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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I think we're leaving the clown world age and moving into the demon world age. Clown world will look like utopia compared to the horrors that we will soon see.

Sadly true. Out of likes.

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7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I think we're leaving the clown world age and moving into the demon world age. Clown world will look like utopia compared to the horrors that we will soon see.

 

I have said in the past we are in the age of irrationality. It is stage proceeding systemic crash. 

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1 hour ago, Saved said:

God is patient and long-suffering, desiring that none perish. However, nobody's judgement is sleeping. Anybody trusting in their own righteousness is on as dangerous ground as the overtly wicked.

 

Aint no 'god' gonna save you or anybody else. We need no outside source, we have the power to save ourselves, but it requires true soul work not just being awake or parroting a book that was revised, re-translated and changed many times.

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1 hour ago, Saved said:

God is patient and long-suffering, desiring that none perish. However, nobody's judgement is sleeping. Anybody trusting in their own righteousness is on as dangerous ground as the overtly wicked.

I am not sure about that summation but I am +ve that I am not a random accident, that this existence is designed and that this life is preparation for the next.

Those who don't tend to struggle with right and wrong, ethics and morals

 

Also I am +ve those who blindly follow teaching from the pulpit will blindly follow anyone claiming authority over their self and they will neglect their health believing it's someone else's responsibility

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9 minutes ago, perpetual said:

But if mRNA binds with vaxxed people's DNA to reproduce hybrid mDNA

Rna is myth. Ribo has only ever been seen in dead, chemically processed muscle cells under Electromicroscope

 

Rna is an artifact of the production process

 

Dr Harold Hillman was not a popular fellow in scientific circles

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I am furious. Thought my mum was "awake". Invested hours into educating her this year and last into the nwo. Thought she was taking it in of course it seems now she wasn't. 

 

I asked her whether she had it earlier and she wouldn't swear on my life which she usually does. And she smirked which gave it away. 

 

I cannot believe it. And her boyfreind who i work with although a normie was taking a anti vax stance which i thought was good. Of course he was put up in this lie too. 

 

I am devastated. So thats my grandparents, both parents, and my brother the weasel will no doubt get it as well. 

 

Oh and the reasoning so they can have a holiday in september. Told her she was selfish. Not talking to her now. 

 

So they are just like the rest of this spastic population sacrifice everyone else for a week on the beach. Wouldn't mind but at least with my dad he goes out and explores in nature and culture. These two fucking sit on a beach and use thr swimming pools with other british holiday makers. 

 

Mum is the closest thing i got qnd she let me down big time. 

 

You know whats humiliating? All those hours invested in her and all the time it was falling on deaf ears and they lied deliberately. 

 

Morons.

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2 hours ago, lake said:

 

I consider that it ties a few things together.

 

But first regarding the 'no virus' exists concept.

I sit in the 'Terrain' camp. That is to say that, in Nature, virus's most likely do not infect people and do not exist. 

BUT this is NOT of Nature.

It is synthetic, made by humans (or fucking psychos really) and CAN exist and CAN fuck people up!

 

Back to point.

If they have used a transmissible injection then it is most likely the 'Weak Transmission' type which has an R0 <1

It would make sense as this is vastly less likely to 'infect' them, only spreading between close family (<<<< which they wish to destroy anyway) and then losing any transmission.

The constant push for track and trace along with the aggressive census (which they state will be the last one done in this form) reads to me as a way not to track a re-branded flu but to track their synthetic viral transmission.

 

 

 

Like you, I am in the "no virus" terrain theory camp so do not believe that, if a Covid injection transmission phenomenon is currently taking place, it is not via means of "viral shedding".

 

However, anecdotal evidence does seem to suggest that there may be some form of transmission taking place from the injections. Dr Kaufman has suggested that this could be psychosomatic which is one possible explanation for some or perhaps all of the effects.

 

Having now found the time to look at the two publications you linked to properly, there is certainly the ability for vaccines to transmit, including weakly as you say. In particular, viral vector injections are named as one type of shot which could offer this effect (page 45 of the 2018 John Hopkins publication - https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2018/181009-gcbr-tech-report.pdf). This publication dates to a time before mRNA injections started to be put to use so we are lacking information as to whether this types of jab may also transmit.

