Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[zarkov]

2 hours ago, BridgeBuilder said:

 

Interesting. So does the dog get infected then?

 

That in my opinion is a very interesting question.

 

What are viruses 

From where did they emerge 

If they are opportunistic in nature why would there be some that are species specific apparently!

How can a pathogenic particle differentiate if they lack intelligence?

How does a dead protein hijack a cell? 

How does it even enter a cell

 

How can it enter the body when our bodies are sealed units - aaaaand sealed for a reason!

With no nucleus and no mode of operation how does it evolve?

Why would it even emerge

 

In consideration of germ theory it can be seen that all life on this planet is a supportive system in terms of energy transition > then viruses do not fit and are a misnomer of gargantuan proportion.

 

Virus - A man made fiction to foist on an ignorant and nescient populace in the event it can be used to exert control.

They understand opportunity

 

Educate and remove the opportunity!

 

[Pina Colada]

45 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

My American cousins' dad is a lifetime Marine based out of San Diego and he took it....no matter how much info she sent him or nearly cried to persuade him...because  "he's in his late 60s and was worried about his diabetes." [covid]

 

The brainwashing/demoralising/propaganda has been THAT well done.

 

 

The couple in this video won't be so happy when all their blood platelets clump together and they are forced to attend A and E presenting with some form of life-threatening embolism.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Pina Colada

[White_Raven]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

 

zArk this is fake news this issue above is not related to vaccine and it happened after this guy overdose Colloidal Silver.

Edited April 12, 2021 by White_Raven

[SimonTV]

Infertility? 

[screamingeagle]

3 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

t makes you wonder if Test and Trace has been deliberately set up to fail and waste public money whilst the nation spirals into bankruptcy and oblivion.

so the goverment doesn't know the laws....or am i missing something

 

oh wait.....!!!

[Mikheil]

45 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

There's lots of vitamins, minerals and herbs that can boot your immune system, here's just a few 

 

Vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E,  Echincea, Garlic, Ginger, Iron, Selenium,  Zinc.

 

That professor is talking out of his arse.  

Remember some while ago, some fucking clown calling himself a doctor or scientist proclaimed that eating PROTEIN was worse than SMOKING!

[Pina Colada]

8 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Infertility? 

Interesting.

What this doctor is describing sounds more like this:

 

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/health/a40525/period-decidual-cast/

 

??? This is where your entire uterus lining comes away in one go. It is not common, but not unheard of, so if you are pregnant, obviously it means a dramatic and traumatic miscarriage. 

 

My friend had the above and has suffered blood clots everywhere, on her lungs to the extent she could hardly breathe. 

 

I wonder what, if anything,  the connection is with the covid jab and hormones????

 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

1 hour ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

There's lots of vitamins, minerals and herbs that can boot your immune system, here's just a few 

 

Vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E,  Echincea, Garlic, Ginger, Iron, Selenium,  Zinc.

 

That professor is talking out of his arse.  

 

If you want to strengthen your immune system, nothing is better than Kefir milk.

I drink a glass every  other day.

Research it.

[Pina Colada]

56 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Was thinking with G7 finishing on 13th June. How many days after before lockdown rules tighten again?

Probably in time for the Summer Solstice, they love their satanic ritual days.

[Pina Colada]

2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

Is that stuck to his face? do they come with sticky strips? If not how is it staying there? 

Lol, yes, it will be stuck to his face!!!

[Pina Colada]

2 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Could mRNA Vaccines Permanently Alter DNA? Recent Science Suggests They Might.

 

Research on SARS-CoV-2 RNA by scientists at Harvard and MIT has implications for how mRNA vaccines could permanently alter genomic DNA, according to Doug Corrigan, Ph.D., a biochemist-molecular biologist who says more research is needed.

 

Over the past year, it would be all but impossible for Americans not to notice the media’s decision to make vaccines the dominant COVID narrative, rushing to do so even before any coronavirus-attributed deaths occurred.

