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4 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Again that's just a theory - Do you have any evidence the jab is going to kill hundreds  of millions long term ?? Nor is there any evidence that I'm aware of that people are being injected with saline

 

 

Well we do know that all pharma companies use placebo monitoring... what do you think they would use instead of saline in this instance? These gene therapies are still in trial after all. So safe to say they would need to be monitoring any placebo jabs.

 

We also know that many have been killed by jabs before - look at in India for example and not just there. Even the Gardisil vaccine has caused deaths and paralysis... it`s not like its out of the ballpark to think along these lines.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Yes, I know you were pointing out about your own experience. But you also said it could be a long term thing ( deaths and depopulation) based on your experience.

 

I was merely pointing out that their have been reactions and deaths... and that I believe there could be a placebo monitoring going on.

 

I actually do know of people who are and have had reactions from this gene therapy. Several are quite young. Loss of sensation in extremities, eye problems, stomach problems, heart attack within hours. One young woman of 30 started having convulsions right after. I am merely saying that based on the reactions that i personally know of this jab is attacking immune systems and nervous system, which could mean that major problems could arise at any time.

 

At least we are both watching what is happening, which is a good thing. It`s good to know that people arent all falling under the spell of the mind control.

 

Out of likes. If you know or know of people who have reacted badly then that confirms what many others have reported but for now I think the sensible attitude to take is that it's still too early in the process to really have a clear picture of what's happening with the jab and what it's true purpose is.

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6 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Again that's just a theory - Do you have any evidence the jab is going to kill hundreds  of millions long term ?? Nor is there any evidence that I'm aware of that people are being injected with saline

There is plenty of theories as you say, who knows. Some doctors have speculated these outcomes.

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23 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Out of likes.

 

The problem in my experience with those in denial is not that they dismiss alternative information like they used to but that it doesn't stay with them. You can give them some facts that discredit the official line and they quite often agree but within 24 hours they put it out of their head as though the conversation never happened.

 

well maybe they are agreeing to be rid of you so they can play "lets pretend everything is OK so we dont have to take any action." These are the folks who will always need someone else to do stuff for them or they just love rules too much to give in ( like my sister)

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21 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

How will they circumvent people`s right to autonomy over their own biological property in your opinion ?

Thats a good question. At the moment we are protected by law,the nuremburg trial etc. But the goverment are trying to find ways through this legal stuff.

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I've learned enough over the years now to just go with my own 'instincts'.

 

And I also know now how people can be 'turned', and become controlled opposition thanks to 'filthy lucre'.

 

I know people call out Alex Jones as a 'shill', and he most probably is, but I don't doubt that there was a time when he was 'genuine'.

 

Same goes for people like Tommy Robinson, they start out on the 'right side' with good intentions, build up a 'following' and then they become corrupted.

 

There are always people I have 'question marks' over, like Paul Joseph Watson for example, or Lauren Southern.

 

There is enough disinformation being pushed around by the mainstream media as it is, so we all need to be wary of disinformation being pushed around in the 'alternative circles', by those who may have been co-opted as 'controlled opposition'.

 

Keep an open mind. Stay objective. Think critically. Question EVERYTHING.

 

Exactly... I personally dont buy into anything anyone says...even in this forum. I particularly dont like being told who to trust on a forum. We may not all have the same `instincts`about those who others find enlightening.  Like you say we should all be trusting our own instincts. Thanks... ( out of likes) 

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2 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

Thats a good question. At the moment we are protected by law,the nuremburg trial etc. But the goverment are trying to find ways through this legal stuff.

 

 

Yes,it will be interesting to see how they try to remove our right to self. We have seen them trying to bring in more ``mental health``  ``guidelines`` I`m sure they would love to be able to section dissenters. But I think that route will be one of many possible downfalls for them. Once people think they have no way out they will turn rabid. A cornered animal is a deadly one.

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27 minutes ago, truth_seeker90 said:

Are you able to give an example of Jordan Peterson's shady past? I am not disputing it but it would be a shame as I thought he was ok.

 

25 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

You and me both. There's a thread somewhere, let me have a look and come back you. 

 

Of course Jordan Peterson is controlled op. Look at the amount of coverage he gets on the MSM same as Ben Shapiro and all the other Alt Right frauds like Proud Boys and that Spencer clown, you don't get that amount of attention from the MSM if you're genuine.

Peterson may not even be aware that he's controlled op but like Shapiro his role is to create division and conflict between conservatives and liberals, left wing and right wing.

 

Divide and Rule

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12 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Out of likes. If you know or know of people who have reacted badly then that confirms what many others have reported but for now I think the sensible attitude to take is that it's still too early in the process to really have a clear picture of what's happening with the jab and what it's true purpose is.

 

Absolutely, it is sensible to have eyes wide open. I think the answer will have many facets.

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1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

I just think anyone with a public platform can't be trusted. They're all zog pushing freemasons. That goes for all musicians, film/TV stars the fuckin lot. It's a shame I've come to that conclusion but it's the way I am seeing it. We live in Satan's world and we don't belong here. 

I didn't use to feel that way but certainly do now. Anyone who has a public voice or presence is there for a reason and to serve a purpose. That's also why it's difficult to wake other people up because the cult have covered all bases and 100% control the narrative from every possible angle.

