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On 6/7/2021 at 1:56 AM, Echo said:

This must have been asked many times but is there one resource page for everything to with COVID and vaccines etc. that is not tainted with the MSM? It’s hard searching through this forum.

For instance today I was telling someone the Covid vaccine had killed more people than all the other vaccines combined in the last 20 years. 

When I try and search this on a search engine everything is ‘fact-checked’ etc and I only find articles from MSM. I cannot find one article to substantiate this. 

It would be so useful to have one resource page I can go to. 

 Hi Echo,

 

Off the top of my head I check these sites regularly to monitor the harms of the covid hoax and death jab.

 

https://healthimpactnews.com/

https://www.vernoncoleman.org/articles

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender

https://covid-unmasked.net/

https://thecovidblog.com/

https://www.naturalnews.com/index.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/

https://covidcalltohumanity.org/

https://humansarefree.com/category/vaccines

https://vaccines.mercola.com/

https://archive.org/details/frontline-workers-testimonies-news-reports-vaers-data-16-may-2021/mode/2up

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gVLI6Y6e5mDfu0_7qc0Ozw1GkM69-CIC/view

 

I hope this helps.

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On 6/7/2021 at 6:05 AM, Grumpy Owl said:

This concept of 'asymptomatic transmission' didn't exist prior to 2020, as far as I am concerned. And I still believe that it doesn't.

Quite... least we forget this little gem

 

A mass screening programme of more than 10 million Wuhan residents identified 300 asymptomatic cases, but none were infectious.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201130131511.htm

https://nationalfile.com/what-new-study-of-10-million-chinese-finds-asymptomatic-covid-spread-never-existed/

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On 6/7/2021 at 9:13 AM, Roscommon said:

I still think the best ones are those who drive around in a car themselves but still wear a mask.

 

What do they think, they're protecting themselves from themselves????

 

Your comment reminded me of this little incident.

VIDEO: Oregon teacher flips out at anti-mask protestors, shouting 'I'm a f***ing teacher!'

 

 

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On 6/7/2021 at 11:15 AM, Prometheus said:

Weird, all these new viruses popping up in the past 50 years, since the science of virology became powerful.

In *some* respect it's because humans have moved in on nature like never before in history and also housing creatures together that would never normally meet (wet markets etc) - a festering stew of potential mutating zoonotic pathogens.

 

In saying that I personally believe HIV was man made but not a mass cull of humanity; specifically targeted the great unwanted of the 80s; gays and junkies in the West and Africans

 

(There are two major types of the human immunodeficiency virus. HIV-1, which was discovered first, is the most widespread type worldwide. HIV-2 is more than 55% genetically different from HIV-1.

HIV-2 is most common in western Africa and is becoming more common in India, although numbers there are still relatively small. Small numbers of cases have also been seen in Portugal, France, other European countries including the UK and the Americas, largely in individuals of west African origin or their sexual partners.)

 

I initially bought into the corona hoax because it is quite probable that a new pathogen could mutate in those hideous wet markets in Asia, Middle East and Africa..... didn't take me long to get a sudden dread that "The New World Order" wasn't just a conspiracy I'd read lots about over the years- it was real and the bastards had actually pulled the trigger on the global police state and mandatory jabs😟

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GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITION ON VACCINATING CHILDREN. sorry it’s a bit long but confirms what we already knew

 

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Do not vaccinate children against COVID-19 until Phase 3 trials are complete”.

Government responded:

The Government will continue to evaluate evidence and assess expert opinion before making a decision on routinely vaccinating children under 18 years old.

No decision has been made by the Government regarding the routine inclusion of children under 18 years within the COVID-19 vaccination programme at a population level. The Government will be guided by the advice of the UK’s independent medicines regulator, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), whose role is to ensure medicines, devices and vaccines work effectively and are safe for use. 
MHRA have now authorised the use of Pfizer/ BioNTech vaccine in children aged 12-15. This follows a rigorous review of the safety, quality and effectiveness of the vaccine in this age group by the MHRA and the Government’s independent advisory body, the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM). Over 2,000 children aged 12-15 years were studied as part of the randomised, placebo-controlled clinical trials. There were no cases of COVID-19 from 7 days after the second dose in the vaccinated group, compared with 16 cases in the placebo group. In addition, data on neutralising antibodies showed the vaccine working at the same level as seen in adults aged 16-25 years. No new side effects were identified and the safety data in children was comparable with that seen in young adults. As in young adults, the majority of adverse events were mild to moderate and relating to reactogenicity, such as a sore arm or tiredness.