 

The media’s slanted coverage has provided a particularly fruitful public relations boost for messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines — decades in the making but never approved for human use — helping to usher the experimental technology closer to the regulatory finish line.

 

Under ordinary circumstances, the body makes (“transcribes”) mRNA from the DNA in a cell’s nucleus. The mRNA then travels out of the nucleus into the cytoplasm, where it provides instructions about which proteins to make.

 

By comparison, mRNA vaccines send their chemically synthesized mRNA payload (bundled with spike protein-manufacturing instructions) directly into the cytoplasm.

 

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and most mRNA vaccine scientists, the buck then stops there — mRNA vaccines “do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way,” the CDC says. The CDC asserts first, that the mRNA cannot enter the cell’s nucleus (where DNA resides), and second, that the cell — Mission-Impossible-style — “gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions.”

 

A December preprint about SARS-CoV-2, by scientists at Harvard and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), produced findings about wild coronavirus that raise questions about how viral RNA operates.

The scientists conducted the analysis because they were “puzzled by the fact that there is a respectable number of people who are testing positive for COVID-19 by PCR long after the infection was gone.”

 

Their key findings were as follows: SARS-CoV-2 RNAs “can be reverse transcribed in human cells,” “these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed” (a phenomenon called “retro-integration”) — and there are viable cellular pathways to explain how this happens.

 

According to Ph.D. biochemist and molecular biologist Dr. Doug Corrigan, these important findings (which run contrary to “current biological dogma”) belong to the category of “Things We Were Absolutely and Unequivocally Certain Couldn’t Happen Which Actually Happened.”

 

The findings of the Harvard and MIT researchers also put the CDC’s assumptions about mRNA vaccines on shakier ground, according to Corrigan. In fact, a month before the Harvard-MIT preprint appeared, Corrigan had already written a blog outlining possible mechanisms and pathways whereby mRNA vaccines could produce the identical phenomenon.

 

In a second blog post, written after the preprint came out, Corrigan emphasized that the Harvard-MIT findings about coronavirus RNA have major implications for mRNA vaccines — a fact he describes as “the big elephant in the room.” While not claiming that vaccine RNA will necessarily behave in the same way as coronavirus RNA — that is, permanently altering genomic DNA — Corrigan believes that the possibility exists and deserves close scrutiny.

 

In Corrigan’s view, the preprint’s contribution is that it “validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable.”

 

Reverse transcription

As the phrase “reverse transcription” implies, the DNA-to-mRNA pathway is not always a one-way street. Enzymes called reverse transcriptases can also convert RNA into DNA, allowing the latter to be integrated into the DNA in the cell nucleus.

 

Nor is reverse transcription uncommon. Geneticists report that “Over 40% of mammalian genomes comprise the products of reverse transcription.”

 

The preliminary evidence cited by the Harvard-MIT researchers indicates that endogenous reverse transcriptase enzymes may facilitate reverse transcription of coronavirus RNAs and trigger their integration into the human genome.

 

The authors suggest that while the clinical consequences require further study, detrimental effects are a distinct possibility and — depending on the integrated viral fragments’ “insertion sites in the human genome” and an individual’s underlying health status — could include “a more severe immune response … such as a ‘cytokine storm’ or auto-immune reactions.”

 

In 2012, a study suggested that viral genome integration could “lead to drastic consequences for the host cell, including gene disruption, insertional mutagenesis and cell death.”

 

Corrigan makes a point of saying that the pathways hypothesized to facilitate retro-integration of viral — or vaccine — RNA into DNA “are not unknown to people who understand molecular biology at a deeper level.”

 

Even so, the preprint’s discussion of reverse transcription and genome integration elicited a maelstrom of negative comments from readers unwilling to rethink biological dogma, some of whom even advocated for retraction (though preprints are, by definition, unpublished) on the grounds that “conspiracy theorists … will take this paper to ‘proof’ that mRNA vaccines can in fact alter your genetic code.”

