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1 hour ago, ink said:

 

It does seem that way currently but sadly we have not, as yet, stopped them!

 

If anyone has not seen the UK channel 4, 2013-14 first version then I suggest this thread where all the links are and a couple of clips.

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/10244-new-series-just-released-on-amazon-prime-utopia/

 

 

I watched the US version which entertaining was absolutely nothing like the original and lo and behold they canelled it ,Now the cynic in me says it was cancelled because it was just a bit too near the knuckle in the current climate but maybe they cancelled because of low viewing figures (tongue in cheek at this point)

 

I rewatched series 1 & 2 recently and its even more apt now

 

And just because i can heres my favourite clip from the UK version

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Dazzer said:

Unfortunately not mate, some of them have been using the site for 10+ years. 

 

cyberwarfare has been going on that long

 

there was a notorious shill on the old forum who was also active on football forums

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Just now, whatthefoxhat said:

The internets whole being was based on cyberwarfare nowts changed

 

The Pentagon's shadow army: 60K-strong secret force with $900B budget is operating across the globe specializing in cutting-edge 'signature reduction' espionage methods, new report claims

  • The Pentagon has amassed a secret, 60,000-strong undercover army to carry out domestic and foreign assignments, a new investigation has revealed 
  • The force is reportedly more than 10 times the size of the CIA's clandestine operation and includes military and civilian agents 'in real life and online'
  • The agents are 'trained to create secret identities for themselves, make disguises, and can assume fake identities online to pursue high value targets'
  • The digital sleuths can even manipulate biometric databases of foreign Governments so agents can pass fingerprint checks under false identities 
  • Newsweek says the force is part of a new front in covert warfare using a little-known espionage known as 'signature reduction'
  • Signature reduction gives the US deniability on sensitive missions and allows soldiers, civilians and contractors to work under false identities 
  • While signature reduction operatives are rarely outed, intelligence agents point to the 2013 arrest of American 'diplomat' Ryan Fogle in Moscow as one such case

By Bevan Hurley For Dailymail.Com

Published: 04:31, 18 May 2021 | Updated: 14:20, 18 May 2021

The Pentagon has been operating a secret 60,000-strong undercover army made up of soldiers, civilians and contractors who work under fake identities to carry out undercover domestic and overseas missions, according to a Newsweek investigation.  

The force includes NSA agents, cyber security experts and special forces operating behind hostile enemy lines in places like North Korea and Iran. It is serviced by around 130 private companies and supported by dozens of secretive government agencies at an annual cost of $900million, according to the report. 

The true size of the force of undercover operatives, which is completely unregulated and has never been the subject of Congressional oversight, is unknown. However, after a two year investigation, Newsweek says it is 10 times the size of the CIA's clandestine forces and has grown substantially in the past decade.

Its 60,000 members include cyber warriors who use false personas online to search for 'high-value targets'.  

The 'army' operates in an amorphous new area of combat known as 'signature reduction', which is largely undefined but is a term used to describe the extreme measures taken to protect undercover operatives and operations.  

It involves, in part, creating false documentation and disguises to paying the bills and taxes of agents while they are operating under their fake identities. It also involves building high-tech and undetectable devices that agents can use to photograph or listen in on activities in remote sections of the world. 

A Department of Defense spokesperson told Newsweek that 'signature reduction' 'is not an official term'. The Defense Intelligence Agency says it could be described as 'operational security (OPSEC) measures for a variety of activities and operations'.  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589975/Pentagon-charge-60-000-strong-secret-army-undercover-operatives.html

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16 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Er no.....it isn't. :classic_rolleyes:

 

Vaccines have a denatured or weakened version of the virus, which will allow your body to make anti-bodies but not actually make you sick. People who take the TB vaccine don't get TB, people who take the tetanus vaccine don't develop tetanus.

 

At least that's how it used to be.

 

Now of course, they're playing a different game.

 

Even a weakened or denatured virus is still a virus. If the person's immune system has been compromised in some way a weak unusual virus could obviously cause problems.

As we all know every single piece of gov 'advice' has only one aim; to weaken the human immune system. Not one of their diktat's has a beneficial effect on our overall health.

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1 hour ago, Sit down, Waldo said:

Some days I just lose the will. Apologies if this crap's been posted already. From the Independent...

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/this-is-what-we-do-about-anti-vaxxers-no-job-no-entry-no-nhs-access/ar-BB1gRPNy?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAnZ9Ug

If only 10% say no,  that is nearly 7,000,000 British people, many of them younger generations. 

Don't  lose hope yet.

