ve reached this magic unicorn 70%, I’m going to ask 10 randos if they’ve had the shots to see if 7 have😀

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2 hours ago, joey_j said:

Had a similar situation today. My manager, 30 years old had his first jab last week and was ill all over the weekend with symptoms worse than covid. Told him last week he was crazy and I would not be getting it. Held my tongue on our team call this morning but someone later brought up the introduction of vaccine passports and how they would be a good idea to get people back to the office. At this point I couldn't hold it in anymore and accused them of supporting medical tyranny and they looked at me like I was the crazy one.

 

Suffice to say I hope we are never to return to the office if this is what the majority of people seem to think. I don't even want to be around these people anymore, they are completely deranged and brainwashed and I will never look at people the same again.

 

 

I'm back in the workplace stroke Office and have been since last July.

95% of the people who work in the same building are still working from home though so I don't get to speak to those unless it's a teams meeting which to date Covid apart from risk assessments haven't really been discussed.

 

So far the ones in the work place have been advised to take two weekly Covid tests, it's not compulsory and I haven't took any to date but know once people start to trickle back into work things are going to become heated.

 

Of the people I work with who are in the workplace with me; all have had the jab apart from those who are currently too young but even those have said they'll get it when it's offered.

 

They know I haven't had the jab and my reasons for not having it and to be fair they have all been understanding about it, saying that I've worked with these guys for years and if the boot was on the other foot I'd be exactly the same out of respect.

 

There's one or two who are dickheads and have only had the jab because they thought they would be able to go on Holiday and thought It was clever to try and take the piss out of me having to stay at home and got into a heated argument when I told them no matter what you do you won't be able to go 'just like me' unless you've had a test.

 

To cut a long story story short, those fcukers aren't laughing now and the guy's on the periphery of this argument who had also had the job but thought better of getting into a heated discussion with me are now telling me what I said is true.

 

That was back in March and I've found it's a lot easier to keep one step ahead of them by telling them what to expect before it happens as so far it's always come true.

 

The only fear I have, well not fear but uncertainty is when the Flu season comes around again in the Autumn and the deaths start rising, I've pre-warned them that it will be the unvaxxed like me taking the blame when the vaxxed start falling over.

I've told them I've never been a risk to any of you all my life during all the years we've worked together so why should that change now, If you think it's because of a Vaccination then what does that tell you?

 

At the end of the day, I live in greater Manchester by the way which is another story if you read todays papers where it seems we are in dire need of military help, at the end of the day the unvaxxed should be dying by the bucket load, how can you push so fervently for a Vaccine when when the number of deaths are virtually zilch on both sides of the divide, the mind boggles yet people are still queuing up so they say to get a shot.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if the North wests numbers are not as great as they are making out hence all the current scare mongering.

 

As mentioned, I think when we hit Autumn and the flu season the fun and games are going to begin, let's cross that bridge when we come to it and not spoil the summer and current lovely infection free weather.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Velma said:

'Freedom Day to be delayed by a fortnight to allow over-fifties to get vaccinated and give time for it to take effect.

 

https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/08/freedom-day-on-june-21-set-for-two-week-delay-after-grim-covid-briefing-14736212/

 

So predictable, but what a lame excuse, the over-fifties are not even vulnerable. So when will it all end?

 

How long is a piece of string?

I'm not sure any one still sentient thought they were gonna go back to 'normal' on the 21st. The sheep will just swallow this, and be further primed by the media to blame on us unclean types.

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5 hours ago, Dazzer said:

Good God...

I'm telling you, people are so invested in covid they'd be gutted if it was all over tomorrow. I get the feeling that they enjoy being 'part' of something and think that they're 'doing their bit', something that has been brought on by social media if you ask me. 

 

 

Chained Elephant Syndrome

 

Also known as the chained elephant syndrome, it describes a person who is conditioned at a young age to believe that he has no power to overcome limitations, real or imagined. And so he grows up never really trying to be more than what he is or to do more.

This is based on how men have controlled captive elephants over the years. Trainers have observed that when the calves are tethered with ropes or chains, the animals will eventually get used to the idea that they are simply too weak to break free.