 

More thoughtful readers agreed with Corrigan that the paper raises important questions. For example, one reader stated that confirmatory evidence is lacking “to show that the spike protein only is expressed for a short amount of time (say 1-3 days) after vaccination,” adding, “We think that this is the case, but there is no evidence for that.”

 

In fact, just how long the vaccines’ synthetic mRNA — and thus the instructions for cells to keep manufacturing spike protein — persist inside the cells is an open question.

 

Ordinarily, RNA is a “notoriously fragile” and unstable molecule. According to scientists, “this fragility is true of the mRNA of any living thing, whether it belongs to a plant, bacteria, virus or human.”

 

But the synthetic mRNA in the COVID vaccines is a different story. In fact, the step that ultimately allowed scientists and vaccine manufacturers to resolve their decades-long mRNA vaccine impasse was when they figured out how to chemically modify mRNA to increase its stability and longevity — in other words, produce RNA “that hangs around in the cell much longer than viral RNA, or even RNA that our cell normally produces for normal protein production.”

 

It is anyone’s guess what the synthetic mRNA is doing while it is “hanging around,” but Corrigan speculates that its enhanced longevity raises the probability of it “being converted over into DNA.”

 

Moreover, because the vaccine mRNA is also engineered to be more efficient at being translated into protein, “negative effects could be more frequent and more pronounced with the vaccine when compared to the natural virus.”

 

Dollar signs

Corrigan acknowledges that some people may dismiss his warnings, saying “If the virus is able to accomplish this, then why should I care if the vaccine does the same thing?”

 

He has a ready and compelling response:

“[T]here’s a big difference between the scenario where people randomly, and unwittingly, have their genetics monkeyed with because they were exposed to the coronavirus, and the scenario where we willfully vaccinate billions of people while telling them this isn’t happening.”

Unfortunately, the prevailing attitude seems to be that the “race to get the public vaccinated” justifies taking these extra risks.

 

In mid-November, after the Jerusalem Post told readers that “when the world begins inoculating itself with these completely new and revolutionary vaccines, it will know virtually nothing about their long-term effects,” an Israeli hospital director argued that it’s not worth waiting two more years to ferret out mRNA vaccines’ “unique and unknown risks” or potential long-term effects.

 

In the U.S., enthusiasm for mRNA technology is similarly unfettered. Just a few days after the CDC released updated data showing that more than 2,200 deaths of individuals who had received either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines had been reported as of Mar. 26 , The Atlantic praised the technology, suggesting that the “ingenious” synthetic mRNA technology behind Pfizer’s and Moderna’s COVID vaccines represented a “breakthrough” that could “change the world.”

Rather than dismiss the prospect of retro-integration of foreign DNA as a “conspiracy theory,” scientists should be conducting studies with the mRNA-vaccinated to assess actual risks.

 

For example, Corrigan believes that while in vitro data in human cell lines (one of the data sources examined by the Harvard-MIT researchers) offer “air tight” results, there is still a need to conclusively demonstrate real-life genomic alteration through “PCR, DNA sequencing or Southern Blot … on purified genomic DNA of COVID-19 patients” — and vaccinated individuals.

 

Yet instead of addressing these research gaps, companies are salivating over the potential to use human-edited mRNA to “commandeer our cellular machinery” and “make just about any protein under the sun.”

 

A March 10 press release pronouncing mRNA vaccines the clear winners of the COVID-19 vaccine race noted that all major pharmaceutical companies are now “testing out the [mRNA] technology by entering into license agreements and/or collaboration with well-established RNA companies.”

 

In old Disney cartoons, viewers often witnessed Donald Duck’s rich uncle, Scrooge McDuck’s, “bulging eyes [turn] into oversized Vegas slot machine dollar signs” when contemplating opportunities to increase his already immense wealth.