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43 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Fine... for now... that Demon Bibi has bought millions of more doses...

 

Its a Christain-Zio 'end times/Millennialism/rapture' thing however, one of Zachariah's prophecies (written whist in Babylon) states two thirds of the Israelites will die before the second coming..... that would be 6 million....

 

In the whole land, says the Lord,
    two-thirds shall be cut off and perish,
    and one-third shall be left alive.
 And I will put this third into the fire,
    refine them as one refines silver,
    and test them as gold is tested.
They will call on my name,
    and I will answer them.
I will say, “They are my people”;
    and they will say, “The Lord is our God.”

 

 Zechariah 13:8-9

So some Jews will survive... I guess we will have to pay them reparations? 😂

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35 minutes ago, Dustpanandbrush said:

Ominous. 

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Always thought local councillors were pretty stupid, but this one is a prize idiot. Though maybe we are the idiots for putting up with them, these dim bulbs who specialise in extracting protection money with menaces aka council tax.

 

Looks like this will be aimed at the Asian community who are 'vaccine hesitant' - and who can blame them? Churchill would have loved this, as he was fairly genocidal towards Indians - an historical fact not taught in schools.

 

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5 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I didn't use to feel that way but certainly do now. Anyone who has a public voice or presence is there for a reason and to serve a purpose. That's also why it's difficult to wake other people up because the cult have covered all bases and 100% control the narrative from every possible angle.

 

Are you including DI in that?  

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Thanks to covid and the devastating effect it had on the administration of justice government branches are weaponizing their bureaucracies. An example would be paying for a car registration was a done deal in the old normal. You could walk out of the registration office knowing that was final. Not anymore. The minister of transports has started sending out claims to recover some unspecified error amount (one such claim was 10 dollars) and they send it unregistered with warnings that your registration may be compromised if payment is not made on a certain date. 

 

Here we are playing with the risk of a vehicle being towed away roadside for lack of registration because you were late spotting the urgency or never got the letter. Vehicle impounded at thousands of dollars plus hefty fines all for a 10 dollar claim they never proved existed.

 

Now to some who have a heavy exposure to life in the cores this may all appear par for the course but in my life I have never seen such willful sloppyness carrying severe consequences. To me this is a sign of the emergeance of mafia type clans evolving within governance. Playing dirty office tricks to increase the wealth of influential friends 

 

In the world I came from we would not expect stupid claim letters from the license bureau telling us the registration process was still incomplete and if so we would have expected registered mail considering the consequences and the courtesy of an explanation. Communist bolshevism is surfacing. It is beyond reproach. Every angle will be played. With pharma as the ringleader.

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6 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

I would like to remind you also that depopulation is of great concern for the elites. They probably dream about it.   :-)

Yes, and always tell friends and relations who rely on the BBC and Mail to do a search for "Georgia Guidestones" - that helps to start them questioning. Plants the seed of doubt.

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21 minutes ago, Human10 said:

So some Jews will survive... I guess we will have to pay them reparations? 😂

So kind of you to offer. I'll take bitcoin or hummus (I really like that) or even loo rolls😉

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35 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

Yes,it will be interesting to see how they try to remove our right to self. We have seen them trying to bring in more ``mental health``  ``guidelines`` I`m sure they would love to be able to section dissenters. But I think that route will be one of many possible downfalls for them. Once people think they have no way out they will turn rabid. A cornered animal is a deadly one.

The right to anything has always been conditional depending on the needs of the many. The only thing standing between eminent domain being exercised on our person was the Nuremberg Code. A "show" code. When it comes down to primal fear and obtaining relief from it you can bet your last dollar they will eminent domain millions for their illusions of safety. Involuntary organ harvesting is this concept at its purest form. My life is worth more than yours.

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In every or any business that operated under the assumption the public is clever and the government bureaucracies are monitoring things they were careful and limited or rather reined in their impulses to steal and cheat. But thanks to covid these devious minds are observing the full splendor of mass stupidity and chaos in the courts. How does anyone think these changes won't incite the normally moderated into excessive criminal behaviour. The societal breakdown and the public display of human stupidity is like an invitation to these people. No more incentive to remain decent and honest.

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1 hour ago, TwopackShugar said:

well i dont see them making it mandatory just yet, more and more coercion to get more people vaccinated. However wasnt there somesort of law inacted after 9/11 (maybe just in america) which allows the government to bypass all of these things and the constitution to vaccinate and house arrest. cant remember where i heard that must have been a podcast... 

This is exactly what I was thinking. Law means nothing. Even the Constitution can be changed  by a whim and a fancy any time anyone likes. It's all completely meaningless.

 

In Britain law is the same. All it needs is a bill in the Houses of Parliament and a majority vote, and bob's your uncle, law changed to whatever they want it to be at any time they like. And a "crisis" ....something like Covid....pandemic....well, they make new gov't departments for that, and new rules any time.
They have an excuse. It's a "crisis", after all. Even well established really old laws can be changed when there's a Crisis situation


Without a public vote (us) The first we hear of it, it's already been passed and we get it on the news.
It's happening everywhere. Law means basically nothing.

 

Lord, I am sick of this place. Happy to leave, any time.

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