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1 hour ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

That's why Pfizer is spending a ton of money to get FDA approval of its poison. Once they've got that, the US military can be ordered to take the shot. What's more, it strips away protection from employees who, at this time, cannot be coerced by their bosses to accept the needle.

 

https://www.wmur.com/article/pfizer-1st-company-to-apply-for-full-fda-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine/36365854

 

1 hour ago, DarianF said:

 

FDA approved or not, informed consent to treatment doesn't depend on that.

 

1 hour ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

It's a big step on the way to watering down informed consent though. Once the vaccine is no longer experimental, the gloves will come off.

 

Am I right in thinking that all these vaccines are only currently authorised for 'emergency use' and are not actually 'approved'?

 

If so, that would probably explain why they are currently neither 'compulsory or mandatory', and why people are being 'invited' to book an appointment.

 

Though there still are sadly a great number of people who believe they 'must' have the jab, and this is due to coercion, bullying and peer-pressure.

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8 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Though there still are sadly a great number of people who believe they 'must' have the jab, and this is due to coercion, bullying and peer-pressure.

i wish that was so but most who i talk to are ecstatic about the jibjab, elated even that they will be injected.

 

there is a cult excitement between the vaxxed

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Lol today while i was walking my dog i saw 6 people wearing masks while in there cars with windows up... also a bicyclist who at about 10 yards away pulled a mask above his face as he passed me i then said Covid is fake and he flipped me the bird.... Canada is doomed lads

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31 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

 

 

Am I right in thinking that all these vaccines are only currently authorised for 'emergency use' and are not actually 'approved'?

 

If so, that would probably explain why they are currently neither 'compulsory or mandatory', and why people are being 'invited' to book an appointment.

 

Though there still are sadly a great number of people who believe they 'must' have the jab, and this is due to coercion, bullying and peer-pressure.

 

Yeah that's what I understood. Approved for emergency use is different to properly authorised.

 

Wonder what happens in 2023 when they get through the approval? We don't have any mandatory vaccines in this country. I wonder if things will start to become more difficult for us thinkers in 2023.

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18 minutes ago, zArk said:

i wish that was so but most who i talk to are ecstatic about the jibjab, elated even that they will be injected.

 

there is a cult excitement between the vaxxed

 

Well yes, I agree, there is also that aspect, and I think that's come through the psychological programming from the media and the 'behavioural messaging' being spread via social media and 'word of mouth'.

 

Proudly announcing on Facebook that they are "fully vaccinated" 😷🤪

 

"I had my jab yesterday, when are you getting yours?"

 

It is very much cult-like I'm afraid.

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There's a woman I'm facebook friends with, we're on the same page as far as a mutual health condition is concerned but by jove is she an extremist lefty red flag flying 'ere type.

 

She thinks censorship is necessary - now she's bitching all her posts have to be moderated by facebook because of her pimping leftist political shit.

 

She moaned about a delay getting her second jab - now she posts how it hurts her to put down poison to kill ants.

 

Is it me or is there a distinct lack of integrity going on there?! 

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7 hours ago, zArk said:

 

i have heard a few panic station ideas in the past year

'food shortage'

'power grid failure'

'internet shut down'

'martial law troops on street'

'mandatory vaccinations'.

 

 

 

 

The Army and councils were running training events for young people for this scenario as far back as 2013.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Am I right in thinking that all these vaccines are only currently authorised for 'emergency use' and are not actually 'approved'?

 

If so, that would probably explain why they are currently neither 'compulsory or mandatory', and why people are being 'invited' to book an appointment.

 

Though there still are sadly a great number of people who believe they 'must' have the jab, and this is due to coercion, bullying and peer-pressure.

You are correct. They are experimental. As you probably know, to gain approval by the various State regulatory bodies, vaccines must go through years of testing before they even get to human trials. These were cobbled together in weeks or months. Animal trials failed miserably - the subjects (poor creatures) all died. This is nothing but a vast, global medical experiment on human lab rats. They have no idea of the consequences. And yes, the psychological pressure to consent to the shot has been overwhelming. They have softened the public up for years. Event 201 told us what they were going to do but today, people don't believe it happened as is a conspiracy theory. It is a crime against humanity and the proponents of this crime deserve the same punishment as the Nazi doctors got.