 

Judging by pharmaceutical company executives’ willingness to overlook mRNA vaccines’ long-term — and possibly multigenerational — risks, they must be similarly entranced by dollar-sign visions of a never-ending pipeline of “plug and play” mRNA products.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/science-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna/

And this...

 

https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/11/27/will-an-rna-vaccine-permanently-alter-my-dna/

[Liberty]

30 minutes ago, perpetual said:

Granted that it was a nice sunny day, I couldn't believe where all the people came from. It was like a Christmas.

Very strange feeling...as if nothing has happened and it carried on from the last time the shops were open... Mind you it is visibly obviously that so many shops have closed now.

 

Enjoy your freedom while it lasts. No doubt the government will announce the raise of R rate and next lockdown.

This is how it goes. We are let out on a 'day release' for a short period and will be locked up again during the summer.

 

It was nothing like a Christmas. I couldn’t help feeling if this is the way it’s going to be you can put a bonfire on it.  
Pubs with everyone sat obediently at their tables
 

Massive queues, cheap shit, cheap food.  Nah...  

[Saved]

1 hour ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

There's lots of vitamins, minerals and herbs that can boot your immune system, here's just a few 

 

Vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E,  Echincea, Garlic, Ginger, Iron, Selenium,  Zinc.

 

That professor is talking out of his arse.  

Speaking out of his wallet. They all are.

[FrankVitali]

Dr Naomi Wolf is very well respected. She knows the score.

[Mitochondrial Eve]

4 hours ago, SimonTV said:

Laboratories in US can’t find Covid-19 in one of 1,500 positive tests

 

https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/

 

1 hour ago, Pina Colada said:

A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.

 

Hang on, I bet the BBC will be reporting on this tonight.....

 

Sorry guys but I am going to have to call BS on this. This statement about 1,500 samples supposedly of Covid-19 instead testing positive for influenza A and influenza B has been doing the rounds since early December 2020 and, in my view, is fake.

 

The post first seems to have originated in the comments section of this thread on 6th December 2020 posted anonymously.

 

https://www.wadeburleson.org/2020/12/presidents-vaccines-mr-edwards-and.html

 

 

The post then went viral on Facebook at which point it started being attributed to a Professor Robert Oswald of Cornell University. On learning this, the real Professor Oswald issued a statement on his Cornell University profile page.

 

https://www.vet.cornell.edu/research/faculty/robert-oswald-phd

 

 

 

A couple of months back, a video then circulated on social media of somebody reading out the exact same statement which I repeatedly called out on Telegram at the time with nobody being able to give me the name of the actual clinical lab scientist who had allegedly authored the statement. It could have been literally anybody reading it out.

 

Now the statement is being attributed to a Dr Derek Knauss who is supposedly a clinical lab specialist, focusing on virology and immunology, based in Southern California. I would like to see some evidence that there is a genuine Dr Derek Knauss willing to take credit for this statement. All I have been able to find via search engines are dodgy looking websites crediting the statement to this so-called individual but nothing to substantiate this further.

 

Given that the post started as an anonymous comment and was then misattributed to Professor Robert Oswald, I find it hard to believe that this latest incarnation currently doing the rounds is any less fake than before. This is one case where I will have to agree with the fact checkers.

[Outsider]

41 minutes ago, Liberty said:

It was nothing like a Christmas. I couldn’t help feeling if this is the way it’s going to be you can put a bonfire on it.  
Pubs with everyone sat obediently at their tables
 

Massive queues, cheap shit, cheap food.  Nah...  

This is their new normal and unfortunately many of them are entirely happy with it. If the proles can spend their money on junk products and get pissed in a pub again then all is good with the world. Really quite a depressing day....and it once again shows how easily the masses are steered and controlled.

