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[GOYK]

Just now, whatthefoxhat said:

I dont ever rememer hearing of personal interviews in past census's,i'm not saying they didn't happen but not unsurprising especially given the thirst for information every government department seems to have now

no i never knew either...interesting stuff.....there 35yrs and 30 yrs of age with 2 kids....this tells you everything.

 

wish it was me, fuck me id have some fun with that

[whatthefoxhat]

1 minute ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

The only country in which violence might achieve anything is America because the population has access to military grade firearms but even then I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Who would you target ??

The police ?? Army ?? What will that achieve ?? Attacking for example The White House would be a disaster - thousands of troops, armoured cars, helicopters etc. machine guns and rifles are no match for that.

Only thing I can think of that might achieve anything is storming and occupying major news media buildings - CNN, NBC etc.

But for now it's not an issue, practically everyone in America with a firearm has too much to lose - Family, home, job, money in the bank, a still relatively comfortable lifestyle compared to many places in the world. Really think it's time to risk getting killed or a lifetime prison sentence ??

Intuition is telling me violence is not a good idea especially if you live outside America, now that might change as the situation gets worse, but for now stick to peaceful protest.

It'll instigate itself when the time is right ,when that time is is anyones guess but when it does it'll be at the exact time its needed and not before

[Mitochondrial Eve]

8 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

I'm still waiting for someone to point me to examples of tyrannies removed with peaceful protest and a collective 'just saying no'

 

I do think its time for people to start accepting that 'they' will not be removed with anything other than extreme violence and as to ''its what they want'' its quite simple you either fight or you die early anyway i don't think there is anyone that uses this forum important enough to be allowed to survive if mass depopulation is really high on 'their' agenda ,i could be wrong,but even having an alternative view is slowly but surely being turned into a criminal offence with a whole scale of sliding penalties from death at the extreme end (look to China for that one ) to having your government handouts severely curtailed.

 

I would love to be proven wrong on everything but looking at the bigger picture (admittedly my world view is skewed and limited to what i can still find online) i really do think this summer is the only chance anyone is going to have to reverse this situation after that it doesn't really bear thinking about it's not going to be pretty thats for sure

 

4 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

Violence is not the answer. It will bring bloodshed to innocents.  Violence has its place, but only when immediately necessary in my opinion...and requires more than a kitchen knife. How do you suggest a disarmed people fight those with arms a plenty...

 

Gun lobbies and fake mass shootings have been trying to remove weapons from people while the police and armies have no end of supply. I believe this has been deliberate.

 

'From Dictatorship to Democracy' is widely considered to be an authority on non-violent revolutions. It was originally written in 1993 by Dr Gene Sharp, an American Political Scientist, at the request of a prominent Burmese democrat exile. The pamphlet was surreptitiously handed out among political dissidents the world over. I have linked to a pdf version below.

 

http://www.engaged-zen.org/PDFarchive/From_Dictatorship_to_Democracy.pdf

 

Dr Sharp concludes that non-violent means are far more effective for opposing dictatorships. He also gives examples of where this has worked. From page 11:

 

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Since 1980 dictatorships have collapsed before the predominantly nonviolent defiance of people in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Slovenia, Madagascar, Mali, Bolivia, and the Philippines. Nonviolent resistance has furthered the movement toward democratization in Nepal, Zambia, South Korea, Chile, Argentina, Haiti, Brazil, Uruguay, Malawi, Thailand, Bulgaria, Hungary, Zaire, Nigeria, and various parts of the former Soviet Union (playing a significant role in the defeat of the August 1991 attempted hard-line coup d'état).

In addition, mass political defiance has occurred in China, Burma,and Tibet in recent years. Although those struggles have not brought an end to the ruling dictatorships or occupations, they have exposed the brutal nature of those repressive regimes to the world community and have provided the populations with valuable experience with this form of struggle.

 

And from page 23:

 

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Recent history shows the vulnerability of dictatorships, and reveals that they can crumble in a relatively short time span: whereas ten years—1980-1990—were required to bring down the Communist dictatorship in Poland, in East Germany and Czechoslovakia in 1989 it occurred within weeks. In El Salvador and Guatemala in 1944 the struggles against the entrenched brutal military dictators required approximately two weeks each. The militarily powerful regime of the Shah in Iran was undermined in a few months. The Marcos dictatorship in the Philippines fell before people power within weeks in 1986: the United States government quickly abandoned President Marcos when the strength of the opposition became apparent. The attempted hard-line coup in the Soviet Union in August 1991 was blocked in days by political defiance. Thereafter, many of its long dominated constituent nations in only days, weeks, and months regained their independence.

