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4 hours ago, Ergo Storm said:

With the Prime Minister threatening to send in the Army to supposed infection hotspots, is compulsory vaccination on the way?

 

I have always dismissed the idea in my mind, but I think due to developments, it now seems plausible.  

 

The two developments that make it plausible are:

 

1. The very high percentage take-up of the vaccine, which is in excess of 95% (I appreciate this is based on official figures that can't be relied on, but my anecdotal experience is that virtually everybody is taking it).

 

2. The success of the authorities in their propaganda, due to getting social media and large corporations onside, and partly also due to bribing and paying off people who would otherwise be vocally opposed, such as the average small business owner.

 

I think compulsion may be on its way and we may now see the 'men sorted from the boys', so to speak. 

 

I will never consent.  I will resist to the very end.

I have already answered this already. Its a trail vaccine until 2023 under an emergency licence. It will not be mandatory until fully licenced.

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2 hours ago, Covidiot said:

So after yesterdays inevitable backtrack from easing due to india variant here is my take on the sheeple from experience -

 

After yesterdays announcement and the ramping up of the inda variant scaremongering I took much pleasure in doing the "I told you so" to my work colleagues the response was typical and I think is the primary response of the "sheeple". Personally I now believe most "sheep" are somewhat if not fully aware they are being conned and something sinister is afoot. They are just far too scared to admit it to themselves. Denial is a powerful human coping mechanism.

 

The majority are at this stage in denial IMO. I think that as discussions pointing out the obvious flaws in the narrative are no longer met with sneers but with despair. I see it even with my wonderful OH who is in total agreement with me and is fully awake. People just can't/won't face up to it and would rather bury their heads in the sand and hope it goes away.

 

TBH even I sometimes am in denial and question my own sanity it's the beauty of the whole psy-op.

 

I can't hate them anymore. Most of the "sheep" that i know seem to be somewhat aware but are just terrified and are in denial. I don't see any solution to what is happening and am just going to try and enjoy what little freedom I have left before the SHTF big time in the coming months. There is no painless way out at this point.

 

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The problem in my experience with those in denial is not that they dismiss alternative information like they used to but that it doesn't stay with them. You can give them some facts that discredit the official line and they quite often agree but within 24 hours they put it out of their head as though the conversation never happened.

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1 hour ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

I'm undecided about what the true purpose of the vaccine is. Most of family and their friends have got the jab and there's been no adverse reactions whatsoever, not even mild ones. 

So if it is about population reduction then it's going to be a long term thing.

 

 

But there has been severe reactions and even death for some people. Dont you think it would become glaringly obvious if everyone started dropping at once.

 

I personally think that based on the reactions so far and the ingredients of the vaccine...immune systems are being zapped...and each persons immune system is different...

 

Thats not to say that some vaccines were not placebo.... I`m thinking they are  monitoring based on batched number.

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6 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

Unbelievable! 

 

Yet another letter from Imperial College London has just been pushed through my letterbox asking me to sign up for their, 'Important study to measure how many people have COVID-19'. To help the government plan how to keep me and others safe from it.

 

They are relentless.

 

Filing it carefully in the recycling bin, alongside their other 3 recent missives. 

Mine isn't from Imperial, but UK biobank (which is Oxford). I have at last managed to get a complete kit with no missing bits so will do it. As I have a spare almost complete kit, if anyone has the means to test to find out what the antibody test is actually looking for, I'm happy to pass it on

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5 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

I have already answered this already. Its a trail vaccine until 2023 under an emergency licence. It will not be mandatory until fully licenced.

 

 

How will they circumvent people`s right to autonomy over their own biological property in your opinion ?

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27 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

But there has been severe reactions and even death for some people. Dont you think it would become glaringly obvious if everyone started dropping at once.

 

I personally think that based on the reactions so far and the ingredients of the vaccine...immune systems are being zapped...and each persons immune system is different...

 

Thats not to say that some vaccines were not placebo.... I`m thinking they are  monitoring based on batched number.

