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wideawake Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Quebec City Says it Will Isolate “Uncooperative” Citizens in Secret Corona Facility https://summit.news/2020/09/09/quebec-city-says-it-will-isolate-uncooperative-citizens-in-secret-corona-facility/ Thank you and that is where I'm heading in a couple days... f***ing dictators 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 9 hours ago, oddsnsods said: @zArk Dont think was me who posted. Only stats I can find on ventilators is this. ta odds thats a step beyond massive. thats similar to the written data i remember ... wicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Coronavirus: 'Waste and corruption on a cosmic scale': Plans for 10 million COVID-19 tests attacked The government's scientific advisory group earlier said mass testing could lead to a large number of false positive results. News reporter @EmilyMeeSky Leaked documents reportedly show the government plans to carry out up to 10 million coronavirus tests a day by early next year, but critics say the proposals represent "waste/corruption on a cosmic scale". The mass testing programme would cost £100bn - almost as much as the government spends on the NHS each year (£130bn) - according to a briefing memo seen by medical journal The BMJ. A separate document revealed there were plans to grow the UK's testing capacity from the current 350,000 a day to up to 10 million a day by early 2021. On Wednesday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced ambitious plans for millions of people to be tested for coronavirus every day, in what he characterised as the "Moonshot approach". These documents provide more detail on what the government hopes to achieve, including plans for private companies GSK, AstraZeneca, Serco and G4S to help carry out the proposals. But some scientists have already expressed doubts, while a memo published by the government's scientific advisory group (SAGE) last week warned mass testing could lead to an increased number of false positive results. Anthony Costello, a former World Health Organisation director and UCL professor, wrote on Twitter: "The PMs Moonshot nonsense (no science, feasibility, evidence) has been earmarked for £100bn, almost the entire NHS budget, w contracts for Astra, Serco and G4S. "This is waste/corruption on a cosmic scale." Others pointed out current problems with the existing test and trace programme, after people complained of having to travel hundreds of miles from home to take a test. "This plan transmits unbounded optimism, disregarding the enormous problems with the existing testing and tracing programmes," Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told The BMJ. "It focuses on only one part of the problem, testing, and says nothing about what will happen to those found positive, a particular concern given the low proportion of those who do adhere to advice to isolate - in part because of the lack of support they are offered." He added: "On the basis of what is presented here, this looks less like Apollo 11, which took Neil Armstrong to the moon successfully, and more like Apollo 13." Professor Jose Vazquez-Boland, chairman of infectious diseases, University of Edinburgh, was more optimistic about the plans. "The focus of testing currently remains on confirmation of suspected cases (people with symptoms), thus missing the point that most community transmission comes from those who are asymptomatic," he said. "Only a mass screening programme, such as this alternative plan announced by the prime minister, which involves the regular testing of all the population for asymptomatic transmitters, can keep COVID-19 under control and eventually lead to its eradication." In a document published on Friday, SAGE said the cheaper and faster tests needed for mass testing were less likely to be able to correctly identify positive and negatives than the tests currently used by NHS Test and Trace. It said that in a population with low infections, twice-weekly tests with 99% specificity would lead to 41% of the population receiving a false positive over six months. "In such circumstances, rapid follow-up confirmatory testing will be needed to determine whether individuals should continue to self-isolate - it is important to rapidly isolate infectious individuals, but efforts will be needed to quickly release false positives," it said. But the committee did say using testing as a point-of-entry requirements for particular settings, such as sporting events, could help these activities resume with a reduced risk of transmission, but would "require superb organisation and logistics with rapid, highly-sensitive tests". Under the plans, the Whitehall briefing memo says testing will be rolled out in workplaces, football stadiums, entertainment venues and also at GP surgeries, pharmacies, schools and other local sites. People will be given digital immunity passports that would allow those who test negative to take part in more normal activities. Those in high-risk occupations or who are more vulnerable - such as hospital staff, ethnic minority groups and teachers - would be prioritised for regular testing. The government is banking on technology that "currently does not exist", the briefing memo says, including a rapid 20-minute saliva test being piloted in Salford, Greater Manchester. Dr David Strain, clinical senior lecturer at the University of Exeter and chairman of the BMA's medical academic staff committee, said this means the mass testing strategy is "fundamentally