The old preconception that violent means always work quickly and nonviolent means always require vast time is clearly not valid. Although much time may be required for changes in the underlying situation and society, the actual fight against a dictatorship sometimes occurs relatively quickly by nonviolent struggle.

 

He devotes some discussion to whether violent means can succeed and, similar to what Beaujangles has pointed out, he concludes that this is striking a dictatorship where it is strong rather than at its Achilles heel. Nor does he endorse military coups. From pages 13-14 he says:

 

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What is to be done in such circumstances? The obvious possibilities seem useless. Constitutional and legal barriers, judicial decisions, and public opinion are normally ignored by dictators. Understandably, reacting to the brutalities, torture, disappearances, and killings, people often have concluded that only violence can end a dictatorship. Angry victims have sometimes organized to fight the brutal dictators with whatever violent and military capacity they could muster, despite the odds being against them. These people have often fought bravely, at great cost in suffering and lives. Their accomplishments have sometimes been remarkable, but they rarely have won freedom. Violent rebellions can trigger brutal repression that frequently leaves the populace more helpless than before.

Whatever the merits of the violent option, however, one point is clear. By placing confidence in violent means, one has chosen the very type of struggle with which the oppressors nearly always have superiority. The dictators are equipped to apply violence overwhelmingly. However long or briefly these democrats can continue, eventually the harsh military realities usually be-come inescapable. The dictators almost always have superiority in military hardware, ammunition, transportation, and the size of military forces. Despite bravery, the democrats are (almost always) no match.

When conventional military rebellion is recognized as unrealistic,some dissidents then favor guerrilla warfare. However, guerrilla warfare rarely, if ever, benefits the oppressed population or ushers in a democracy. Guerrilla warfare is no obvious solution, particularly given the very strong tendency toward immense casualties among one's own people. The technique is no guarantor against failure, despite supporting theory and strategic analyses, and sometimes international backing. Guerrilla struggles often last a very long time. Civilian populations are often displaced by the ruling government, with immense human suffering and social dislocation.

Even when successful, guerrilla struggles often have significant long-term negative structural consequences. Immediately, the attacked regime becomes more dictatorial as a result of its countermeasures. If the guerrillas should finally succeed, the resulting new regime is often more dictatorial than its predecessor due to the centralizing impact of the expanded military forces and the weakening or destruction of the society's independent groups and institutions during the struggle—bodies that are vital in establishing and maintaining a democratic society. Opponents of dictatorships should look for another option.

 

One of the key steps in overcoming the dictatorship is to identify its weaknesses. In my view the Achilles heel of our current oppressors lies in the Covid narrative itself which is so full of holes, unlawful and unscientific that it shouldn't be difficult to disprove if only most people were operating out of common sense rather than fear and ignorance. Exposing the flawed narrative therefore needs to be central to the plan.

 

The Appendix from page 75 presents nearly 200 methods of non-violent action which includes communications and public demonstrations such as processions, public speeches and assemblies. Strikes, boycotts, non-cooperation and withdrawal from the social system are other methods also suggested among others. It is suggested that, the more such methods are employed, the greater the chances of success in bringing down the oppressors.

[GOYK]

1 minute ago, Morpheus said:

Right on brother!

 

Yeah fuck em. I just smile at people, kill em with kindness, move out the way of people. No hassle. 

im the same buddy, im not a dick with these people, im kind, polite, i talk......i think they struggle with this more.

 

iv always wanted to be stopped tho, but its never happened , not once,neither to my wife......all the way through this. not once, 

 

''why is this guy so normal, does he know theres a deadly virus''

[Orange Alert]

12 minutes ago, GOYK said:

 A work colleague of mine has been chosen out of the censes to a interview, with the usual scare mongery of the £1000 fine.

 

what do you make of that........

 

hes a sheep by the way....wish id av done mine now, if i knew i could win a fuckin interview

 

I am sure that would be an interesting interview.

 

 

[whatthefoxhat]

1 minute ago, GOYK said:

no i never knew either...interesting stuff.....there 35yrs and 30 yrs of age with 2 kids....this tells you everything.

 

wish it was me, fuck me id have some fun with that

Surprised at the fine thing as well,love to see some documentation regarding that,Big Brother commands you attend an interview to tell him about your shopping habits what tv you watch your religious denomination etc and if you dont he will fine you a grand,forget the fact you may have a life to live and far better things to be doing than attending census interviews big brother COMMANDS

[GOYK]

2 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

 

'From Dictatorship to Democracy' is widely considered to be an authority on non-violent revolutions. It was originally written in 1993 by Dr Gene Sharp, an American Political Scientist, at the request of a prominent Burmese democrat exile. The pamphlet was surreptitiously handed out among political dissidents the world over. I have linked to a pdf version below.

