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On 9/2/2020 at 6:02 PM, Jelly Bean said:

Hi Peeps 👋

 

I've been meaning to post on here for a million and one reasons. Im always 'oh i must post that' or 'I must ask that'. Clearly being my first post today I've never quite got round to sharing 'that info' or 'asking those questions'. I have a tendency to ramble so I'll try and stick to the reason for my post here....

 

I am hearing more and more on the push for this years flu vaccine and call me paranoid (Or should that actually be sane given where we are) but I am concerned, not for myself but for my Dad who will be getting his soon, despite my expressed reservations to him that this may not be the usual vaccine people would normally receive. And the people getting them may then be the next 'wave' of deaths.... Call me crazy i don't know?! I understand they come in different doses etc, but I just wondered if anyone has came across any information that would suggest they are different to the previous ones? Or just know of anything worth reading/considering? I've done a bit of research and haven't came up with anything, so I'm either the worst researcher in the world or it is just a bit of paranoia.... 

 

Anyway I'd appreciate your thoughts on this... 

 

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Sorry if any one has already suggested this but Dr Vernon Coleman has a book worth reading entitled "If any one tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying"

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22 hours ago, Clubsandwich said:

Had a thought today - does anyone wonder if this is all a massive smokescreen for something more sinister?

 

While we are all preoccupied with masks, vaccines and BLM the powers that be are planning something a whole lot worse behind the scenes.. 

 

What is it they say? Never let a good crisis go to waste?

Yes I have had the same thoughts. Look over there, then while you are looking I will do??????????????

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Got quite angry today at work. Had radio two on (Not some thing I normally listen to), but as I wasn't driving far I left it on. People in Scotland mostly were E-mailing and phoning in telling about experiences with elderly relatives in care homes. One woman nearly in tears talking about her Dad with dementia who the family were unable to visit for months then when they could it was seeing him through a window. Her Dad was allowed to have a total stranger come in and cut his hair or have a visit from a priest, but no family allowed. I will not go into what other people had to say because you get the gist by now. Found my self shouting FUCKING WANKERS at the radio. Discovered this evening Vernon Coleman is not putting any more videos on U=tube due to his videos being deleted for telling the truth. FUCKING WANKERS.

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Here we go, looks like the "Covid Cold" has already done the rounds in the UK:

 

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Coronavirus herd immunity may be closer than thought because 'flawed' antibody surveys that only test blood 'dramatically underestimate' how many people have had the disease, scientists claim

 

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This, they say, is because the studies do not test for all forms of antibodies, including those found in saliva which may signal mild or asymptomatic cases.

Most research into past infection has looked for the presence of IgG and IgM antibodies, the most common types, which are found in the blood and protect against viral infections.

Another type of antibody - called IgA - is not being routinely tested for. IgA is found in mucous and saliva in the mouth, nose and respiratory tract - the main sites Covid-19 uses to enter the body.

 

Those with these types of antibodies likely fended off the infection in its earliest stages, before it was able to burrow deep into lungs and spread through the blood.

 

In Luxembourg, IgA were found in 11 per cent of people compared with 2 per cent who tested positive using more conventional tests.

 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8693317/Herd-immunity-closer-thought-antibody-surveys-dramatically-underestimate-cases.html

 

The key here is the Luxembourg data....from those percentages in their tests  (which are actually low) , it is very clear that the saliva test detects 5.5 times more cases than the blood test. So if the UK Government is estimating 10% have caught the virus, then actually  it is probably 55% with the sniffles! 

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4 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

I'm a Canadian and from what I hear, wearing a mask while having sex is not so uncommon. Maybe she uses a bondage mask and wants all Canadian to get into bondage, I don't know...  😆

 

I could give it a try I guess... if I'm told by my devoted government. 😜

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11 hours ago, Kala Namak said:

The video has some ok bits in it, but I don't think I could recommend it to folk "sitting on the fence" because of it's sketchy editing and poor quality. 

 

While in search of the original (which I still haven't found yet and cba to look any more), I did find two different takes on the same exchange, one says "Rand Paul embarrasses himself" and the other "Dr Rand Paul schools Dr Fauci". They can't both be right can they? I did notice that both of the videos that claimed that Paul won the exchange didn't include Fauci's response, which is a bit unbalanced. 

 


 

Kala, some people are amateurs in editing but the poor editing does not detract from the words coming out of fauci's mouth.

 

Many people these days don't have the best software or even know-how, but they want to help when they notice something suspicious, and for that I am appreciative.

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What's amateur is this entire corona ordeal. Bunch of morons in the media and government.

 

Still no corona virus has graced me with its presence. Too bad so sad. Neither my elderly relatives and friends. Not a soul I know have displayed any physical signs of being infected with a flu-like virus. After all that hype and pissing and moaning by "health" "advisors" and "doctors" and "reporters", and "representatives"... And now the CDC report less numbers of casualties than originally reported. What a shit-show.