Today should have been a day when the collective said enough is enough....tore of the masks, knocked over the sanitiser stations and swamped those businesses with normal pre covid behaviour. It didn't happen so was just another example of blind obedience to the state.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Outsider
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[oddsnsods]

1 hour ago, White_Raven said:

zArk this is fake news this issue above is not related to vaccine and it happened after this guy overdose Colloidal Silver.

 

Zark is taking the piss. Papa Smurf was big pharma propaganda..

[zarkov]

4 hours ago, SimonTV said:

7 hours after AZ vaccine another "not related" incident

Old photo - recognise his face  (lower pic) from a decade back - search on curezone and you'll find the old photos as far as I remember.

The bloke in the picture was a bit of a Colloidal Silver fanatic and a search should also bring up US national news stories featuring him too.

[Outsider]

It's pretty obvious now that the vast majority of the population have covid locked into their mindset. It can't be shifted and I don't forsee some great awakening occuring. It's completely embedded into every aspect of society and every person I encounter. To try and extract it from their minds would be like telling them to stop wearing a seatbelt or stop brushing their teeth.... impossible.

[Liberty]

13 minutes ago, Outsider said:

This is their new normal and unfortunately many of them are entirely happy with it. If the proles can spend their money on junk products and get pissed in a pub again then all is good with the world. Really quite a depressing day....and it once again shows how easily the masses are steered and controlled.

Today should have been a day when the collective said enough is enough....tore of the masks, knocked over the sanitiser stations and swamped those businesses with normal pre covid behaviour. It didn't happen so was just another example of blind obedience to the state.

Couldn’t agree more but I’m still hopeful.

There were signs of it but the usual Orwell  speakers of keeping your distance etc were there. No one wants this. 

[zarkov]

4 hours ago, pete675 said:

I agree, apart from stating the government - the real one - is worse than fascist. Fascist (and communist) regimes didn't interfere with ordinary people having a little booze.

 

In the Fourth Reich of the rich, everyone is a target. Everyone, apart from the billionaires, is a Jew or a Kulak.

 

 

Dekulakization - many lost sadly. good vibrant people who also thought that governments and authority would do them no harm.

Why do people insist on learning the hard way ?

not complicated is it!

[Outsider]

4 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Couldn’t agree more but I’m still hopeful.

There were signs of it but the usual Orwell  speakers of keeping your distance etc were there. No one wants this. 

They moan and grumble about the restrictions, wearing masks but they still comply!

The masses are a docile inert lump with no apparent desire to be free of all this shite. 

[Liberty]

4 minutes ago, Outsider said:

They moan and grumble about the restrictions, wearing masks but they still comply!

The masses are a docile inert lump with no apparent desire to be free of all this shite. 

You’re right about the masks. Time for them to come off. People copy other peoples behaviour and the more who wear the more will copy.  The more who don’t they will copy that. 

[shadowmoon]

45 minutes ago, Outsider said:

This is their new normal and unfortunately many of them are entirely happy with it. If the proles can spend their money on junk products and get pissed in a pub again then all is good with the world. Really quite a depressing day....and it once again shows how easily the masses are steered and controlled.

Today should have been a day when the collective said enough is enough....tore of the masks, knocked over the sanitiser stations and swamped those businesses with normal pre covid behaviour. It didn't happen so was just another example of blind obedience to the state.

Took a walk today through the fields on the way home went past my local pub .

Observations: marquees with tapes separating them from the pavement & blocking half the pavement, people kind of hemmed in.

A man rolling a cigarette with his mask on, some noise but not overly loud.

Probably 30 seats in total and nearly all filled at about 5pm.

 

To me it looks so strange, my gut feeling is it is a novelty yet again & numbers will decline rapidly enough to close the pub eventually.

[SimonTV]

34 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Old photo - recognise his face  (lower pic) from a decade back - search on curezone and you'll find the old photos as far as I remember.

The bloke in the picture was a bit of a Colloidal Silver fanatic and a search should also bring up US national news stories featuring him too.

 

Reverse image search doesn't bring it up. Any source for that?