 

 

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2 hours ago, blowonthepie said:

 

I know; it’s all very strange. 

Why are you/we the so called odd ones out; why don’t we believe the so called official narrative?

 

Its not easy, but I’d rather be like me, than be like them.

They believe because its far easier to be told what to believe than to think for themselves,as a species we are inherently lazy and willing to take the path of least resistance every time,especially when it is whittled down to easily understood soundbites

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2 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

They believe because its far easier to be told what to believe than to think for themselves,as a species we are inherently lazy and willing to take the path of least resistance every time,especially when it is whittled down to easily understood soundbites

 

I agree with you one hundred percent.

 

There have always been those you described above, but I believe they are far more numerous these days.

 

When this bs started, I thought there was no way most people would believe it; they would take no notice and get on with it; was I wrong!

 

The propaganda machine spewed it’s lies and the masses mainly fell for it; such an eye opener!

 

It still sometimes shocks me.

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30 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

Chained Elephant Syndrome

 

Also known as the chained elephant syndrome, it describes a person who is conditioned at a young age to believe that he has no power to overcome limitations, real or imagined. And so he grows up never really trying to be more than what he is or to do more.

This is based on how men have controlled captive elephants over the years. Trainers have observed that when the calves are tethered with ropes or chains, the animals will eventually get used to the idea that they are simply too weak to break free.

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

Chained Elephant Syndrome

 

Also known as the chained elephant syndrome, it describes a person who is conditioned at a young age to believe that he has no power to overcome limitations, real or imagined. And so he grows up never really trying to be more than what he is or to do more.

This is based on how men have controlled captive elephants over the years. Trainers have observed that when the calves are tethered with ropes or chains, the animals will eventually get used to the idea that they are simply too weak to break free.

 

 

 

It didn't work on this elephant who fought back against its abusers (WARNING - this video is a bit graphic. Doesn't end well for Tyke the elephant and one of his trainers. And a few other people were injured)https://www.peta.org/features/tyke-elephant-video-death/

but you're right - these sort of techniques do seem to work on most people/animals.

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4 hours ago, joey_j said:

Had a similar situation today. My manager, 30 years old had his first jab last week and was ill all over the weekend with symptoms worse than covid. Told him last week he was crazy and I would not be getting it. Held my tongue on our team call this morning but someone later brought up the introduction of vaccine passports and how they would be a good idea to get people back to the office. At this point I couldn't hold it in anymore and accused them of supporting medical tyranny and they looked at me like I was the crazy one.

 

Suffice to say I hope we are never to return to the office if this is what the majority of people seem to think. I don't even want to be around these people anymore, they are completely deranged and brainwashed and I will never look at people the same again.

 

 

 

 

I get what you mean...its hard to fathom that people are so thick. I know many dont look into anything they just watch the News...and some I have spoken to are genuinely shocked when you say what you think....its like you have brought out an axe ready to hatchet them. But if you keep saying that its all there on the government websites and yet they wont tell you, you have to go looking. I did this yesterday as I had to get some bloodwork done....a lady said after wide eyedly listening to me " Theres something else going on isnt there"  I said ''oh most definitely - the gestapo rises again''...and went in for my appointment. At least it gave her something to think about. 

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13 minutes ago, BossCrow said:

 

It didn't work on this elephant who fought back against its abusers (WARNING - this video is a bit graphic. Doesn't end well for Tyke the elephant and one of his trainers. And a few other people were injured)https://www.peta.org/features/tyke-elephant-video-death/

 

 

I think it explains what is happening right now... people are being conditioned...to the point where they feel they MUST keep doing what the conditioning got them to do.  I think eventually what happened to Tyke will be what happens to people who cannot bear the thought that they cannot break free...even if it is simply the conditioning making them think it. Some will literally go insane either with classic insanity symptoms, go on killing rages or commit suicide. They think there is no way out and nothing they can do to stop it. The ''Nothing'' takes over Fantasia.

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As much as i despise twitter its nice to know #takeoffthemask keeps trending,the comments are a perfect example of the lunacy with a mixture of genuine positive comments to the germophobes who are fearful of their own species plus a mix of 77 brigade and collaborators comments of course

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