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1 hour ago, whatthefoxhat said:

I have a friend who was involved in the international operation in the Balkans and he suffers from ptsd,amongst many other sights he witessed was a baby with downs syndrome nailed to a barn door,what level of depravity has humanity reached when that can occur in a seemingly (pre conflict) civilised society ?.I fear WE as a  species are about to be unleashed upon ourselves

We are about to be unleashed upon ourselves. In time, our own families will hand us over to the army/secret police and will celebrate our incarcerations and our deaths.

 

We who warned them and rejected the needle tried to steal their freedom. We all were deceived deceivers. The vaccinated were the brave ones with opened eyes, prepared to lay their lives down for the masses.

 

That's how history shall be recorded.

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seems some people go out of their way to cause aggro and friction, just tell your relatives you've had the cough jab. 

 

not like they're going to check, plus wear a lanyard when going to the shop rather than trying to start a punch up  with a frightened oldie.

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5 hours ago, sarbloh said:

 

Personally, I think people look very 'ill'. Their skin looks off, they have no 'sparkle' either. But its the skin thing too, especially on older folks. 

 

I was reading Che Guvara's Motorcycle Diaries, about his trip around south america whilst he was doing his medical degree. In the book, he spoke about the once proud people's he came across who were a hollow shadow of their pasts (Native americans, various tribes smashed by the Spanish etc). Once proud people who were just 'living-dead' now (he refers to them as ghost like)

 

I get this vibe with the Brits now, the Brexit thing looked like it instilled a bit of pride (false maybe) but that has gone now. I think in years to come, the Brits maybe as placid as the native americans or dare I say Chinese masses.

I would say the same thing, probably just my imagination but seems like they're washed out. I've been noticing it for a while. Apart from the fact that most of the people around me are complaining of fatigue all the time amongst the other side effects.

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15 hours ago, alexa said:

Yes I remember this, wasn't there a Chinese guy onboard who had the blueprints and was going to patent his new superconductor (the khepera, I think ??) And I remember the Rothschilds had something to do with the disappearance of plane.

 

Maybe it had something to do with today's nano chips who knows ?

 

there was a theory doing the rounds at the time that claimed that because of the death of the owners of the patent the ownership would revert to the rothschilds which snopes admits is essentially correct:

 

Freescale is a public company whose stock is held, in part, by 152 different institutional shareholders. The Blackstone Group, at which Jacob Rothschild serves as a member of the company’s International Advisory Board, is one of the largest of those institutional holders (with over 196 million shares), but the Carlyle Group and TPG Group Holdings both own a number of Freescale shares equal to that held by Blackstone.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mh370-patent-disappearance/

 

Where snopes is missing the point of course is that blackstone, carlyle group etc are all part of the same cabal owned network

 

I don't know however if there is a link between the downed flight, the patents and the current scarcity issue of superconductors

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4 hours ago, Sensiblejoe said:

I have to admit I hardly know anyone who has not had the vaccine yet around my circles. I feel like a loner and when I have given my reasons for rejecting it, I just get that are you insane look back and people usually step a few steps back from me as if I have the plague. So I will do my best to avoid any conversation about vaccines and covid in general now. Just concentrate on my own path whatever that maybe. 

Ditto

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A friend who is an organic sheep farmer told me this evening had taken first JAB (despite sending various information to them) she said don’t think the government would lie to the public. A friend in Manchester area said he taken both pricks as have his parents and he feels terrible and don’t wish to be alive (had also sent various information from different sources) A business contact in Cheshire talking about taking the JAB. I am coming to the decision to stop wasting time on fools and concentrate on the future in a world with less people and more sick people dropping dead. Stressed as was told as a child to care about people and treat them well but seems impossible to stop the brainwashing from those with TV’s.  

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23 hours ago, wingwang said:

 

Well done you. May I ask how you persuaded people? My attempts to persuade has fallen on deaf ears with deflection, propaganda repeating and denial the main rebuttals. Everyone I speak to who goes along with the narrative seems to have a closed mind and not a critical thinking mind.

 

I will see if can find all the links and post on here. I also send some horrific pictures of the medical injuries and told friends will never be able to visit the house and was nice to have known them such a long time but would not attend a funeral. Harsh words but this is a race to stop them.  

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22 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

there was a theory doing the rounds at the time that claimed that because of the death of the owners of the patent the ownership would revert to the rothschilds which snopes admits is essentially correct:

 

Freescale is a public company whose stock is held, in part, by 152 different institutional shareholders. The Blackstone Group, at which Jacob Rothschild serves as a member of the company’s International Advisory Board, is one of the largest of those institutional holders (with over 196 million shares), but the Carlyle Group and TPG Group Holdings both own a number of Freescale shares equal to that held by Blackstone.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mh370-patent-disappearance/

 

Where snopes is missing the point of course is that blackstone, carlyle group etc are all part of the same cabal owned network

 

I don't know however if there is a link between the downed flight, the patents and the current scarcity issue of superconductors

Aye, probably preaching to the mosque here, but Snopes is a bag-o-shite. One can pretty much assume the opposite of what those cunts say eh. 