 

http://www.engaged-zen.org/PDFarchive/From_Dictatorship_to_Democracy.pdf

 

Dr Sharp concludes that non-violent means are far more effective for opposing dictatorships. He also gives examples of where this has worked. From page 11:

 

 

And from page 23:

 

 

He devotes some discussion to whether violent means can succeed and, similar to what Beaujangles has pointed out, he concludes that this is striking a dictatorship where it is strong rather than at its Achilles heel. Nor does he endorse military coups. From pages 13-14 he says:

 

 

One of the key steps in overcoming the dictatorship is to identify its weaknesses. In my view the Achilles heel of our current oppressors lies in the Covid narrative itself which is so full of holes, unlawful and unscientific that it shouldn't be difficult to disprove if only most people were operating out of common sense rather than fear and ignorance. Exposing the flawed narrative therefore needs to be central to the plan.

 

The Appendix from page 75 presents nearly 200 methods of non-violent action which includes communications and public demonstrations such as processions, public speeches and assemblies. Strikes, boycotts, non-cooperation and withdrawal from the social system are other methods also suggested among others. It is suggested that, the more such methods are employed, the greater the chances of success in bringing down the oppressors.

March straight into, the bbc, itv  and sky...that would send a message. march straight to chris whittys front door...that would send a message.  

[Velma]

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Not going to happen. My friends and family might not agree on everything, but they're not total cucks. They will laugh in your face if you try pushing that shunning shite around here.

 

Then, you would just lie about it, "Have you had your vaccine pal?" - "Aye mate, I've had four jabs now and a booster...."

 

 

[Beaujangles]

14 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

So what is the answer then ?, the question is very simple ,how do you remove a tyrannical government from power? legal means ? the legal system has goalposts on wheels,peaceful protest ? sit back and hope someone does 'something' as long as it means you dont have to get your hands dirty ? and it may have escaped your attention but innocents are dying on a daily basis as a result in a misguided beief in a medical experiment and will continue to die in increasing numbers including children.Do you really think that is ok?

I`m very aware that people are dying from a ``vaccine`` and have posted many times how I feel about it, in that it is disgusting.

 

I think by standing up and resisting everything so far, shows Im not afraid to get ``hands dirty`` in the area of resistance. I doubt I have the physical ability to take them on....but I can assure you that if anyone of those doing the bidding of the ones behind it all were to threaten or attempt to harm anyone that i witnessed I would be the first to use whatever weapon I could get my hands on to resist and defend.

 

A  tyrannical government is as strong as its footsoldiers... and as weak as those who support it. Im not an advocate for government rule - in fact people putting morons in power that have no clue about anything except power is a sure ingredient for failure... insofar as a free people.

 

Like you, I dont have a perfect answer...I do see value in protests from the viewpoint of seeing how many are not on board with tyranny.  I actually think it will come to army involvement and from there it will rely on whether those in the armies are  with their fellow man or with their ``masters``

 

 

14 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

 

And of course disarming the populace has been deliberate ,cant have the great unwashed with a means of defending themselves (although that is now a moot point with regards to the advances in 3d printing) .Note Uncle Joes mutterings about gun control in the states,they will continue to attempt to disarm the populace and before any US citizens start squeaking about 2nd amendment rights and how many guns you have take a look at whats happened so far and how much shooting you have actually done,not a good record so far is it?

 

I dont have the answer but i do know that defeatist attitudes will lead to the body count of 'innocents' to start to grow exponentially

       

I`m not sure who you are angry at - but hopefully it is those who are creating this in the first place. Yes, its enraging watching people submit to the tyranny - wear masks, take vaccines, albeit from fear or mere stupidity. But please do not assume that some of us are defeatist or ready to roll over and play dead. 

[truth_seeker90]

For a revolution to be lasting and of benefit it has to change the minds and hearts of the population, and this has to be done peacefully. If a violent revolution occurs, it only goes from one control system to another, often making things even worse.

[whatthefoxhat]

'' if only most people were operating out of common sense rather than fear and ignorance. Exposing the flawed narrative therefore needs to be central to the plan. ''

 

All well and good but how many more lives have to be lost before there is mass uptake of non violent action?

 

From everything i have witnessed so far my hopes are incredibly low for the uptake of non violent action.

The nation gets stupefied at the sight of baking programmes i cant see them moving far from that position anytime soon

[vinny79]

27 minutes ago, GOYK said:

il be using this information in a letter im going to put to all schools  in my area this week.

 

thank you for sharing.

