vinny79 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Over my dead body They would have to kill me before I allowed anymore near my children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Human10 said: If it's got real virus in it it's not a surprise. This is how vaccines work Er no.....it isn't. Vaccines have a denatured or weakened version of the virus, which will allow your body to make anti-bodies but not actually make you sick. People who take the TB vaccine don't get TB, people who take the tetanus vaccine don't develop tetanus. At least that's how it used to be. Now of course, they're playing a different game. Edited May 19, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 5/17/2021 at 9:43 PM, DarianF said: I imagine comparative mythology can easily take a few years of one's time. There's an interesting comment thread here: https://richarddawkins.net/2014/04/seeking-hard-evidence-for-the-similarity-of-the-horus-and-jesus-myths/ And also Mithras, the favourite of Roman soldiers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dazzer said: Posters talking about jabbing the kids on a footy forum I read... 'Start with the teenagers then move to the younger ones' Others seem to think it's the way forward, utterly depressing. they could be 77th brigade people trying to saturate public spaces with government propaganda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, k_j_evans said: And also Mithras, the favourite of Roman soldiers. Which developed as a competitor to Christianity.......the Roman cult of Mithraism came after Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Er no.....it isn't. Vaccines have a denatured or weakened version of the virus, which will allow your body to make anti-bodies but not actually make you sick. People who take the TB vaccine don't get TB, people who take the tetanus vaccine don't develop tetanus. At least that's how it used to be. Now of course, they're playing a different game. Haha - right - everyone I know has jabadabadu flu and flu right after every year. They are told it would be worse without vax so they continue taking it. Morons. Lol. xD The only 'weaken' are people after taking these magic elixirs xD And I don't blame for instance poor Africans who are unconscious possible risks. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/02/vaccine-derived-polio-spreads-in-africa-after-defeat-of-wild-virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzer Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: they could be 77th brigade people trying to saturate public spaces with government propaganda Unfortunately not mate, some of them have been using the site for 10+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ink said: It does seem that way currently but sadly we have not, as yet, stopped them! If anyone has not seen the UK channel 4, 2013-14 first version then I suggest this thread where all the links are and a couple of clips. https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/10244-new-series-just-released-on-amazon-prime-utopia/ I watched the US version which entertaining was absolutely nothing like the original and lo and behold they canelled it ,Now the cynic in me says it was cancelled because it was just a bit too near the knuckle in the current climate but maybe they cancelled because of low viewing figures (tongue in cheek at this point) I rewatched series 1 & 2 recently and its even more apt now And just because i can heres my favourite clip from the UK version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dazzer said: Unfortunately not mate, some of them have been using the site for 10+ years. cyberwarfare has been going on that long there was a notorious shill on the old forum who was also active on football forums Edited May 19, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: cyberwarfare has been going on that long The internets whole being was based on cyberwarfare nowts changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, whatthefoxhat said: The internets whole being was based on cyberwarfare nowts changed The Pentagon's shadow army: 60K-strong secret force with $900B budget is operating across the globe specializing in cutting-edge 'signature reduction' espionage methods, new report claims The Pentagon has amassed a secret, 60,000-strong undercover army to carry out domestic and foreign assignments, a new investigation has revealed The force is reportedly more than 10 times the size of the CIA's clandestine operation and includes military and civilian agents 'in real life and online' The agents are 'trained to create secret identities for themselves, make disguises, and can assume fake identities online to pursue high value targets' The digital sleuths can even manipulate biometric databases of foreign Governments so agents can pass fingerprint checks under false identities Newsweek says the force is part of a new front in covert warfare using a little-known espionage known as 'signature reduction' Signature reduction gives the US deniability on sensitive missions and allows soldiers, civilians and contractors to work under false identities While signature reduction operatives are rarely outed, intelligence agents point to the 2013 arrest of American 'diplomat' Ryan Fogle in Moscow as one such case By Bevan Hurley For Dailymail.Com Published: 04:31, 18 May 2021 | Updated: 14:20, 18 May 2021 The Pentagon has been operating a secret 60,000-strong undercover army made up of soldiers, civilians and contractors who work under fake identities to carry out undercover domestic and overseas missions, according to a Newsweek investigation. The force includes NSA agents, cyber security experts and special forces operating behind hostile enemy lines in places like North Korea and Iran. It is serviced by around 130 private companies and supported by dozens of secretive government agencies at an annual cost of $900million, according to the report. The true size of the force of undercover operatives, which is completely unregulated and has never been the subject of Congressional oversight, is unknown. However, after a two year investigation, Newsweek says it is 10 times the size of the CIA's clandestine forces and has grown substantially in the past decade. Its 60,000 members include cyber warriors who use false personas online to search for 'high-value targets'. The 'army' operates in an amorphous new area of combat known as 'signature reduction', which is largely undefined but is a term used to describe the extreme measures taken to protect undercover operatives and operations. It involves, in part, creating false documentation and disguises to paying the bills and taxes of agents while they are operating under their fake identities. It also involves building high-tech and undetectable devices that agents can use to photograph or listen in on activities in remote sections of the world. A Department of Defense spokesperson told Newsweek that 'signature reduction' 'is not an official term'. The Defense Intelligence Agency says it could be described as 'operational security (OPSEC) measures for a variety of activities and operations'. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589975/Pentagon-charge-60-000-strong-secret-army-undercover-operatives.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Er no.....it isn't. Vaccines have a denatured or weakened version of the virus, which will allow your body to make anti-bodies but not actually make you sick. People who take the TB vaccine don't get TB, people who take the tetanus vaccine don't develop tetanus. At least that's how it used to be. Now of course, they're playing a different game. Even a weakened or denatured virus is still a virus. If the person's immune system has been compromised in some way a weak unusual virus could obviously cause problems. As we all know every single piece of gov 'advice' has only one aim; to weaken the human immune system. Not one of their diktat's has a beneficial effect on our overall health. Edited May 19, 2021 by Outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sit down, Waldo said: Some days I just lose the will. Apologies if this crap's been posted already. From the Independent... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/this-is-what-we-do-about-anti-vaxxers-no-job-no-entry-no-nhs-access/ar-BB1gRPNy?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAnZ9Ug If only 10% say no, that is nearly 7,000,000 British people, many of them younger generations. Don't lose hope yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 5/17/2021 at 11:49 PM, Macnamara said: have a listen and see what you think: Dr. Humphries on tetanus, immunity and epigenetics Interesting talk. Didn't really tell me anything I didn't know and my cousin still died of tetanus after an injury at work (agriculture). But it was a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, Outsider said: Even a weakened or denatured virus is still a virus. If the person's immune system has been compromised in some way a weak unusual virus could obviously cause problems. And for sure will be detected by PCR tests... Even if a person is 'asymptomatic'... Which nicely add up to covid stats... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Outsider said: Even a weakened or denatured virus is still a virus. If the person's immune system has been compromised in some way a weak unusual virus could obviously cause problems. Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill. It isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, k_j_evans said: Interesting talk. Didn't really tell me anything I didn't know and my cousin still died of tetanus after an injury at work (agriculture). But it was a long time ago. well that is anecdotal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOYK Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 https://t.me/worlddoctorsalliance/5664 WATCH N SHARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill. It isn't. the point of a vaccine is to inject aluminium into your muscle when aluminium is injected into muscle it bypasses the bodies usual defence mechanisms. For example if you eat or drink aluminium it will pass through the body and out again but if aluminium is injected into muscle it provokes the body into an immune response This immune response involves macrophages swallowing up the aluminium and those macrophages are able to cross the blood brain barrier Once in the brain aluminium is able to affect gene expression causing all kinds of problems such as autoimmune disorders. Aluminium also accumulates in the brain causing autism Edited May 19, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill. It isn't. And why you think so? On what base you think they don't want to make you ill? Because I think adding fertilizers and other poisons not necessary weakens only the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, vinny79 said: Another person who I know of has now died. Had two jabs. Maybe a coincidence but this person was in good health as recently as Christmas. that’s 2, plus another one out of hospital after two weeks in R.i.p to them. I worry about friends and family now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Sure, but that's not what I'm arguing against. Human said the point of a vaccine is to make you ill. It isn't. Agree normally it isn't, but I would hazard a guess that each and everyone of us is now walking around with a less efficient immune system than we had in 2019. Again a guess but I would think that if we were given any form of vaccine now our bodies would have more issues dealing with it than in pre covid times. Maybe the social distancing served a dual purpose, it prevented direct verbal and physical connection with our fellow humans but also stopped our bodies communicating with each other in a way we weren't consciously aware of. Edited May 19, 2021 by Outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Macnamara said: the point of a vaccine is to inject aluminium into your muscle This isn't true either. It may be what they are doing now, but it is not part of the principle of inoculation developed by Edward Jenner. Edited May 19, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Small pox used to be a real problem, the word vaccine actually comes from the word Vache or cow, which was a transmitter of smallpox. It's said that smallpox killed 10% of the world's population on average prior to Edward Jenner's development of a denatured inoculation of the smallpox virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, Human10 said: If it's got real virus in it it's not a surprise. This is how vaccines work It cant be C19 virus...it hasnt been isolated. They are also not getting anything from a PCR test based on what its inventor said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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