 

I'm not disputing any of that and am open to all theories about what the vaccine is really about but was merely making the point that my personal experience with those who have got the vaccine some of them elderly and in poor health does not match up with the 'everyone who gets jabbed will die' narrative.

Don't know or know of a single person who has had an adverse reaction to the jab thus far. Just my experience.

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6 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

I have already answered this already. Its a trail vaccine until 2023 under an emergency licence. It will not be mandatory until fully licenced.

well i dont see them making it mandatory just yet, more and more coercion to get more people vaccinated. However wasnt there somesort of law inacted after 9/11 (maybe just in america) which allows the government to bypass all of these things and the constitution to vaccinate and house arrest. cant remember where i heard that must have been a podcast... 

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1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

I didn't realise you weren't British, my bad. Where are you from? 

 

As far as info goes, it's about verification, if the information you have cannot be verified then I'd be very careful about divulging said information. What this shit has taught me and trust me, I've been doing this since I was 17 for 20 years and I am equally guilty for looking at shit information. But more so now, people I thought could be trusted cannot actually be trusted. Honestly, knock about with @oddsnsods & @EnigmaticWorld and trust me, people you thought were good have shady backgrounds. 

 

I used to very much like Jordan Peterson, I kind of still do to a point, but then these two have shown me another side and now I just think he's a zio pushing shill. Funny isn't it? Just when you think you've got it nailed down, someone you thought was good for information is a fuckin shill. 

 

So what I am saying is be careful who you promote, because what the 2 individuals have taught me above is that you can't be too careful when researching information. 👍

Are you able to give an example of Jordan Peterson's shady past? I am not disputing it but it would be a shame as I thought he was ok.

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1 minute ago, truth_seeker90 said:

Are you able to give an example of Jordan Peterson's shady past? I am not disputing it but it would be a shame as I thought he was ok.

You and me both. There's a thread somewhere, let me have a look and come back you. 

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1 hour ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

I'm undecided about what the true purpose of the vaccine is. Most of family and their friends have got the jab and there's been no adverse reactions whatsoever, not even mild ones. 

So if it is about population reduction then it's going to be a long term thing.

 

Its not going to kill them over night,It could take years,no one really knows. Also some of the vaccines will be saline.

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3 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

Its not going to kill them over night,It could take years,no one really knows. Also some of the vaccines will be saline.

 

Again that's just a theory - Do you have any evidence the jab is going to kill hundreds  of millions long term ?? Nor is there any evidence that I'm aware of that people are being injected with saline

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1 minute ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

I'm not disputing any of that and am open to all theories about what the vaccine is really about but was merely making the point that my personal experience with those who have got the vaccine some of them elderly and in poor health does match up with the 'everyone who gets jabbed will die' narrative.

Don't know or know of a single person who has had an adverse reaction to the jab thus far. Just my experience.

 

Yes, I know you were pointing out about your own experience. But you also said it could be a long term thing ( deaths and depopulation) based on your experience.

 

I was merely pointing out that their have been reactions and deaths... and that I believe there could be a placebo monitoring going on.

 

I actually do know of people who are and have had reactions from this gene therapy. Several are quite young. Loss of sensation in extremities, eye problems, stomach problems, heart attack within hours. One young woman of 30 started having convulsions right after. I am merely saying that based on the reactions that i personally know of this jab is attacking immune systems and nervous system, which could mean that major problems could arise at any time.

 

At least we are both watching what is happening, which is a good thing. It`s good to know that people arent all falling under the spell of the mind control.

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4 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Again that's just a theory - Do you have any evidence the jab is going to kill hundreds  of millions long term ?? Nor is there any evidence that I'm aware of that people are being injected with saline

 

 

Well we do know that all pharma companies use placebo monitoring... what do you think they would use instead of saline in this instance? These gene therapies are still in trial after all. So safe to say they would need to be monitoring any placebo jabs.