flawed". "The prime minister's suggestion that this will be as simple as 'getting a pregnancy test' that will give results within 15 minutes is unlikely, if not impossible, in the timescale he was suggesting to get the country back on track," he said. I guess they need to use up all those dodgy test kits they acquired in 2018 according to that WITS (World Integrated Trade Solution) website a couple of days back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) So, what I have been thinking for some time now starts to gain some traction if we do a bit of dot joining... Oakwise posts the video about sheep getting a nasal DNA test and then we have Number6 & Vinny posting the news from the government that they want to up the testing capacity to 10 MILLION A DAY by next year.... So to be clear on that, the government are looking to have the capability of TESTING THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN A WEEK. There's obviously many questions that come from this, but once you start asking WHY you start arriving at some answers, and I believe they want to have everyone's DNA on record as part of their "solution" .... And while I'm here, I happened to see this on a friend's TV the other night, gave me the absolute creeps, want to know what the future looks like? It's this... watch carefully... Edited September 10, 2020 by HAARPING_On Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Swedish experts claim vindication on COVID: Positive coronavirus test rate hits its lowest level yet with only 1.3% of Swedes who are swabbed found to have virus - despite an increase in testing https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8716335/Only-1-3-Swedes-tested-coronavirus-disease-19-height-pandemic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Blood/brain barrier and Covid test: https://christianobserver.net/covid-test-may-breach-the-blood-brain-barrier/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbiebrbr Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, HAARPING_On said: So, what I have been thinking for some time now starts to gain some traction if we do a bit of dot joining... Oakwise posts the video about sheep getting a nasal DNA test and then we have Number6 & Vinny posting the news from the government that they want to up the testing capacity to 10 MILLION A DAY by next year.... So to be clear on that, the government are looking to have the capability of TESTING THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN A WEEK. There's obviously many questions that come from this, but once you start asking WHY you start arriving at some answers, and I believe they want to have everyone's DNA on record as part of their "solution" .... And while I'm here, I happened to see this on a friend's TV the other night, gave me the absolute creeps, want to know what the future looks like? It's this... watch carefully... Oh my lord... They're not even hiding it LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Illmatic Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jack said: Good to see more celebs calling this shit out, especially ones as entertaining as LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Good to see more celebs calling this shit out, especially ones as entertaining as LG. sometimes i think the GOV do this on purpose to provoke reaction. These measures are extremely early. Hardly any deaths are happening Could the dissent be blamed for the stricter lockdowns coming up? Edited September 10, 2020 by Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jack said: sometimes i think the GOV do this on purpose to provoke reaction. These measures are extremely early. Hardly any deaths are happening Could the dissent be blamed for the stricter lockdowns coming up? You might be right, but if anyone wants to provoke a reaction it's probably all the lobbyists and corrupt NGOs behind this stuff. I genuinely think the likes of Boris don't have a clue what is really going on and thinks some sort of zero Covid push will win him favour in the long run. For some reason I am reminded of what happened when my city of Dublin was occupied by a group of rebels in 1916 and a new Irish Republic declared. The uncomfortable fact that doesn't get mentioned any more is that when those rebels got thrown in jail nobody really gave a shit, there had already been a long list of failed rebellions and the public had long since accepted living with the British occupation. It was only when the UK made the huge mistake of deciding to execute many of these rebels that people started to get angry. I think we're seeing the beginnings of something similar here with people realising how disgracefully anyone showing peaceful dissent is being treated by authorities. A tighter police state and possibly bringing in martial law won't make people any happier to comply, and thats ignoring the issue that they need to keep law enforcers on side for any of it to work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Illmatic said: You might be right, but if anyone wants to provoke a reaction it's probably all the lobbyists and corrupt NGOs behind this stuff. I genuinely think the likes of Boris don't have a clue what is really going on and thinks some sort of zero Covid push will win him favour in the long run. For some reason I am reminded of what happened when my city of Dublin was occupied by a group of rebels in 1916 and a new Irish Republic declared. The uncomfortable fact that doesn't get mentioned any more is that when those rebels got thrown in jail nobody really gave a