 

Given the government's track read, I would be inclined to entertain the possibility that even some of the deaths could be....fictitious. I mean, it's not like we haven't seen this rogue NWO faction demonstrate seemingly staged events to incite fear and panic... What's to say that some of these "deaths" aren't fictitious also?

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6 hours ago, Messenger said:

Kala, some people are amateurs in editing but the poor editing does not detract from the words coming out of fauci's mouth.

 

Many people these days don't have the best software or even know-how, but they want to help when they notice something suspicious, and for that I am appreciative.

Yes and no. I agree that Fauci is mostly full of shit, so in that regard Viable TV is mostly "preaching to the converted".  I like to have videos and articles that are well presented so that I would be able to recommend to undecided folk currently sitting on the fence if ever the subject came up in conversation.

 

For me Viable TV's videos are not well presented at all and kinda hacked together. We already have the ptb with the slick persuasive brainwashing machine that have the majority in the palm of their hands, so any "alternative" information has to compete for attention, and presentation is, unfortunately, a big part of that. The naysayers and debunkers are already having a field day mocking, ridiculing and dismissing anything that is counter to the official narrative and shoddy presentation just gives them another excuse to plant more seeds of doubt in the minds of the undecided.

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6 hours ago, Messenger said:

What's amateur is this entire corona ordeal. Bunch of morons in the media and government.

See that's the thing, the controllers have almost unlimited resources and are able to fool most of the people most of the time. They have professional levels of deception, they own the media and the government and use them as their tools to control us. 

Of course some of us can see that but unfortunately the majority have been programmed not to, and those are the ones that we need on our side if we're to get any traction.

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36 minutes ago, Kala Namak said:

See that's the thing, the controllers have almost unlimited resources and are able to fool most of the people most of the time. They have professional levels of deception, they own the media and the government and use them as their tools to control us. 

Of course some of us can see that but unfortunately the majority have been programmed not to, and those are the ones that we need on our side if we're to get any traction.

 

Unfortunately sheep need to be led with sound bites fear and basic information from authority figures that's how they function

that's why authority figures communicate with sheep in this fashion its been proven to be effective at control  

sheeple are unable to process information and make decisions that might put them in a minority opinion

they need an authority to issue them a command to feel safe 

when they see others following the command peer pressure and the need to conform will make them follow

they are bound by the overwhelming desire to be part of a majority 

 

personally i think its a great mistake to believe that presenting factual information to sheep will make them wake up

even though they have been denied the facts and only receive information from a very narrow pipe 

they would dismiss the truth because they can't process the actual information they can only process the "rank" or pecking order of the person giving the information  

 

sheep must be treated like members of a religious cult that has programed their minds to only accept information from government sources

 

if the sheeple were android smart phones 

they need to be put into developer mode and allow apps to be installed from outside the google bubble before they can even begin 

on the road of truth and enlightenment

i'm not even certain if they can be cured they may even be beyond help

 

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DI has spoken about the mind virus and that's what we're dealing with now. There is no deadly coronavirus at all, it's a complete hoax IMO. This is a Psy-Op, it's all about psychological warfare, a battle for hearts and minds. The saddest thing is people turning on each other. You only need a modest number of a country to stand up and refuse to consent to the bullshit "rules" and the cabal are fucked because they're outnumbered. People don't even have to fully awaken for this to happen, they just need to acknowledge something doesn't feel right or just to them, understand they can be personally empowered to say No and make choices for their own future.   

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58 minutes ago, Beachcomber said:

Man pepper sprayed and arrested for not wearing a mask; 

 

 
and so it begins.. 

I know this is an extreme case in the video. And kudos to the gentlemen for not swinging for the officer because watching this males.me angry. 

 

But the people in the community that are going along with this and wearing masks I will never EVER trust again. I don't care if it's out of ignorance and fear now, people that aren't mentally handicapped and going along with this remember them. 

 

I won't forget and I won't be associated with them or help them. Time to be ruthless no good arguing with these morons 

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15 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

 

"can you get some Shmutz staying inside there.."


do you know how he defends himself about that now ? He essentially says he was lying so that masks and PPE remain with the healthcare professionals who needed them ! 

 

about 18:30 into this excellent Corbett report. 
 

 

So just think about that for a minute... Fauci admits to lying to the public about the science and if face masks do in fact work as he says (they don’t of course) then he has admitted that he gave deliberately false information to the public and thus knowingly put people in danger. 
 

He should be in jail . 

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See that Matt Le Tissier is trending on twitter for comparing Anne Frank to today.

 

He's right, but now we are not allowed to compare anything to the holocaust/ staert of the holocaust.

 

Obviously they didnt just start exterminating millions of jews, disabled, etc  straight away but it's got to start somewhere hasn't it

 

And for noticing the similarities is now offensive.

 

Also Why can't the MSM  wheel out pretty decent smart people instead of wheeling out people like Denise Welch. 

 

Anyone who goes against the narrative is labelled as a loony..

 

 

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