 

We also know that many have been killed by jabs before - look at in India for example and not just there. Even the Gardisil vaccine has caused deaths and paralysis... it`s not like its out of the ballpark to think along these lines.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Yes, I know you were pointing out about your own experience. But you also said it could be a long term thing ( deaths and depopulation) based on your experience.

 

I was merely pointing out that their have been reactions and deaths... and that I believe there could be a placebo monitoring going on.

 

I actually do know of people who are and have had reactions from this gene therapy. Several are quite young. Loss of sensation in extremities, eye problems, stomach problems, heart attack within hours. One young woman of 30 started having convulsions right after. I am merely saying that based on the reactions that i personally know of this jab is attacking immune systems and nervous system, which could mean that major problems could arise at any time.

 

At least we are both watching what is happening, which is a good thing. It`s good to know that people arent all falling under the spell of the mind control.

 

Out of likes. If you know or know of people who have reacted badly then that confirms what many others have reported but for now I think the sensible attitude to take is that it's still too early in the process to really have a clear picture of what's happening with the jab and what it's true purpose is.

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6 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Again that's just a theory - Do you have any evidence the jab is going to kill hundreds  of millions long term ?? Nor is there any evidence that I'm aware of that people are being injected with saline

There is plenty of theories as you say, who knows. Some doctors have speculated these outcomes.

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23 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Out of likes.

 

The problem in my experience with those in denial is not that they dismiss alternative information like they used to but that it doesn't stay with them. You can give them some facts that discredit the official line and they quite often agree but within 24 hours they put it out of their head as though the conversation never happened.

 

well maybe they are agreeing to be rid of you so they can play "lets pretend everything is OK so we dont have to take any action." These are the folks who will always need someone else to do stuff for them or they just love rules too much to give in ( like my sister)

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21 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

How will they circumvent people`s right to autonomy over their own biological property in your opinion ?

Thats a good question. At the moment we are protected by law,the nuremburg trial etc. But the goverment are trying to find ways through this legal stuff.

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I've learned enough over the years now to just go with my own 'instincts'.

 

And I also know now how people can be 'turned', and become controlled opposition thanks to 'filthy lucre'.

 

I know people call out Alex Jones as a 'shill', and he most probably is, but I don't doubt that there was a time when he was 'genuine'.

 

Same goes for people like Tommy Robinson, they start out on the 'right side' with good intentions, build up a 'following' and then they become corrupted.

 

There are always people I have 'question marks' over, like Paul Joseph Watson for example, or Lauren Southern.

 

There is enough disinformation being pushed around by the mainstream media as it is, so we all need to be wary of disinformation being pushed around in the 'alternative circles', by those who may have been co-opted as 'controlled opposition'.

 

Keep an open mind. Stay objective. Think critically. Question EVERYTHING.

 

Exactly... I personally dont buy into anything anyone says...even in this forum. I particularly dont like being told who to trust on a forum. We may not all have the same `instincts`about those who others find enlightening.  Like you say we should all be trusting our own instincts. Thanks... ( out of likes) 

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2 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

Thats a good question. At the moment we are protected by law,the nuremburg trial etc. But the goverment are trying to find ways through this legal stuff.

 

 

Yes,it will be interesting to see how they try to remove our right to self. We have seen them trying to bring in more ``mental health``  ``guidelines`` I`m sure they would love to be able to section dissenters. But I think that route will be one of many possible downfalls for them. Once people think they have no way out they will turn rabid. A cornered animal is a deadly one.

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27 minutes ago, truth_seeker90 said:

Are you able to give an example of Jordan Peterson's shady past? I am not disputing it but it would be a shame as I thought he was ok.

 

25 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

You and me both. There's a thread somewhere, let me have a look and come back you. 

 

Of course Jordan Peterson is controlled op. Look at the amount of coverage he gets on the MSM same as Ben Shapiro and all the other Alt Right frauds like Proud Boys and that Spencer clown, you don't get that amount of attention from the MSM if you're genuine.

Peterson may not even be aware that he's controlled op but like Shapiro his role is to create division and conflict between conservatives and liberals, left wing and right wing.

 

Divide and Rule

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