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7 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

I believe Fauci was one of those confirming that they caused pneumonia.

 

The usual AP and Reuters fact checked it with a load of bullshit lies and that is enough for simple minds to wear the dirty face masks. 

 

Seems absolutely logical to me that wearing a dirty face mask is going to lead to lung infections and most of the people wearing masks have that scratchy cough, they might deny it but they do. 

 

So instead of breathing exhaling clear co2 their is contaminated by their dirty mask which is festering bacteria. This then spreads in to the air and other people inhale it and then it ends up in the lungs of the the people, whether they are wearing a mask or not.  That is how the mask bacteria spreads to people not wearing masks. 

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46 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

 

The three I've Highlighted do seem to be part of the plan ... from things they themselves have said 

 

There are things we can do to protect ourselves 

Imagine a country,not this country,just A country,now imagine that country manages against the odds to find a collective voice and reject the vaccination programme and it returns itself to something resembling the normality it had prior to march 2020

 

The panic station ideas you quoted are the means to turn that around and get this mythical country back in line

 

There are many tools in ''their'' armoury and we haven't seen them use anything other than propaganda up to now

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2 hours ago, Frankieboy said:

Why identify ourselves as small and meaningless?

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When we have the potential to be much more!

 

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Trouble is we aint got 700 years to grow fro m the acorn to the mighty oak ....we aint even got 700 days

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10 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

The usual AP and Reuters fact checked it with a load of bullshit lies and that is enough for simple minds to wear the dirty face masks. 

 

Seems absolutely logical to me that wearing a dirty face mask is going to lead to lung infections and most of the people wearing masks have that scratchy cough, they might deny it but they do. 

 

So instead of breathing exhaling clear co2 their is contaminated by their dirty mask which is festering bacteria. This then spreads in to the air and other people inhale it and then it ends up in the lungs of the the people, whether they are wearing a mask or not.  That is how the mask bacteria spreads to people not wearing masks. 

 

Absolutely, also when they touch these contaminated things they then go into stores and touch things on the shelves and push trolleys (carts - Canada). Not to mention money and door handles.

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6 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Absolutely, also when they touch these contaminated things they then go into stores and touch things on the shelves and push trolleys (carts - Canada). Not to mention money and door handles.

 

I think the risk from touching thing is extremely low as is catching a virus from someone without a mask. Problem with dirty masks though is that they are the perfect breading ground for lung and throat bacteria to grow and that is exactly what we are seeing with these masks. 

 

That being said, the amount these dirty mask people touch their mask and face is significant enough to potentially increase the risk of contamination on to surfaces that they touch. Especially if their mask is wet, which it often is. 

 

I don't want to be too graphic but this is exactly what I cough up every single time I go to the supermarket then after mouth wash and a clear out my chest is clean again until the next visit. So I go about once per week, for the rest of the time I do not cough anything but because my chest is clean, as soon as I come back from the shop I am coughing this up, sorry for graphic picture.

 

If dirty masks are not spreading anything or a cause for concern to the wearer why does the official guidance talk about mask hygiene and suggest they should be cleaned regularly etc? can't have it both ways, dirty masks can't be no risk but yet they suggest to clean them.

 

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I have worn masks in work for about 8/9 months now and not had chest pains and yet to witness anymore fall ill through it and I work with about 300/400 staff. Everyone around me has basically had their vaccines and the only thing I have heard is flu like symptoms for 24 hours. I have elderly in laws with terminal cancer and I am amazed they are still walking around after having their double doses of the vaccine. When I am inform people that I am not having the vaccine I get the look that I am from a mental asylum. 

 

I personally don't think you will see a lot of deaths from the vaccines, I think its more probable that they are hoping to increase the percentage for sterilisation of women and keep pumping the LGBT agenda's. These lockdown's alone must have stopped the flow of new born babies with women delaying having children, no night life with pubs/nightclubs etc. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Sensiblejoe said:

I have worn masks in work for about 8/9 months now and not had chest pains and yet to witness anymore fall ill through it and I work with about 300/400 staff. Everyone around me has basically had their vaccines and the only thing I have heard is flu like symptoms for 24 hours. I have elderly in laws with terminal cancer and I am amazed they are still walking around after having their double doses of the vaccine. When I am inform people that I am not having the vaccine I get the look that I am from a mental asylum. 

 

I personally don't think you will see a lot of deaths from the vaccines, I think its more probable that they are hoping to increase the percentage for sterilisation of women and keep pumping the LGBT agenda's. These lockdown's alone must have stopped the flow of new born babies with women delaying having children, no night life with pubs/nightclubs etc. 

 

 

When I spoke to the workers at COOP and Sainsbury about masks they said to me that some were getting head aches. 

 

Also i think if they do get ill, it is very unlikely that they will link it to the masks, they will most likely blame covid. 

 

I agree that this about infertility rather and killing people but the side effects can be serious. I suspect many of the injections are fake to prevent too many negative side effects and/or different batches are worse than others and depending on how they were stored and administered. All these factors I think can contribute to bad reactions. My mother claims she has had two injections and had no problems....

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Time will tell, I guess, if we start seeing increases in lung cancer, collapsed lungs, bacterial pneumonia and so on then we know it is the masks. If not then the masks are super healthy and I am wrong... 

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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-boris-johnson-set-to-confirm-lockdown-rules-will-ease-from-17-may-as-government-in-delicate-talks-on-hosting-champions-league-final-12301434

 

Boris Johnson is poised to announce that the next stage of lifting lockdown will go ahead as planned on 17 May, a cabinet minister has said.