Any vaccine must first go through the usual rigorous testing and development process and meet strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness before it can be deployed. There are extensive checks and balances at every stage of the development of a vaccine. The data looked at includes all the results from laboratory studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls and testing of the product. The public should be very confident that all tests are completed to the very highest standards.

For all vaccines authorised for supply in the UK, including COVID-19 vaccines, each candidate is assessed by teams of scientists and clinicians on a case by case basis and is only authorised once it has met robust standards of effectiveness, safety and quality set by MHRA.

Once a vaccine is approved for use in the UK, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), an independent body made up of scientific and clinical experts, will provide advice to the Government on which safe, effective vaccines to use, and advise on prioritisation at a population level. The committee’s membership is made up of public health and scientific experts who have considered and continue to consider the impact of COVID-19 and population prioritisation as new data emerges.

Now that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has been authorised for use in children aged 12-15 in the UK, we will be guided by the advice of experts, including the JCVI, on any potential deployment of COVID-19 vaccination in children under the age of 18. 

No decisions have been made by the Government on the routine COVID-19 vaccination of children. In line with the advice of the JCVI for Phase One of the vaccination programme, children/young adults aged 16-18 could be offered a vaccine if they have an underlying condition that put them at increased risk from COVID-19. However, the JCVI currently advises that children under 16 years of age, even if they are clinically extremely vulnerable (CEV), are at low risk of serious morbidity and mortality and given the absence of safety and efficacy data on COVID-19 vaccines, are not currently recommended for routine COVID-19 vaccination. 

Following infection, almost all children will also have asymptomatic infection or mild disease. Therefore, only children under 16 who are at very high risk of exposure and serious outcomes, such as those with severe neuro-disabilities that require residential care, may be considered for a COVID-19 vaccination. This is given the very high risk of exposure to infection and outbreaks in residential settings. Decisions to vaccinate such children should be made on a case by case basis, with consultation taking place between clinicians, parents/carers and children. The MHRA updated its authorisation guidance in relation to the currently approved vaccines in February to allow this approach.

The JCVI continues to look at the emerging evidence on COVID-19, and will offer further advice to the Government if and when evidence is found that routinely vaccinating children under 18 years old would further reduce overall mortality, morbidity and hospitalisation which is the overarching objective of the COVID-19 vaccination programme.

Department for Health and Social Care

 

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Stars including Billie Eilish and David Beckham are backing Unicef's plea to donate surplus vaccines to poor countries.

 

The celebrities have signed a letter (written by Jacob Rothschild) to the G7 group of rich countries asking them to donate 20% of their vaccines by August. What's the hurry guys? Desperately trying to meet your boss' Agenda 21 criteria?

 

"The pandemic will not be over anywhere until it is over everywhere," grovelled Beckham, while worshiping Mammon. He could buy poisonous vaccines for the entire Third World, with the money he spends on opulent luxuries alone.

 

The other sell-outs who have signed the letter include Andy Murray, Olivia Colman, Ewan McGregor, Liam Payne, Priyanka Chopra Jonas, Orlando Bloom, Katy Perry, Gemma Chan, Whoopi Goldberg, Claudia Schiffer and Chris Hoy.

 

Meet your new 'politicians' folks, speaking on you behalf and directing world affairs, like Billy Eilish and Laddie Gaga!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57394279

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11 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

In *some* respect it's because humans have moved in on nature like never before in history and also housing creatures together that would never normally meet (wet markets etc) - a festering stew of potential mutating zoonotic pathogens.

 

In saying that I personally believe HIV was man made but not a mass cull of humanity; specifically targeted the great unwanted of the 80s; gays and junkies in the West and Africans

 

(There are two major types of the human immunodeficiency virus. HIV-1, which was discovered first, is the most widespread type worldwide. HIV-2 is more than 55% genetically different from HIV-1.

HIV-2 is most common in western Africa and is becoming more common in India, although numbers there are still relatively small. Small numbers of cases have also been seen in Portugal, France, other European countries including the UK and the Americas, largely in individuals of west African origin or their sexual partners.)