 

The second 2016 Royal Society publication (https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rspb.2016.1903) suggests that weak transmission would pass the effects on to "susceptible" individuals (page 2) but I could not find a further explanation as to who would be considered susceptible. Maybe it is in the document and I missed it? My initial thoughts, however, are that this could mean those with immune systems functioning less than optimally

 

It seems that you think susceptible individuals could be close family members, so can I ask if you think this transmission would be caused by either: (1) the close contact that comes between family members or; (2) because the injections have somehow been designed to identify those with a similar genetic make up?

 

A good point was made earlier in this thread that transmissable vaccines may place the elite at risk too. This rationale is also part of why DI believes that Covid-19 is not a real pathogen, including in the form of a bio-weapon, as this would come with the unnecessary risk of it getting out of control. This makes sense to me and is one of the reasons why I do not believe Covid-19 is caused by a deadly pathogen. However, "weak transmissability" of the injections may mitigate or eliminate the risk to the controllers and/or also what is known as "reversion to wild-type virulence" as has been observed with the oral polio vaccine. They would also have the knowledge and means to make them less "susceptible". So perhaps you may be on to something.

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8 hours ago, The Old Knight said:

 

Sell up and by some land near the welsh coast if you can with some woodland nearby. When they turn all the food synthetic you can just go fishing and live of the sea and you'll have somewhere to park your camper. 😎

 

Thanks for the suggestion TOK but we already live on the coast. We'll need to move somewhere more rural if we are going to be safe from everyone.

But hey, thanks again, much appreciated.👍

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34 minutes ago, zArk said:

Rna is myth. Ribo has only ever been seen in dead, chemically processed muscle cells under Electromicroscope

 

Rna is an artifact of the production process

 

Dr Harold Hillman was not a popular fellow in scientific circles

I don't know - I remember it from 30 years, LaVie LaVie FRench cartoon, then biology in school - when cell divide it releases RNA so if there is foreign free RNA it can enter the cell? Eventually mess it up in a long run 🙄

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38 minutes ago, perpetual said:

 

I don't quite understand what you are trying to say.

Without trying to derail the thread too much, we were told mrna is a copy of your DNA so that it can replicate.

 

Ribonucleic acid is a wrongly interpreted substance. It's only found in muscle cells under an em which requires processing.

dr Hillman says it's an artifact and doesn't exist in live living muscle cells

 

welcome to question everythjng

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53 minutes ago, Fluke said:

I am furious. Thought my mum was "awake". Invested hours into educating her this year and last into the nwo. Thought she was taking it in of course it seems now she wasn't. 

 

I asked her whether she had it earlier and she wouldn't swear on my life which she usually does. And she smirked which gave it away. 

 

I cannot believe it. And her boyfreind who i work with although a normie was taking a anti vax stance which i thought was good. Of course he was put up in this lie too. 

 

I am devastated. So thats my grandparents, both parents, and my brother the weasel will no doubt get it as well. 

 

Oh and the reasoning so they can have a holiday in september. Told her she was selfish. Not talking to her now. 

 

So they are just like the rest of this spastic population sacrifice everyone else for a week on the beach. Wouldn't mind but at least with my dad he goes out and explores in nature and culture. These two fucking sit on a beach and use thr swimming pools with other british holiday makers. 

 

Mum is the closest thing i got qnd she let me down big time. 

 

You know whats humiliating? All those hours invested in her and all the time it was falling on deaf ears and they lied deliberately. 

 

Morons.

Same with my mum and two sisters. Regarding my mum, I think she just went along with what I was saying for the sake of avoiding any conflict. She would agree with Satan himself if she thought it would avoid an argument.

 

My two sisters have long believed I am a nutjob, so that's a bit different. They just never engaged my many social media  posts on the subject. Their silence told me everything.

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1 minute ago, Saved said:

Same with my mum and two sisters. Regarding my mum, I think she just went along with what I was saying for the sake of avoiding any conflict. She would agree with Satan himself if she thought it would avoid an argument.

 

My two sisters have long believed I am a nutjob, so that's a bit different. They just never engaged my many social media  posts on the subject. Their silence told me everything.