 

Not to take anything away from your conclusion, Mac.

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45 minutes ago, eddy64 said:

seems some people go out of their way to cause aggro and friction, just tell your relatives you've had the cough jab. 

 

not like they're going to check, plus wear a lanyard when going to the shop rather than trying to start a punch up  with a frightened oldie.

 

How about they take the masks off or better yet lock themselves in their homes where they can watch bbc all day.

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2 hours ago, LightandLove said:

I would say the same thing, probably just my imagination but seems like they're washed out. I've been noticing it for a while. Apart from the fact that most of the people around me are complaining of fatigue all the time amongst the other side effects.

 

we've been washed out before...

 

“You have learned by actual experience how different freedom is from slavery. Hence, although some among you may previously, through ignorance of which was better, have been deceived by the alluring promises of the Romans, yet now that you have tried both, you have learned how great a mistake you made in preferring an imported despotism to your ancestral mode of life, and you have come to realize how much better is poverty with no master than wealth with slavery.

let us, I say, do our duty while we still remember what freedom is, that we may leave to our children not only its appellation but also its reality.

For, if we utterly forget the happy state in which we were born and bred, what, pray, will they do, reared in bondage?”

“All this I say, not with the purpose of inspiring you with a hatred of present conditions – that hatred you already have – nor with fear for the future – that fear you already have – but of commending you because you now of our own accord choose the requisite course of action, and of thanking you for so readily cooperating with me and with each other.

Let us show them that they are hares and foxes trying to rule over dogs and wolves.”

-Boudicca’s Speech to Her Warriors Ad 61

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UK scientists admit to using ‘ethically questionable’ fear tactics in COVID response

The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable,’ one unnamed scientist said.

Thu May 20, 2021

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May 20, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — A scientific advisory committee in Britain has expressed “regret” in a newly released book which outlines the group’s use of “dystopian” fear tactics to influence public behavior following the outbreak of COVID-19.

The Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behavior, or SPI-B for short, is a sub-committee of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) that advised SAGE on the role of psychology in nudging the British public into complying with government lockdown measures. SAGE, in turn, advises government ministers, wresting far-reaching influence on public policy.

On the back of SPI-B advice, SAGE issued guidance to the U.K. government, as they locked down the country last March, advising that they would need to couple their actions with a targeted fear campaign to ramp up the “perceived level of personal threat” from the virus. This would help the government to control “a substantial number of people” who were thought to “not feel sufficiently personally threatened,” according to SPI-B.

Journalist and author Laura Dodsworth, in her latest publication A State of Fear, documents “how the U.K. government weaponised fear during the COVID-19 pandemic.” The book features the testimony of SPI-B members who admit that the tactics used by the group were tantamount to “totalitarianism.”

“Fear is the most powerful emotion,” Dodsworth’s website states. “Hardwired into humans, fear is … one of the most powerful tools in the behavioural psychology toolbox and it has been used to manipulate and control people during the pandemic.”

An unnamed SPI-B member explained to Dodsworth that “[i]n March [2020] the Government was very worried about compliance, and they thought people wouldn’t want to be locked down. There were discussions about fear being needed to encourage compliance, and decisions were made about how to ramp up the fear.”

 

“The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable,” the source continued. “It’s been like a weird experiment. Ultimately, it backfired because people became too scared. The way we have used fear is dystopian.”

SPI-B psychologist Gavin Morgan told Dodsworth that “using fear as a means of control is not ethical. Using fear smacks of totalitarianism. It’s not an ethical stance for any modern government.” Morgan related that, in spite of his normally optimistic outlook on life, seeing the government implement fear tactics to control the population “has given me a more pessimistic view of people.”

Morgan’s colleague Dr. Harrie Bunker-Smith explained the bait-and-switch maneuver employed by Prime Minister Boris Johnson with lockdown restrictions, turning them on and off seemingly at whim, and always with a new justification.

“Abusers will say they won’t do something again, but then they keep doing it. Abuse is not constant; it’s not bad all the time. You have periods of extreme abuse followed by the honeymoon period, where you get flowers and apologies and promises, and then things deteriorate again,” Bunker-Smith said.

Another member of the team described the psychology work of SPI-B as “mind control.” “That’s what we do … clearly we try and go about it in a positive way, but it has been used nefariously in the past.”

Another still admitted to being “stunned by the weaponisation of behavioural psychology” over the last year, lamenting that fellow “psychologists didn’t seem to notice when it stopped being altruistic and became manipulative. They have too much power and it intoxicates them.”

 

LifeSiteNews spoke to Heritage Party leader David Kurten, an outspoken critic of the Conservative government’s handling of affairs related to COVID-19 from the onset of the coronavirus crisis.

“‘A State of Fear’ is essential reading,” Kurten advised, lauding its explanation of how the “U.K. government has waged a psychological war against the people of the country, ramping up fear of a virus that is no worse than a bad flu to destroy our fundamental freedoms.”

“Their strategy of threatening arrest, fines, and imprisonment for doing normal things like meeting friends in a park or having a dinner party, while simultaneously using mainstream media to smear, denigrate and stir up hatred towards non-conformists is odious and totalitarian,” Kurten scathed.

