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6 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Bear in mind in relying on any advice or guidance we give you here that we're not privy to all the facts, and you don't say if the drugs/treatment is critical/urgent and necessary, such as anti-biotics, or something that could be deferred until a complaint is resolved.

 

Is it possible your friend could go private, even if only temporarily, to continue treatment until the hospital staff come to their senses?

 

Who at the hospital is telling your friend this?  Is it somebody with clinical acumen, such as a doctor or nurse practitioner, or is it an administrator/manager type person? 

 

In any event, your friend should start with the following question and statement to the hospital.  This should be put verbally and in writing.

 

I have taken advice on my position. You are proposing that I receive a vaccination, which is medical treatment, as a condition of receiving other necessary medical treatment.  Can you please explain how the proposed vaccination is relevant and necessary for my medical condition and the treatment I need?  In the absence of a convincing explanation from you, I do not believe the vaccination is medically necessary and I do not consent.  You will, or should, know that without my informed consent, any attempt to coerce me into taking a vaccination is morally questionable, unlawful, possibly a criminal offence, and certainly a serious professional disciplinary matter.  I will be e-mailing you urgently to confirm this statement.  I will require a prompt response.  I must warn you that if I do not receive a satisfactory response within 24 hours and you continue to withhold treatment, I will be taking the matter up with the hospital management, the NHS clinical commissioning group and the General Medical Council, and I will possibly also be informing the police.  A copy of all correspondence will be sent to my solicitors for their file.

 

You should obtain a copy of the hospital's complaints procedure and then e-mail the above to the complaints team, and c.c. the Chief Executive of the hospital trust.

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8 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Bear in mind in relying on any advice or guidance we give you here that we're not privy to all the facts, and you don't say if the drugs/treatment is critical/urgent and necessary, such as anti-biotics, or something that could be deferred until a complaint is resolved.

 

Is it possible your friend could go private, even if only temporarily, to continue treatment until the hospital staff come to their senses?

 

Who at the hospital is telling your friend this?  Is it somebody with clinical acumen, such as a doctor or nurse practitioner, or is it an administrator/manager type person? 

 

In any event, your friend should start with the following question and statement to the hospital.  This should be put verbally and in writing.

 

I have taken advice on my position. You are proposing that I receive a vaccination, which is medical treatment, as a condition of receiving other necessary medical treatment.  Can you please explain how the proposed vaccination is relevant and necessary for my medical condition and the treatment I need?  In the absence of a convincing explanation from you, I do not believe the vaccination is medically necessary and I do not consent.  You will, or should, know that without my informed consent, any attempt to coerce me into taking a vaccination is morally questionable, unlawful, possibly a criminal offence, and certainly a serious professional disciplinary matter.  I will be e-mailing you urgently to confirm this statement.  I will require a prompt response.  I must warn you that if I do not receive a satisfactory response within 24 hours and you continue to withhold treatment, I will be taking the matter up with the hospital management, the NHS clinical commissioning group and the General Medical Council, and I will possibly also be informing the police.  A copy of all correspondence will be sent to my solicitors for their file.

 

You should obtain a copy of the hospital's complaints procedure and then e-mail the above to the complaints team, and c.c. the Chief Executive of the hospital trust.

Wonderful many many thanks. I'll get that in writing now. 

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3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Bodies piling up like Wuhan?

Its a blatant psyop & weve provided the evidence.

Kind of gets on my tits now explaining.

 

 

Covid: Three cases of Indian variant found in "Leicester" 🙄

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-56908995

You dont have to explain anything to me. I don't know what's going on in India and neither do you I would presume.

I think india is leading the world in vaccinations, I believe as I'm sure you do that these vaccines will kill and maim.  India are susceptible to side effects due to poor health and overcrowding and generally filthy environment.

All I was saying was that if there were a rise in deaths in india you can bet the house it's due to vaccines. Indian variant equals vaccine damaged/ allergic reaction. 

 

You dont know what's going on in india. And so what some police doing the satan dance? What does that prove? The police in india are so corrupt, india is a massive country, etc etc. 