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On 5/17/2021 at 11:49 PM, Macnamara said:

 

have a listen and see what you think:

Dr. Humphries on tetanus, immunity and epigenetics

Interesting talk. Didn't really tell me anything I didn't know and my cousin still died of tetanus after an injury at work (agriculture). But it was a long time ago.

 

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Just now, Outsider said:

Even a weakened or denatured virus is still a virus. If the person's immune system has been compromised in some way a weak unusual virus could obviously cause problems.

And for sure will be detected by PCR tests... Even if a person is 'asymptomatic'... Which nicely add up to covid stats... ;)

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2 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Even a weakened or denatured virus is still a virus. If the person's immune system has been compromised in some way a weak unusual virus could obviously cause problems.

 

Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill.


It isn't. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill.


It isn't.

 

the point of a vaccine is to inject aluminium into your muscle

 

when aluminium is injected into muscle it bypasses the bodies usual defence mechanisms. For example if you eat or drink aluminium it will pass through the body and out again but if aluminium is injected into muscle it provokes the body into an immune response

 

This immune response involves macrophages swallowing up the aluminium and those macrophages are able to cross the blood brain barrier

 

Once in the brain aluminium is able to affect gene expression causing all kinds of problems such as autoimmune disorders. Aluminium also accumulates in the brain causing autism

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Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill.


It isn't. 

 

 

And why you think so? On what base you think they don't want to make you ill?

Because I think adding fertilizers and other poisons not necessary weakens only the virus.

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40 minutes ago, vinny79 said:

Another person who I know of has now died.

 

Had two jabs.

 

Maybe a coincidence but this person was in good health as recently as Christmas.


that’s 2, plus another one out of hospital after two weeks in

 

R.i.p to them.

I worry about friends and family now.

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17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill.


It isn't. 

 

 

Agree normally it isn't, but I would hazard a guess that each and everyone of us is now walking around with a less efficient immune system than we had in 2019. Again a guess but I would think that if we were given any form of vaccine now our bodies would have more issues dealing with it than in pre covid times.

Maybe the social distancing served a dual purpose, it prevented direct verbal and physical connection with our fellow humans but also stopped our bodies communicating with each other in a way we weren't consciously aware of.

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18 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the point of a vaccine is to inject aluminium into your muscle

 

This isn't true either. 

 

It may be what they are doing now, but it is not part of the principle of inoculation developed by Edward Jenner.

 

 

 

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Small pox used to be a real problem, the word vaccine actually comes from the word Vache or cow, which was a transmitter of smallpox.

 

It's said that smallpox killed 10% of the world's population on average prior to Edward Jenner's development of a denatured inoculation of the smallpox virus. 

 

 

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Just now, Outsider said:

Agree normally it isn't, but I would hazard a guess that each and everyone of us is now walking around with a less efficient immune system than we had in 2019. Again a guess but I would think that if we were given any form of vaccine now our bodies would have more issues dealing with it than in pre covid times.

iv seen videos of this ''vaccine'' under the microscope.....nano particles attach to cells and force the cells to join together (clot).  Healthy people with perfectly fine working bodies have more chance of been affected badly than people who for example drink heavy or smoke heavy.....a good working body will try and get rid of this toxic nano...the nano tech is designed to trick your cells..so clear headed cells mean clear headed disaster.

 

our bodies will deal with it the same as all times.2019 or 2021

 

........the lucky people are the ones whos bodies are easily tricked

 

People are fucked......our enemy is the PASSPORT........

 

if this vaccine passport get passed.....the children of tomorrow have fucked it.

 

we need to fight this.

 

we have to fight this!

 

let the heard inject themselves, they are obviously moronic. we can not allow this passport take hold

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2 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

This isn't true either. 

 

It may be what they are doing now, but it is not part of the principle of inoculation developed by Edward Jenner.

 

it is absolutely true in terms of what the people who decided to put aluminium into the vaccines see the point of the injections being; they know what the aluminium does and in order to stop the public understanding it they have sought to shut down research into that area:

Keele University Cancels All Aluminum Research after Scientist Links Aluminum in Vaccines to Human Health Problems

Global Research, April 02, 2021
Vaccine Injury News 30 March 2021

The UK’s prestigious Keele University is suddenly shutting down the work of world-renowned aluminum expert, Christopher Exley, Ph.D. Keele is aggressively blocking donations for aluminum research and suppressing any science that exposes the toxic side of the vaccine industry.

University officials shut down Exley’s website and are actively blocking any charitable funds to his research team. These philanthropic funds have been used for nearly four decades to support Exley’s research on the bio-inorganic chemistry of aluminum and to better understand aluminum’s role in neurodegenerative diseases. Exley’s passion is “to understand aluminum in all living things” and to show how aluminum’s impact on human health represents “the greatest untold story of science.” Exley’s work has been cited in Alzheimer’s research, among other important public health issues. His research group has published important scientific insights in more than 200 peer-reviewed publications.