 

I initially bought into the corona hoax because it is quite probable that a new pathogen could mutate in those hideous wet markets in Asia, Middle East and Africa..... didn't take me long to get a sudden dread that "The New World Order" wasn't just a conspiracy I'd read lots about over the years- it was real and the bastards had actually pulled the trigger on the global police state and mandatory jabs😟

 

I remember a time, before my time, when peasants shared their dwelling with their livestock. No Covid there!

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5 minutes ago, Velma said:

Stars including Billie Eilish and David Beckham are backing Unicef's plea to donate surplus vaccines to poor countries.

 

The celebrities have signed a letter (written by Jacob Rothschild) to the G7 group of rich countries asking them to donate 20% of their vaccines by August. What's the hurry guys? Desperately trying to meet your boss' Agenda 21 criteria?

 

"The pandemic will not be over anywhere until it is over everywhere," grovelled Beckham, while worshiping Mammon. He could buy poisonous vaccines for the entire Third World, with the money he spends on opulent luxuries alone.

 

The other sell-outs who have signed the letter include Andy Murray, Olivia Colman, Ewan McGregor, Liam Payne, Priyanka Chopra Jonas, Orlando Bloom, Katy Perry, Gemma Chan, Whoopi Goldberg, Claudia Schiffer and Chris Hoy.

 

Meet your new 'politicians' folks, speaking on you behalf and directing world affairs, like Billy Eilish and Laddie Gaga!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57394279

 

Bet Beckham hasn't had the jab or any of these celebs.

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On 6/7/2021 at 11:28 AM, whatthefoxhat said:

China still haven't forgiven the British empire for the opium wars

They teach their children the "Century of Humiliation" and the "Unequal Treaty" in the same way western kids are taught about WW11, Nazi Germany and the holocaust, but on spiritual level rather than academic.

China The Cake of Kings And Emperors ” Political Cartoon (1898) | The World  History Archive and Compendium

 

Their pride was more than butthurt and those Commies play the looong game.... the covid hoax, not the virus, but the hoax is totally linked to Chyna and the CCP - or should now be called the GCP: Global Communist Party.

 

The CCP's Global Lockdown Fraud

To:

Federal Bureau of Investigation
935 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20535

CC:

U.K. Security Service (MI5);
Australian Security Intelligence Organisation;
Canadian Security Intelligence Service;
Bundesnachrichtendienst;
U.S. Department of Justice

 

From:

Michael P. Senger, Attorney
Stacey A. Rudin, Attorney
Dr. Clare Craig, FRCPath
Retired Brig. Gen. Robert Spalding
Randy Hillier, MPP Lanark, Frontenac & Kingston
Francis Hoar, Barrister at Law
Sanjeev Sabhlok, PhD
Brian O’Shea
Maajid Nawaz
Simon Dolan

https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

 

eg;

1. Lockdowns Originated on the Order of Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, and Were Propagated Into Global Policy by the World Health Organization With Little Analysis or Logic

 

2. The Most Influential Institution for Covid-19 Models, Self-Described as “China’s Best Academic Partner in the West,” Has Been by Far the Most Alarmist and Inaccurate Covid-19 Modeler

 

11 Points and conclusion backed by evidence and references.

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28 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

In *some* respect it's because humans have moved in on nature like never before in history and also housing creatures together that would never normally meet (wet markets etc) - a festering stew of potential mutating zoonotic pathogens.

 

In saying that I personally believe HIV was man made but not a mass cull of humanity; specifically targeted the great unwanted of the 80s; gays and junkies in the West and Africans

 

(There are two major types of the human immunodeficiency virus. HIV-1, which was discovered first, is the most widespread type worldwide. HIV-2 is more than 55% genetically different from HIV-1.

HIV-2 is most common in western Africa and is becoming more common in India, although numbers there are still relatively small. Small numbers of cases have also been seen in Portugal, France, other European countries including the UK and the Americas, largely in individuals of west African origin or their sexual partners.)