He noted the recent local election outcomes within the U.K., which saw the ruling parties, responsible for imposing fear-driven lockdowns, increase their vote share: “It is shocking that they have destroyed the liberty which generations of our forefathers have fought and died for. It is just as shocking that the majority of people have succumbed and capitulated to these fear mongering techniques with so little resistance, and even voted in greater numbers in recent elections for the ruling parties in England, Wales and Scotland which have been perpetrating the propaganda.”

“It is clear to any with eyes to see that they have manipulated citizens into accepting lockdowns and mass injections of experimental mRNA,” continued Kurten.

“Now they are on the next phase of the plan to increase acceptance of a Chinese Communist Party style Digital Identity control system. They have used all the tactics of a psychological abuser as laid out in Biderman’s Chart of Coercion which is a blueprint for abuse.”

 

Mail on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens is one of vanishingly few voices in British establishment media to have consistently written skeptically about the Johnson regime’s COVID strategy. For some months, Hitchens has been drawing attention to an excerpt from an interview with Neil Ferguson, the man behind the modelling that predicted millions of deaths from COVID-19 and essentially launched worldwide lockdown measures.

They thought they couldn’t get away with Maoist repression. Then they discovered that they could. pic.twitter.com/BfQ9ewDdGv
— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) December 30, 2020

In the interview, Ferguson draws attention to China’s strategy of mass repression “to flatten the curve,” but admits his hesitancy that such measures could be implemented in non-communist countries. “We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought,” Ferguson said. “And then Italy did it. And we realised we could.”

 

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1 hour ago, Dickwan said:

Aye, probably preaching to the mosque here, but Snopes is a bag-o-shite. One can pretty much assume the opposite of what those cunts say eh. 

 

Not to take anything away from your conclusion, Mac.

 

yeah snopes is clownworld but the point i'm making is that even asshat clowns like snopes have to admit that there is some truth to the conspiracy theory that was going around. They just try and spin it to try and make it seem like there is less fire behind the smoke then there really is

 

If even the most disingenuous of propaganda machines has to admit something....

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https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/has-quebec-reached-freedom-75-per-cent-not-so-fast/wcm/c6159fa2-6219-4be0-8917-d725bef44c67/amp/

 

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This is textbook incitement to hatred. Incitement to hatred is recognized in most countries as a criminal offence. This mental association between freedom and vaccine uptake percentages is meant to incite homicidal hatreds aagainst those sabotaging a return of freedom, the non conformists.

 

Back when Rwanda had become a theatre of butchery between Hutus and Tutsis I read many commentaries that said this hatred was driven by the local media. Watching them set up genocide in covid and the use of media to direct homicidal passions against a social non conformity again.

 

Blackmail, extortion, incitements to hatred, fraud, torture, high treason. 

 

Dangling carrots of freedom to obtain compliance to acts that are tantamount to suicide or grievous bodily injury in vax. Kill yourself or no more freedom. A catch-22 of the most nefarious flavor.

 

We are in the eye of the covid hurricane. In the eye you are psychologically manipulated to let down your guard and really feel the worst is over. Without this psychological conditioning removing freedoms again would lack contrast.

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These fvckers always bring up WW2 when it suits them, but then it all goes quiet as they carry on shitting on the legacy of those that fought by targetting their descendants with demographic replacement. They didn't fight so we could be bossed about by you, or did they? Brood of vipers.

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34 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

These fvckers always bring up WW2 when it suits them, but then it all goes quiet as they carry on shitting on the legacy of those that fought by targetting their descendants with demographic replacement. They didn't fight so we could be bossed about by you, or did they? Brood of vipers.

He is insane. I have never heard of this non entity. A simple google search and he is a columnist and It brings up his twitter feed. What a sad life he must lead. 

 

He is probably on the payroll and shilling either that or trolling what he may see as "the conspiracy anti vax nutters". He was described by someone as "David camerons favourite columnist". 

 

Either way that is gaslighting. I clicked on a james o brien video earlier god knows why listened to about 1 minute of it and he was saying something like "an infantile attitude of not wanting to be told what to do". Lol. 

 

Either way its clear to see he is a pathological force. If he has brought into the covidion cult and this is all his views and not the editors or someone higher up, it speaks volumes of the type of mentality we are up against. 

 

Looking at it logically if i wasn't aware of alternative information, and I wasn't fussed either way about getting the jab, I'd like to think the creepy fetish these perverts, and they are perverts have on insisting we all get jabbered.. might put me off. So in an alternate universe where I might have no problem getting the jab i might say "you know what i was happy to get jabbed, but with the constant pushing and promoting of the vaccine i am starting to get a bit suspicious of the whole thing..

 

Whats worrying is seemingly intelligent folks don't seem to see that or refuse to. Everything from celebrity campaign ads, to everything else. It is creepy isn't it how desperate they are. 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Anti Facts Sir said:

Hodges is the son of a former Labour MP, I think. May be Glenda Jackson. So, born into the "family" and knows the system.

No surprises there then. 

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