Michael Gove told Sky News the prime minister will give the green light tomorrow, clearing the way for people to meet inside and for indoor hospitality to resume in just over a week's time.

 

 

Anyone who has treated me like a leaper throughout this nonsense will be treated by me as a leaper for life. 

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21 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

I think the risk from touching thing is extremely low as is catching a virus from someone without a mask. Problem with dirty masks though is that they are the perfect breading ground lung and throat bacteria to grow and that is exactly what we are seeing with these masks. 

 

That being said, the amount these dirty mask people touch their mask and face is significant enough to potentially increase the risk of contamination on to surfaces that they touch. Especially if their mask is wet, which it often is. 

 

I don't want to be too graphic but this is exactly what I cough up every single time I go to the supermarket then after mouth wash and a clear out my chest is clean again until the next visit. So I go about once per week, for the rest of the time I do not cough anything but because my chest is clean, as soon as I come back from the shop I am coughing this up, sorry for graphic picture.

 

 

 

 

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Either way, from direct airborne particles or bacteria that can live on surfaces for hours - I`d say there is a major degree of transmission from mask wearers.  It only takes being on a bus next to someone with a cold to get a cold or from a contaminated surface.  Agree with you that it is a risk to non mask wearers.  It should be us jumping out of the way of them in stores... 🥴

 

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38 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

Trouble is we aint got 700 years to grow fro m the acorn to the mighty oak ....we aint even got 700 days

Iam bored and just had a one skinner. 

 

How about ....  Many acorns make big fuck off tree ? ( Said in a Native Amercian voice ) 

 

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19 minutes ago, Sensiblejoe said:

I have worn masks in work for about 8/9 months now and not had chest pains and yet to witness anymore fall ill through it and I work with about 300/400 staff. Everyone around me has basically had their vaccines and the only thing I have heard is flu like symptoms for 24 hours. I have elderly in laws with terminal cancer and I am amazed they are still walking around after having their double doses of the vaccine. When I am inform people that I am not having the vaccine I get the look that I am from a mental asylum. 

 

I personally don't think you will see a lot of deaths from the vaccines, I think its more probable that they are hoping to increase the percentage for sterilisation of women and keep pumping the LGBT agenda's. These lockdown's alone must have stopped the flow of new born babies with women delaying having children, no night life with pubs/nightclubs etc. 

 

 

I`m glad you have not got ill from your masks. Do you change yours daily and have good mouth hygiene? This may be a factor.

 

There hasn't been a lot of deaths from ``covid`` either - lots of positive tests though. I guess we will have to see how it plays out in regard to vaccine fatalities...its said it will be later rather than sooner that this will occur, although there have been some.

 

Thats a good point re no nightclubs, pubs etc.  Restricting the normal means to attract and multiply.  😁

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12 minutes ago, Cassady said:

Iam bored and just had a one skinner. 

 

How about ....  Many acorns make big fuck off tree ? ( Said in a Native Amercian voice ) 

 

🙃

 

How's about sticking to the topic please?

 

 

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1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

Or you could just have a pain in chest.... spreading bacterial pneumonia? What is the basis for such claims?

 

I'm sorry but some of the theories on here are beyond idiotic . 

 

I bet you listen to tools like Vernon Coleman and Yeadon....

 

This troll still here? Never responds to any post just hit & run.

 

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5 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

How's about sticking to the topic please?

 

 

I was though . I was trying to put a bit of positivity with a tad of humour on somebody elses comment. Come on mate . 

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I change mask for every shift I work, use it and then bin it. I know it's not healthy, but can't be arsed to argue with managers etc. I do drop it to my chin when no one is around. 

 

If my employers force the vaccine passports on me further down the line, I will go on the sick with mental health. But I will have no choice to eventually take the vaccine if I can't earn money because mortgage and bills etc. I am willing to sacrifice myself so my children and partner don't have to have the vaccine. 

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It is what it is and the coercian is evil especially when you have a family to look after. I'm dying on this hill if need be.  

 

"You won't be able to go on holiday". That's fine I won't travel then. 

"You won't be able to shop at supermarkets" okay I will shop online. 

 

I'm not buckling on the vaccine. 

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2 minutes ago, Sensiblejoe said:

I change mask for every shift I work, use it and then bin it. I know it's not healthy, but can't be arsed to argue with managers etc. I do drop it to my chin when no one is around. 

 

If my employers force the vaccine passports on me further down the line, I will go on the sick with mental health. But I will have no choice to eventually take the vaccine if I can't earn money because mortgage and bills etc. I am willing to sacrifice myself so my children and partner don't have to have the vaccine. 

 

 

I think going on the sick for mental health may be the way to go... lets be fair it would be acceptable under what they have been doing. Having the vaccine wouldnt be an option for me...but I can see how people are feeling coerced to take it.

 

Changing your masks and dropping it beneath chin is likely helping to prevent probs for you... I hope it all works out 

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1 hour ago, whatthefoxhat said:

Trouble is we aint got 700 years to grow fro m the acorn to the mighty oak ....we aint even got 700 days

Time is definitely not on our side, I think we have all been caught off guard by the speed and intensity of this process....and therefore unable to mount an effective defense.

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4 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

I think going on the sick for mental health may be the way to go... lets be fair it would be acceptable under what they have been doing. Having the vaccine wouldnt be an option for me...but I can see how people are feeling coerced to take it.

 

Changing your masks and dropping it beneath chin is likely helping to prevent probs for you... I hope it all works out 

I personally wouldn't advise the mental health reason, could lead to all sorts of problems where by they could class you as mentally unfit and you end up getting sectioned.

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