 

You have nothing to teach me sir. 

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11 hours ago, perpetual said:

 

Yes. In this forum, people are dismissing 'shedding' theory but we just don't know IF it is true or not for sure.

The thing is though, if it happens to be true and affect those around them....we have to really treat it like a virus this time around. The question is, how long are you able to keep off from these people? Unless you live on a mountan top.... or start wearing a space suit, you gotta buy food in shops, go to a post office/bank, get on a public transport etc....

I find the shedding theory just that. In my exprience i havent ever seen it. Doesnt mean its not possible but im not convinced myself.Also im not living in fear of it either. If shedding is happening i would say it would be within the first couple of weeks post vax. Thats my take on it.

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1 hour ago, lake said:

Have they or haven't they?

If they have was it the weak transmission type?

 

58285634_2021-04-3012_20.57www.centerforhealthsecurity.orgd32ea075367e.jpg.d2b2a9894bf67ce16a5a876304ce378a.jpg

 

What is the technology?

Self-spreading vaccines—also known as transmissible or self-propagating vaccines—are genetically engineered to move through populations in the same way as communicable diseases

 

Read all about it from page 45 of the document (page 47 of the pdf)

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2018/181009-gcbr-tech-report.pdf

 

One of the cited papers;

Eradicating infectious disease using weakly transmissible vaccines

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rspb.2016.1903

 

Our results demonstrate that vaccines with even a modest ability to transmit can significantly lower the incidence of infectious disease and facilitate eradication efforts. Consequently, weakly transmissible vaccines could provide an important tool for controlling infectious disease in wild and domestic animal populations and for reducing the risks of emerging infectious disease in humans

 

You've just beaten me to it as I have just come across this publication this morning.

 

There have also been some mainstream media reports on self spreading vaccines being touted as a potential solution to the so-called deadly virus and other pandemics.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/01/28/could-self-spreading-vaccines-stop-global-coronavirus-pandemic/

 

Here are some screenshots of one such article from behind the Telegraph paywall.

 

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And here are some more examples.

 

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https://www.econotimes.com/COVID-19-cure-Scientists-plan-to-develop-self-spreading-coronavirus-vaccine-1592958

 

https://thebulletin.org/2020/09/scientists-are-working-on-vaccines-that-spread-like-a-disease-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1340352/coronavirus-vaccine-covid19-self-spreading-vaccine

 

https://www.popsci.com/contagious-vaccine-virus/

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15 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said:

You dont have to explain anything to me. I don't know what's going on in India and neither do you I would presume.

I know its hyped up shit as I check the death stats.

15 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said:

I think india is leading the world in vaccinations,

Dunno where you got that idea?

15 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said:

 

I believe as I'm sure you do that these vaccines will kill and maim.  India are susceptible to side effects due to poor health and overcrowding and generally filthy environment.

Yes as I already stated 27,000 people die a day in India.

Dead bodies on the street are a common site.

15 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said:

All I was saying was that if there were a rise in deaths in india you can bet the house it's due to vaccines. Indian variant equals vaccine damaged/ allergic reaction. 

Indian variant is baalshit.

15 minutes ago, Thewoodsman said:

 

You dont know what's going on in india. And so what some police doing the satan dance? What does that prove? The police in india are so corrupt, india is a massive country, etc etc. 

 

You have nothing to teach me sir. 

Quit trying to troll me then.

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1 hour ago, GOYK said:

iv just watched a video of a guy sat in a hospital bed with a broken neck, refused treatment because he refuses PCR test.

 

what medice......get on pharmacy2u......

And what if he had covid? Would they refuse to treat him? 🥴

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10 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

I know its hyped up shit as I check the death stats.

Dunno where you got that idea?

Yes as I already stated 27,000 people die a day in India.

Dead bodies on the street are a common site.

Indian variant is baalshit.

Quit trying to troll me then.

Oh come on guys. I think you are on the same side after all... Peace. LOve. Rainbows. Unicorns. We are all in this together ;)

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2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Rogans stating the obvious & you dont need a phd to figure it out yourself, as around 40 children under the age of 20 allegedly have died in the uk. 32 of them with underlying conditions..in other words they tested positive within 60 days of a positive clownworld test.