Will join you 

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

Will be a while before that happens, they still have their bread and circuses.

[Lamp Of Truth]

16 minutes ago, truth_seeker90 said:

For a revolution to be lasting and of benefit it has to change the minds and hearts of the population, and this has to be done peacefully. If a violent revolution occurs, it only goes from one control system to another, often making things even worse.

 

Out of likes. 

 

If people don't see beyond political parties/politicians and accept that it's the likes of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers that have been controlling everything from behind the scenes for centuries then it'll just be a case of out with the old and back in with the old.

 

Edited May 5, 2021 by Lamp Of Truth

[Saved]

1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Not going to happen. My friends and family might not agree on everything, but they're not total cucks. They will laugh in your face if you try pushing that shunning shite around here.

Shunning - a doctrinal word in the world of cults.

[Saved]

1 hour ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

I could watch that all night

[EnigmaticWorld]

1 hour ago, Velma said:

 

Then, you would just lie about it, "Have you had your vaccine pal?" - "Aye mate, I've had four jabs now and a booster...."

 

 

 

A lot my pals won't even need to lie. We're mostly Christians or Muslims who are ready for whatever they throw at us. We won't be turning on innocent people. Not sure how the Godless will react though.

[whatthefoxhat]

 

 

I do see your point totally about hearts and minds and agree that whatever replaces the current ruling system coud be far far worse,i have spent the last year taking part in my own personal hearts and minds but i'm at the point now where i'm beginning to realise the whole shitshow is about non violent subjugation of the population,'they' dont need arms and violence to accomplish this they have an army of psychologists/psychiatrists,behavioural experts and other assorted 'specialists' available 24/7 combine that with a bought and paid for media and a shift away from armed conflict and you have the perfect petri dish for a successful outcome.As i said before if violent revolution occurs it will self instigate from a collective mindset and the government know this hence the measures taken to isolate the population and put barriers to social interaction at every step of the way

 

I really hope deep down that because they have brought forward the original plan (the original date being 2050 for the completion of the nwo) that their greed and impatience will be their achilles heel,how to expose that and make it vulnerable is a whole different discussion but the sooner it happens the better

 

People are dying whilst we consider violent/non violent revolution ,people who potentialy had a lot to give to society,that breaks my heart however my broken heart wont stop it happening only a mass collective voice will do that

[Thewoodsman]

1 hour ago, Pina Colada said:

Glad she's on side 

Oh shes had rows. Not long ago someone gave her a mask to put on in a shop and she threw it in their face and walked out. Here masks are mandated for everyone even outside. She goes to the market, no mask. She walks past the police, they've never said a word. Shes been a beacon of light in my life. A real covid rebel lol 

[Liberty]

53 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

The psychology report in the masks in schools case makes interesting reading,the psychologist who compiled it deserves some praise for speaking out as frankly as she did

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xIJIITUjLDkdPcysyQMPvustdW1pyWoY/view

Thanks. Saved to read later. 

[Thewoodsman]

14 minutes ago, Saved said:

Shunning - a doctrinal word in the world of cults.

We need to go back to rural communities. Leave them to the cities. Come to the boonies folks and let the cities burn. Run to the mountains!!!!!

[oddsnsods]

19 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Will be a while before that happens, they still have their bread and circuses.

 

The Normie finally wakes from his coma.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[whatthefoxhat]

4 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said:

We need to go back to rural communities. Leave them to the cities. Come to the boonies folks and let the cities burn. Run to the mountains!!!!!

If only i could...mountains are in short supply round here

[whatthefoxhat]

1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

The Normie finally wakes from his coma.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You wish...if and when they awake from their induced comas all they will be concerned with is if bake off is still on and what they missed in eastenders street

[Thewoodsman]

12 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

A lot my pals won't even need to lie. We're mostly Christians or Muslims who are ready for whatever they throw at us. We won't be turning on innocent people. Not sure how the Godless will react though.

I wont lie.  I'm a god fearing,  follower of Christ and I wont lie. It breaks my heart I'll probably never get back home again. Have a handful of great friends back home whom I miss dearly. Will probably never see them again I shouldn't think. None of them will take the vaccine or lie so likely we wont hang out again. One is a drummer of a very big band in the uk. One of the UK's biggest ever bands and he says he will not take it.  He told me blow the music. He will go back to wood work.

Another friend who is theologically on the same page as me joked today hes building a submarine. It's sad really because I gave him some land where I live and started building him a cabin which in a few years he was going to come and have but he stayed to look after his elderly Mum as his dad recently passed. Him I have known since we were toddlers and that one makes me sad but hey ho were both on the same page.