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1 hour ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

Its OK for millionaire footballers to mingle and hug - But for us plebs its ILLEGAL 

 

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Agree totally, but they'd just use the excuse that they've all been tested negative.

 

 

Not to deviate too much from the original thread, but was watching the Pitters/Sugden boxing the other day, got totally hacked off with it. Why?  The folks in each corner had masks and visors. Couldn't hear what they were saying -- all mumbled. It's all just for show.

 

+ every single time the camera panned across the ring, what was there? An Everlast banner that read "Black Lives Matter". 

 

Completely ruined it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

Its OK for millionaire footballers to mingle and hug - But for us plebs its ILLEGAL 

 

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Nah I don't agree with that statement, this needs to be encouraged. There's been enough mask wearing and elbow tapping celebrations as it is, let them celebrate/commiserate one of the biggest nights of their careers like human beings.

 

The only reason professional athletes with close to zero health risk from this virus are so protected and masked up is to set an example to everyone watching. This is a better one. 

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So, back around 2009-2010 when I had my major awakening, the one that snapped me out of the fiat currency spell of greed and lust for money and material objects, and made me see the world as it really is, I had been searching all day every day almost as if it was my new career or job, except for taking a break on Saturday and Sunday a little to rest.

 

I had saved enough money to where I didn't have to work for a long while and believe it or not I had grown bored with the many material toys I had. I had lived such a fast paced lifestyle for years, like twenty plus years of my life from my late teens to my mid thirties that I got burned out I guess you could say, and then a few bad decisions I made had led to my awakening.

 

That's around the time, in 2009, when I found this series called, The Arrivals.

 

I know this is not Corona "virus" related, but if you know of any people who are just now waking up and they are receptive, have them watch this series. Here is Part 2 which shows George Carlin speaking, and he pretty much calls it like it is, and I think this was back in 1988-1995. But yet here we are decades later and a lot of people are still sleeping. I'm surprised youtube haven't deleted this yet.

 

Oh yeah, LANGUAGE WARNING.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:


Yes, persistent in the same way as coughs, colds and flu........because that is what it is!

 

 

So-called 'savants' and other 'researchers' so slimy that they twist and slip between your hands you can't get to catch them until they change their family names… same about their theories and 'science' made to get everything inaccessible… sorcerers and charlatans back from the Middle-age or never evolved beyond it... 

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I noticed over the weekend an Irish newspaper reporting that Van Morrison had spoke of "pseudo-science" and that "we need to be playing to full capacity audiences".   He called on fellow singers, musicians and others in the industry to "come forward, stand up, fight the pseudo-science and speak up".

 

This morning in the Guardian was a similar story that was open for comments.  Just checked and all the comments (many hundreds) had disappeared.  He's getting flack on his Facebook page too.  Apparently the only other person standing up for this is Sir Andrew Lloyd-Webber.

 

Go Van The Man!

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7 hours ago, Messenger said:

I know this is not Corona "virus" related, but if you know of any people who are just now waking up and they are receptive, have them watch this series. Here is Part 2 which shows George Carlin speaking, and he pretty much calls it like it is, and I think this was back in 1988-1995. But yet here we are decades later and a lot of people are still sleeping. I'm surprised youtube haven't deleted this yet.

 

Why would they delete George Carlin? He is pretty much what they want on their platform, surely? I used to like Carlin when I was leftist, but I find him to be very nihilistic and subversive these days. It seems like he is a poster boy for SJWs more than anything, and a bit of a degenerate too.

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@EnigmaticWorld i dunno man they seem to be going after some of the old liberals. Theres no way a lot of the far left sjw types would be happy with some of the stuff he said.

 

 Some of his stuff was okay, a bit too abrasive for me. Although i am starting prefer the aggressive approach.  It would be good to see what he would say about covid. I'm betting he would be against it. 

 

Along with christopher hitchens, roger scrutin, i could go on and on but there are ao many dead people we are missing in this whole mess. George Carlin is probably up there now pissing himself laughing in his front row seat 🙂

 

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3 minutes ago, Fluke said:

@EnigmaticWorld i dunno man they seem to be going after some of the old liberals. Theres no way a lot of the far left sjw types would be happy with some of the stuff he said.

 

 Some of his stuff was okay, a bit too abrasive for me. Although i am starting prefer the aggressive approach.  It would be good to see what he would say about covid. I'm betting he would be against it. 

 

Along with christopher hitchens, roger scrutin, i could go on and on but there are ao many dead people we are missing in this whole mess. George Carlin is probably up there now pissing himself laughing in his front row seat 🙂

 

 

Well he was against political correctness, that's for sure, but some of his opinions remind me of Marx big time. I don't want to derail this thread, but maybe I will do a write up on the guy sometime. I understand many here like him so I don't want to piss people off.

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In short, here are my views on him.