One minute Fauci states asymptomatic people are not the cause or spread of viruses, then contradicts himself like he contradicts himself on masks & even to the extreme of claiming two masks are safer. So hes an obvious two face trickster with zero credibility.

 

Rogans an owned shill, like Alex Jones. But as far as mainstream go's hes all you get.

Probably apologise later for calling out the media pharma scam & agenda to euthanise the children.

Give credit where credit is due. I dont see anyone else in the mainstream trying to stop children being euthanised.

 

"you ever try Dmt?"

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16 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

You've just beaten me to it as I have just come across this publication this morning.

 

There have also been some mainstream media reports on self spreading vaccines being touted as a potential solution to the so-called deadly virus and other pandemics.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/01/28/could-self-spreading-vaccines-stop-global-coronavirus-pandemic/

 

Here are some screenshots of one such article from behind the Telegraph paywall.

 

image.png.b0b0241e16e59f3bf1ca505f97246b06.png

image.png.7de044da7c830dff23fb72ca27474a11.png

image.png.869ebf16fdbfcee037bc96ce7a8da053.png

image.png.8b49981e4d80c9ad24e7fae18050ff13.png

 

And here are some more examples.

 

image.jpeg.627fc89a7ceca92585c6b9aee32f9fa7.jpeg

 

https://www.econotimes.com/COVID-19-cure-Scientists-plan-to-develop-self-spreading-coronavirus-vaccine-1592958

 

https://thebulletin.org/2020/09/scientists-are-working-on-vaccines-that-spread-like-a-disease-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1340352/coronavirus-vaccine-covid19-self-spreading-vaccine

 

https://www.popsci.com/contagious-vaccine-virus/

Now I'm sure... This is the end of our civilisation... :(

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5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I guess it would depend if their transhumanist goals are intended to include them as well or just the general populace

 

It would come down to whether or not all their moves to merge humans with machines for exampl

e through elon musks 'neuralink' or through facebooks work on virtual reality is to create an alternative reality where the masses are meat robots controlled by the artificial intelligence that is at the centre of the smart grid 'internet of things' that they are building in which case 'transhumanism' is really just a way of controlling and euthanising the masses or if the elites also intend to somehow transcend their own physical bodies by themselves uploading their consciousness into their virtual reality in order to achieve immortality in which case it wouldn't matter then to them if they trashed our environment and made it unsustainable for the human body

 

If you look at things like fukishima and believe it wasn't an accident and you look at how they are firing so many 5G satellites into space that will beam radiation down on the planet and you look at how much they are polluting the environment with endocrine disrupting chemicals and how they are covertly spraying nanoparticulates into the atmosphere it becomes hard not to conclude that they are trying to make earth uninhabitable so either they plan themselves to disappear under ground or head off planet to mars or they have a plan to somehow make themselves immune eg CRISPR gene therapy or transhumanism or they are just so insanely reckless that they just don't care

 

I personally don't think they are insanely reckless. I personally believe they are following a gameplan

 

Have you ever seen that video clip of a global map showing a time lapse of all the nuclear explosions on the planet? Watching that you can either conclude that the world is run by insanely reckless people or people intent on irradiating the surface of our planet

 

 

I was always wondering why they do this... Insane. If God existed he would already wiped this lot 😣

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5 hours ago, The Old Knight said:

 

Sell up and by some land near the welsh coast if you can with some woodland nearby. When they turn all the food synthetic you can just go fishing and live of the sea and you'll have somewhere to park your camper. 😎

 

They are going to make it illegal for us peasants to own a bit of land - they will repossess all of it. They will make fishing (even sea fishing) illegal to "protect" the sea, or some other nonsense about fish carrying a deadly disease. Camp fires will also be illegal. Drones will watch and report your activities so the authorities arrive. There will be no fuel for the Camper Van as all cars will become driverless. 

 

We are fucked. There is no where to escape when this Orwellian nightmare comes into fruition within the next decade or so.