Brave researcher is targeted and suppressed for work on aluminum toxicity and vaccines

Aluminum is Christopher Exley’s life work, and Keele University has supported it for multiple decades, but something has been changing over the past five years. According to a chapter in Exley’s 2020 book, “Imagine You Are an Aluminum Atom: Discussions with Mr. Aluminum,” the institutional environment at Keele University shifted “abruptly” about five years ago. Along with a major overhaul in the senior management, the University began to accept major donations from new sources and gave the pharmaceutical industry power over the science department.

In 2021, Keele University’s dean of natural sciences wrote to Exley and explained that “the university will no longer provide facilities to solicit or enable restricted charitable donations” to Exley’s research group, effectively banning any research on “the bio-inorganic chemistry of aluminum and its links to neurodegenerative disease.” The ban includes a stoppage of all “donations from individuals, groups, charities and foundations.” The University most recently refused a $15,000 donation from Children’s Health Defense Chairman Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

For years, Exley has studied various routes of aluminum exposure in humans, from dietary intake to topical application to inhalation and most notably, injected aluminum (from vaccines). Children’s Health Defense supports Exley’s research efforts, for this science can be used to improve consumer products, cosmetics, vaccines, and help protect children from aluminum toxicity.

The University rejected Robert F. Kennedy’s Jr.’s donation because “prominent public figures or foundations could place the institution in an ethical and reputational predicament.” The University’s vice chancellor for research and enterprise wrote that this “could generate potentially negative media coverage and may also jeopardize the strong relationships it holds with its existing major funders and partners.”

Bill Gate’s money and influence is infiltrating university research, shutting down scientific progress on vaccine safety

After Keele University shut down Exley’s research and confessed it was done to appease their major funders; it became clear who was pulling the strings at the University. Over the past five years, the university adopted new priorities and “strategic research areas” that support “Global Health.” The major funder behind this new push is none other than the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. As the Gates priorities kicked in, Keele University partnered up with UK’s largest pharmacy company (Well Pharmacy), and gave them a special place on campus.

The University’s Pharmacy School was radically transformed in 2019 as well, and was reconfigured as the School of Pharmacy and Bioengineering. The pharmaceutical and biotech industries were given precedence and exclusive influence over the science and technology department at Keele.

Exley’s research was quickly targeted by the growing pharmaceutical influence at the university because Exley’s research team was brave enough to study the health impacts of aluminum adjuvants in vaccines. A 2021 hit-piece published in the Guardian labeled Exley as “anti-vaccine” for wanting more research on the safety of aluminum in vaccines. No stranger to these Big Pharma attacks, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrote to Keele in 2020: “Allowing industry to quash science for fear that it might expose profitable practices as harmful to public health is offensive to every tenet of academic freedom, scientific integrity, ethics and morality.”

Exley’s brave research team is currently set to be disbanded and disposed by Aug. 31, 2021, as powerful pharmaceutical interests and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation continue to bully scientists and shut down scientific progress on vaccine safety.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/keele-university-cancels-all-aluminum-research-scientist-links-aluminum-vaccines-human-health-problems/5741736

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2 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Small pox used to be a real problem, the word vaccine actually comes from the word Vache or cow, which was a transmitter of smallpox.

 

It's said that smallpox killed 10% of the world's population on average prior to Edward Jenner's development of a denatured inoculation of the smallpox virus.

Dr Suzanne Humphries discusses smallpox from 1797-2005

There is so much smallpox history that has never been widely told. It is shocking, and disappointing and needs to be heard by anyone who thinks the smallpox vaccine solved any problems at all.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

Well for a kick off they can pay me back every penny of my NI contributions with interest.

Any so-called article that appeals to Andrew Lloyd-Webber for authority is really scraping the bottom. The sewer-dweller who wrote the piece needs to get a late night visit from men wearing black balaclavas.

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10 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Agree normally it isn't, but I would hazard a guess that each and everyone of us is now walking around with a less efficient immune system than we had in 2019. Again a guess but I would think that if we were given any form of vaccine now our bodies would have more issues dealing with it than in pre covid times.

Maybe the social distancing served a dual purpose, it prevented direct verbal and physical connection with our fellow humans but also stopped our bodies communicating with each other in a way we weren't consciously aware of.

Bit of a tangent I know but few years back there was a cluster of strange airplane crashes and disappearances, is there a possibility that they were used to gather and abduct large groups of people for experimentation? Guantanamo bay now also seems to have been a human lab under the guise of a prison.

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