 

I initially bought into the corona hoax because it is quite probable that a new pathogen could mutate in those hideous wet markets in Asia, Middle East and Africa..... didn't take me long to get a sudden dread that "The New World Order" wasn't just a conspiracy I'd read lots about over the years- it was real and the bastards had actually pulled the trigger on the global police state and mandatory jabs😟

They've been eating even weirder stuff in the past... Coronaviruses are airborne it's not some salmonella so all this story smells BS from the distance. I'm not expert like Bill but when food enters body most of parasites dies in stomach... I haven't hear about flu poisoning. 

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25 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

They teach their children the "Century of Humiliation" and the "Unequal Treaty" in the same way western kids are taught about WW11, Nazi Germany and the holocaust, but on spiritual level rather than academic.

China The Cake of Kings And Emperors ” Political Cartoon (1898) | The World  History Archive and Compendium

 

Their pride was more than butthurt and those Commies play the looong game.... the covid hoax, not the virus, but the hoax is totally linked to Chyna and the CCP - or should now be called the GCP: Global Communist Party.

 

The CCP's Global Lockdown Fraud

To:

Federal Bureau of Investigation
935 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20535

CC:

U.K. Security Service (MI5);
Australian Security Intelligence Organisation;
Canadian Security Intelligence Service;
Bundesnachrichtendienst;
U.S. Department of Justice

 

From:

Michael P. Senger, Attorney
Stacey A. Rudin, Attorney
Dr. Clare Craig, FRCPath
Retired Brig. Gen. Robert Spalding
Randy Hillier, MPP Lanark, Frontenac & Kingston
Francis Hoar, Barrister at Law
Sanjeev Sabhlok, PhD
Brian O’Shea
Maajid Nawaz
Simon Dolan

https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

 

eg;

1. Lockdowns Originated on the Order of Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, and Were Propagated Into Global Policy by the World Health Organization With Little Analysis or Logic

 

2. The Most Influential Institution for Covid-19 Models, Self-Described as “China’s Best Academic Partner in the West,” Has Been by Far the Most Alarmist and Inaccurate Covid-19 Modeler

 

11 Points and conclusion backed by evidence and references.

I think not only China but global elites planed this for ages. Eventually want another war with China or hell knows what. For sure it will make their wallets fat and most of us dead or miserable.

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42 minutes ago, Velma said:

Stars including Billie Eilish and David Beckham are backing Unicef's plea to donate surplus vaccines to poor countries.

 

The celebrities have signed a letter (written by Jacob Rothschild) to the G7 group of rich countries asking them to donate 20% of their vaccines by August. What's the hurry guys? Desperately trying to meet your boss' Agenda 21 criteria?

 

"The pandemic will not be over anywhere until it is over everywhere," grovelled Beckham, while worshiping Mammon. He could buy poisonous vaccines for the entire Third World, with the money he spends on opulent luxuries alone.

 

The other sell-outs who have signed the letter include Andy Murray, Olivia Colman, Ewan McGregor, Liam Payne, Priyanka Chopra Jonas, Orlando Bloom, Katy Perry, Gemma Chan, Whoopi Goldberg, Claudia Schiffer and Chris Hoy.

 

Meet your new 'politicians' folks, speaking on you behalf and directing world affairs, like Billy Eilish and Laddie Gaga!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57394279

Yet only 5000 people in Congo wanted the shot... Stars can donate their bodies to utilize spare vaccines.

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2 hours ago, alexa said:

Synthetic meat anyone ? Here we go :classic_rolleyes:

 

Time to ditch the burgers? Vegetarians and pescatarians are up to 73% less likely to develop severe Covid-19 than meat-eaters, study finds 

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Eating a plant-based diet reduced the risk of severe Covid-19, say the team from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, Maryland who looked into diet and Covid-19 severity.

 

Another box ticked by COVID-1984, funny that.  During 2019 the MSM were pushing the vegan agenda and then the New Normal & Great Reset arriives piggybacking on the Jackanory story of the Wuhan bat-snake-wet market/bio lab flu.

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10 hours ago, skitzorat said:

These numbers are only those they accept as jab deaths and side effects. Now imagine a political plot to count every death up to 60 days later with the jab being counted as jab death. The nubers would shoot up to a level worse than covid deaths. But they won't, that strategy was only used when it was for their power plan.

 

These deaths after the jab are far more worrying than the artificially elevated covid deaths for the simple reason that what we see here is merely a tiny tip of a massive iceberg.

 

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