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Il tell you whats happening in INDIA................absolute fuck all thats on MSM.

 

this morning i watched a live feed of people dressed in space suits get chased out of a village by people with rocks and machetes. India are fighting for their lives.

 

And people are getting paid to do the test, the equivalent of 3 months earnings...its a mish mash of people refusing the bollocks and fighting, people getting paid to go along with the scam, and other illnesses getting diagnosed as covid.......

 

hang on a minute

 

🤔

 

sounds like everywhere else in this fucking planet where the anglo-americans have got into.

 

The moment the BBC start training your reporters...your fucked

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1 hour ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Bear in mind in relying on any advice or guidance we give you here that we're not privy to all the facts, and you don't say if the drugs/treatment is critical/urgent and necessary, such as anti-biotics, or something that could be deferred until a complaint is resolved.

 

Is it possible your friend could go private, even if only temporarily, to continue treatment until the hospital staff come to their senses?

 

Who at the hospital is telling your friend this?  Is it somebody with clinical acumen, such as a doctor or nurse practitioner, or is it an administrator/manager type person? 

 

In any event, your friend should start with the following question and statement to the hospital.  This should be put verbally and in writing.

 

I have taken advice on my position. You are proposing that I receive a vaccination, which is medical treatment, as a condition of receiving other necessary medical treatment.  Can you please explain how the proposed vaccination is relevant and necessary for my medical condition and the treatment I need?  In the absence of a convincing explanation from you, I do not believe the vaccination is medically necessary and I do not consent.  You will, or should, know that without my informed consent, any attempt to coerce me into taking a vaccination is morally questionable, unlawful, possibly a criminal offence, and certainly a serious professional disciplinary matter.  I will be e-mailing you urgently to confirm this statement.  I will require a prompt response.  I must warn you that if I do not receive a satisfactory response within 24 hours and you continue to withhold treatment, I will be taking the matter up with the hospital management, the NHS clinical commissioning group and the General Medical Council, and I will possibly also be informing the police.  A copy of all correspondence will be sent to my solicitors for their file.

 

You should obtain a copy of the hospital's complaints procedure and then e-mail the above to the complaints team, and c.c. the Chief Executive of the hospital trust.

TY - I copied this paragraph. Could be helpful in the future which is getting more an more unbearable 😣 

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9 minutes ago, sambaking7 said:

 

They are going to make it illegal for us peasants to own a bit of land - they will repossess all of it. They will make fishing (even sea fishing) illegal to "protect" the sea, or some other nonsense about fish carrying a deadly disease. Camp fires will also be illegal. Drones will watch and report your activities so the authorities arrive. There will be no fuel for the Camper Van as all cars will become driverless. 

 

We are fucked. There is no where to escape when this Orwellian nightmare comes into fruition within the next decade or so.

We will not give up without fight... 

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10 hours ago, alexa said:

Isn't this what they always wanted ?

Yes. Been saying it for years. Like many bad ideas, it originated in the USA with the advent of Wal-Mart. The would set up on the outskirts of small town USA and, before long, the local shops, which could not compete, closed leaving only Wally World standing. Someone wrote a book about it called the Wal-Mart Effect, which is a good read if you can still find it,

 

I grew up just outside Manchester. We had a great high street and my mum would drag me along on a Saturday morning to help her shop. She was on first-name terms with the shopkeepers. That's all gone now and has been replaced by a bland, one-size-fits- all bunch of chain stores.

 

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21 minutes ago, Human10 said:

We will not give up without fight... 

 

The fight is long over mate. We lost a long time ago. If this was a boxing match, we were knocked out inside 20 seconds and left in a vegetative state.

 

The only chance we would have had is if the normies were empathetic, well spirited individuals who were just blissfully unaware of the horrific agenda for humanity. At least then, if they came across all of this information then they would be outraged and then transfer over, so to speak, on to our side. 

 

Alas... the normies are not like that. Half of them love the tyranny. They love the compliance. Deep down they are little, spineless, bedwetting tyrants. Then the other have simply do not care. They are brain dead  - possibly spiritually dead. It is impossible to get enough of them onside.

 

 

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