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3 hours ago, zArk said:

Infection and transmission is a myth 

 

Created to hide the damaging effects of electricity

 

Check out the infectious myth on archive .com David crowe or Kaufman or Cowan or Stefan Lanka 

 

 

It would depend on which part of infection and transmission you are claiming as myth. 

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10 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

"Chinese Military Discussed Weaponizing COVID In 2015 'To Cause Enemy's Medical System To Collapse' | ZeroHedge" https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/chinese-military-discussed-weaponizing-covid-2015-cause-enemys-medical-system-collapse

 

 

 

So the Chinese military are also behind:

 

The great reset

Klaus Schwab

The 300 + page Coronavirus Bill

Putting DNRs are people with learning difficulties

Big pharma profits

The Stanley Johnson virus novel

Fake news and staged hospitals

etc, etc

 

 

If they are. Some one has asked them to do it.

 

However all this does is reinforce the claim that we need the vaccines and the covid laws, because there really was a virus. 

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1 hour ago, wingwang said:

There's a woman I'm facebook friends with, we're on the same page as far as a mutual health condition is concerned but by jove is she an extremist lefty red flag flying 'ere type.

 

She thinks censorship is necessary - now she's bitching all her posts have to be moderated by facebook because of her pimping leftist political shit.

 

She moaned about a delay getting her second jab - now she posts how it hurts her to put down poison to kill ants.

 

Is it me or is there a distinct lack of integrity going on there?! 

 

Most people are hypocrites and inauthentic.

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On 5/7/2021 at 5:48 PM, Tinfoil Hat said:

"Runshaw College Covid outbreak: Indian variant among more than 30 cases on campus | Lancashire Evening Post" https://www.lep.co.uk/health/coronavirus/runshaw-college-covid-outbreak-indian-variant-among-more-than-30-cases-on-campus-3228117?amp

 

I should have linked it. 

 

It's no surprise that our local journalists have trouble spelling.

 

"Runshaw has not confirmed the exact number of cases, but sources say "at least" 30 people have tested positive. The college has confirmed that "some" of those affected have contratced the Indian variant."

 

 

So absolutely no evidence they have had an Indian, no discussion of the testing method to decide whether it was a Bhuna or Vindaloo.

 

Noone in hospital, just 30 positive case probably from the flawed lateral flow test.

 

"In an update to college staff last night, principal and CEO Clare Russell confirmed that "genetic testing" had uncovered the Indian variant among those who had tested positive."

 

Who did the genetic testing?

 

 

 

Updated Friday, 7th May 2021, 3:39 pm

 

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https://www.lep.co.uk/health/coronavirus/long-way-to-go-before-face-masks-and-social-distancing-will-be-scrapped-says-vaccine-chief-3230030

 

'Long way to go' before face masks and social distancing will be scrapped, says vaccine chief

 

The head of the Oxford University vaccine group has said that although he believes there will be the end of social distancing and the wearing of face masks in the future, there’s still a “long way to go”.

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42 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

It would depend on which part of infection and transmission you are claiming as myth. 

i think the onus is upon the infection/transmission model to prove its claim

 

there is no proof

 

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16 minutes ago, Mr Chinnery said:

https://www.lep.co.uk/health/coronavirus/long-way-to-go-before-face-masks-and-social-distancing-will-be-scrapped-says-vaccine-chief-3230030

 

'Long way to go' before face masks and social distancing will be scrapped, says vaccine chief

 

The head of the Oxford University vaccine group has said that although he believes there will be the end of social distancing and the wearing of face masks in the future, there’s still a “long way to go”.

 

Any coherent argument over the actual statistics or just opinion and hearsay?

 

Coronavirus not seasonal anymore??

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Remember in that one x files episode where skinner is injected with nano technology. And krychek uses a decice to make skinner sick at will. 

 

Well through these vaccines the nano technology will be activated through 5g towers in the near future. 

 

Also research nano domestic quell

Brace yourselves 

 

 

That is my opinion 

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