shit, there had already been a long list of failed rebellions and the public had long since accepted living with the British occupation. It was only when the UK made the huge mistake of deciding to execute many of these rebels that people started to get angry. I think we're seeing the beginnings of something similar here with people realising how disgracefully anyone showing peaceful dissent is being treated by authorities. A tighter police state and possibly bringing in martial law won't make people any happier to comply, and thats ignoring the issue that they need to keep law enforcers on side for any of it to work. Boris again looked very uneasy yesterday. I think he has a little bit of compassion. and he's going to get sick again Other times he acts like a clown Edited September 10, 2020 by Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Illmatic Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jack said: Boris again looked very uneasy yesterday. I think he has a little bit of compassion. and he's going to get sick again Other times he acts like a clown Like any career politician he is a populist. Trying to keep his funders and closest political cronies happy and balance that with public perception. Unfortunately the game is not about serving the people it's about keeping yourself in office by any means necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) Jamie McIntyre - Must Watch: Edited September 10, 2020 by FrankVitali 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Me looking for real conservatives to vote for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, FrankVitali said: Jamie McIntyre - Must Watch: He was making perfect sense till he started on about Trump, then took a massive nose dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bamboozooka Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: He was making perfect sense till he started on about Trump, then took a massive nose dive. lol TDS still kicking in. i got a vaccine for that. oopps therapeutic my bad Edited September 10, 2020 by bamboozooka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Just now, bamboozooka said: i got a vaccine for that. Right on Q.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, epsom said: Can you explain why the World Bank were selling "Covid19" test kits, diagnostic test instruments and apparatus-----in 2018?. The term Covid19 was not known until the beginning of this year----it could NOT have been known in 2018--let alone test kits etc etc....unless we are not being told the truth about this. I think its along the lines of making markets for vaccines https://www.who.int/intellectualproperty/news/en/SubmissionBarder1.pdf governments committing to purchase products before they are created world bank (as national banks) keep records of all financial commitments i would like to see a time/date stamped copy of this page on a 3rd party website (e.g internet archive ) so that it can be cleared up ...i.e the financial commitment to buy testing kits in 2018 were not taken up and the financial commitment was re-assigned this year 2020 the original purchase name could have been ebola testing kits and they were not developed but the financial record was retained and in the last month or so has been reallocated to COVID19... it is very possible and a red herring for criticism of COVID19 policy i cant remember the last 'ha told you so ' by the zombies. the gov has not defended any accusation publically but its entirely possibly that this is another 'full disclosure' for the new contract being created for society and world systems --- silence equals agreement these social designers arent morons, they know how to hide information , this is veyr much out-there Edited September 10, 2020 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, HAARPING_On said: So, what I have been thinking for some time now starts to gain some traction if we do a bit of dot joining... eugenics above the current public agenda above and with eugenics is the new astrological age of Aquarius you have watched Corbet Report Meet Bill Gates ..right? Edited September 10, 2020 by zArk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidlittle Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, zArk said: I think its along the lines of making markets for vaccines https://www.who.int/intellectualproperty/news/en/SubmissionBarder1.pdf governments committing to purchase products before they are created world bank (as national banks) keep records of all financial commitments i would like to see a time/date stamped copy of this page on a 3rd party website (e.g internet archive ) so that it can be cleared up ...i.e the financial commitment to buy testing kits in 2018 were not taken up and the financial commitment was re-assigned this year 2020 the original purchase name could have been ebola testing kits and they were not developed but the financial record was retained and in the last month or so has been reallocated to COVID19... it is very possible but its entirely possibly that this is another 'full disclosure' for the new contract being created for society and world systems --- silence equals agreement these social designers arent morons, they know how to hide information , this is veyr much out-there the Uk column spent the first 3 minutes of Monday’s show dealing with this .. IMHO, way too much attention has been given to this . Seems to be a little bit of conspiracy candy put out there to distract. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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