Sorry to hear that Saved. Its sad isn't it. She knew i would go mad. 

 

But ultimately i told her to do her research and advised against taking the booster jab. I wont try and stop her even if i could. 

 

But yeah she was humouring me all that time. 

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1 hour ago, Fluke said:

I am furious. Thought my mum was "awake". Invested hours into educating her this year and last into the nwo. Thought she was taking it in of course it seems now she wasn't. 

 

I asked her whether she had it earlier and she wouldn't swear on my life which she usually does. And she smirked which gave it away. 

 

I cannot believe it. And her boyfreind who i work with although a normie was taking a anti vax stance which i thought was good. Of course he was put up in this lie too. 

 

I am devastated. So thats my grandparents, both parents, and my brother the weasel will no doubt get it as well. 

 

Oh and the reasoning so they can have a holiday in september. Told her she was selfish. Not talking to her now. 

 

So they are just like the rest of this spastic population sacrifice everyone else for a week on the beach. Wouldn't mind but at least with my dad he goes out and explores in nature and culture. These two fucking sit on a beach and use thr swimming pools with other british holiday makers. 

 

Mum is the closest thing i got qnd she let me down big time. 

 

You know whats humiliating? All those hours invested in her and all the time it was falling on deaf ears and they lied deliberately. 

 

Morons.

 

Damn, that's unfortunate, Fluke. My mother hasn't taken the jab, but I'm in a similar boat. She agrees with me on everything when I speak to her, but then I leave her alone for a bit, then her cognitive dissonance kicks in and she starts parroting normie talking points again like we're really in some dangerous pandemic. I'm going round in bloody circles. I would do anything to get my mother off Facebook so she doesn't give in to peer pressure as I'm sure that's where she is being influenced.

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3 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

I grew up just outside Manchester. We had a great high street and my mum would drag me along on a Saturday morning to help her shop. She was on first-name terms with the shopkeepers. That's all gone now and has been replaced by a bland, one-size-fits- all bunch of chain stores.

 

Ah! those were the days.:classic_sad:

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18 hours ago, Fluke said:

They get them while they are young. Useful idiots to jump on the bandwagon. 

 

Ultimately it wont be their fault. Their elders have failed to protect them from the establishment in regards to the convid and all the other propaganda they are force fed. Not just talking about edgy teenagers but seriously young children when their brain is still developing. 

 

The "normies" that know things are wrong, often well meaning tend to gravitate towards Hitchens, alex bellend, conservative semi mainstream speakers that speak "common sense". The thing is they assume its incompetence on all fronts. I would use occam's razor and say that its deliberate. For most people its too painful to make that leap. 

 

 

 

 

 

Completely agree, too many people that can see something's not right with the direction the world is going in are still too scared either consciously or at a subconscious level to look at information that would shatter their sense of self and so gravitate towards alternate info which points out what's going wrong but never attempts to explain WHY it's going wrong.

The New World Order/Illuminati explanation is really the only one that makes sense that I'm aware of but too many aren't willing to look at that information seriously, at least not yet.

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42 minutes ago, Human10 said:

I don't know - I remember it from 30 years, LaVie LaVie FRench cartoon, then biology in school - when cell divide it releases RNA so if there is foreign free RNA it can enter the cell? Eventually mess it up in a long run 🙄

 

we all remember the lessons however as Dr Harold Hillman points out RNA has only ever been found in muscle cells. No other body cell has displayed RNA.

additionally its only viewable under electron microscope which requires 1. dead cells 2. chemicals to stain and prepare

he then concludes that RNA is an artifact of the process and specific to muscle cells

RNA is a myth

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1 hour ago, perpetual said:

 

We still need some form of currency for convenience but not controlled by CBDC i.e. must be decentralised and you become your own bank. In order to set-up such community, one needs to buy a plot of land and people have already started cloud funds. If anything, this year gives you that jump start and if you miss it, you'd have to wait another 4 years in which time things may be escalated quite a bit. I would imagined that there will be a small pockets of communities, quietly living happily as human. Mass adoption of this living style will not suit everyone.

Personally I don't believe we need currency of any kind. Its all a trap to keep us subservient.

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