 

> Be George Carlin
> Love CNN
> Constantly mock conservatives
> Take the piss out of those that are pro-life
> Pro-gun control
> Godless
> Muh drugs
> Makes redditors feel smart for confirming observations that every normal human being already knew
> Hated nationalism
> Rapey
> Often trends on twitter because normies interpret his rants as Anti-Trump

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Again COVID-19 ultimately boils down to an economical cleansing and did nothing but to enrich the rich and impoverish the poor… Whether it's made to hand a reset and sanitized Western economy to the Asian Bank doesn't change the result : workers got fired by the thousands, concurrence got reduced by the bankrupt of small to average businesses and financial aids from states got cashed in as a bonus through more embezzlement of public money… Big Business steps out bigger than ever from the 'coronavirus crisis'…

 

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A massive social and economic catastrophe is unfolding in the United States. More than 170,000 people—predominantly workers and the elderly—are dead from the COVID-19 pandemic. Thirty million have lost their jobs. One fifth of mothers with young children say their families do not have enough to eat. In July, half of Americans said they felt depressed or hopeless.

 

Still not heard about any rich thug or celeb who 'died from the virus' ?

 

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And this was all before Congress allowed federal unemployment benefits to expire, slashing the incomes of the tens of millions of unemployed people by two thirds overnight and throwing them, and their children and dependents, into poverty.

 

The world looks very different when viewed from the standpoint of the ruling class. For the super-rich, “things are better than normal,” observes one insider account in Vanity Fair. They are “mostly living life as they did before coronavirus,” with one exception: they are far wealthier.

 

With the NASDAQ up by 20 percent over the past year, the wealth of America’s top ten billionaires has surged by a combined 22 percent.[…]

 

For the millions of front line workers in America, preventive testing is out of the question under conditions where tests take more than a week to return, making them effectively useless. Indeed, despite the surging pandemic, daily testing has declined by more than 20 percent in the US, with one leading diagnostics company admitting in internal documents that tests are taking more than 10 days to return.

 

This problem does not exist for the super-rich. Vanity Fair recounts that one “billionaire in Los Angeles has been hosting lavish dinner parties (no social media allowed) where an on-site nurse administers 15-minute coronavirus tests outside as guests drink cocktails, and allows them in to dine once their test comes back negative.”

 

The New York Times interviewed a doctor at a concierge medical service in the Hamptons, who provides instant on-demand testing, who said, “We’ve gone to these private, private, private events, where they have me sign a ‘nothing you see in this house can be leaked’ document.”

 

Crowded planes are not a problem for the oligarchs as they fly private and chartered jets between their multiple homes (the average ultra-high-net-worth individual owns nine homes abroad). NetJets, the private jet chartering service, reports that requests were up by 195 percent over the previous year.[…]

 

For months, the Trump administration deliberately sabotaged any effort to contain the pandemic through testing, fearing this would trigger a panic on the stock market. When it became clear that the pandemic was raging throughout the country, the US ruling class’s response was to carry out a massive bailout of major corporations and banks, to the tune of some $6 trillion.|…]

 

For the ruling class, the death of tens of thousands of people is a non-issue, so long as its own wealth and profits are secured. The oligarchy has all the tests it needs, and it is wealthier than ever. Mass unemployment for workers means lower wages, lower labor costs and higher profits.

 

With their bailout secured and the stock markets surging, the only concern of the American oligarchy is that workers get back in the factories, and that workers’ children be herded back to the schools so that their parents can report for their shifts.

 

 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/08/18/pers-a18.html

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10 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

Its OK for millionaire footballers to mingle and hug - But for us plebs its ILLEGAL 

 

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But primary school kids who are not in the 'Rona' demographic have to "air-high-five" at a distance? Insane.

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This is interesting, I have been keeping an eye out for a development along these lines and here it is!

 

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/08/24/survey-finds-most-britons-reject-covid-19-vaccine-nationalism/?guccounter=1

 

'Conducted in mid-August by polling firm Savanta ComRes for anti-poverty organisation The ONE Campaign, the survey found significant public support for Covid-19 vaccines being made available to all countries at the same time, regardless of how rich or powerful they are.'

 

So we will all wait for the vaccine until it is available to the whole world, isn't that nice and noble......

 

It also mirrors the script to Utopia, which is about the release of a fake virus (first wave) followed by a real virus (second wave) to make sure everyone takes the vaccine they have developed. They have Dara O'brien mainkg a TV appeal for 'V' day, which is a campaign along the lines of the One campaign above. I couldn't find the clip, but here is the episode, start watching at about 11:40 to see the Dara clip being shown by the 'Network'.

 

 

Also, here is a deleted scene where Jeff has to try and convince the head of 'Big Pharma' in the US to support 'V Day' - I can see this sort of thing happening right now.

 

 

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