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34 minutes ago, Mr H said:

I think a lot of people enjoy wearing masks now. One to show what a good person they are and second some wear for fashion reasons.

 

Interesting that amongst all the talk of getting our freedoms back there is no mention of getting rid of the masks. As long as the masks continue, then covidia will be in the minds of people and they can pull shit off whenever they want. Need to get rid of em asap.

 

 

They are an intensive form of propaganda that no one can ignore. It's relatively easy to avoid the TV news, papers, political briefings, but the masks are omnipresent. Unfortunately I think most mask wearers have psychologically and physically adapted to them by now. It's like wearing a new pair of shoes, painful and uncomfortable for a few days then you become accustomed to wearing them. The docile slaves have accepted their chains with barely a murmur of complaint.

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The press release re Covid vaccines from the British Society for Haematology (BSH) was :

 

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/covid-19-updates/

 

Media Statement on syndrome of Thrombosis and Thrombocytopenia occurring after coronavirus vaccination

BSH has informed the UK haematological community about this complication and is working with the Expert Haematology Panel to issue regular updated guidance as to how to best investigate and manage this condition.

The Expert Haematology Panel comprises of specialists in immunohaematology haemostasis and thrombosis (or blood clotting and immune causes of reduced platelets), who hold daily meetings to support clinicians managing these patients and learn from new cases. They are in regular communication with the regulators, other UK medical and surgical societies, multidisciplinary groups and international haematology colleagues focussed on this condition.

The Expert Haematology Panel has been instrumental in describing this condition and its management and continues to work closely with PHE and regulatory authorities. BSH is working with the EHP to make sure the haematology community is kept up to date with the latest information on this syndrome.  We have received many requests from media for information and interviews and we have done our best to advise and inform wherever possible. However, all our members have responsibilities as NHS clinicians which are their priority roles.  We will therefore be unable to respond to further media requests and if additional information is required please contact the MHRA.

 

 

So in other words, they are saying nothing publicly.

 

However, the documents they released to doctors are quite different:

 

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And they are still saying that it is safe to the public:

 

https://patient.info/news-and-features/astrazeneca-vaccine-is-it-safe-and-does-it-cause-blood-clots

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7 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

 

Stand by for the obligatory Snopes 'fact check' 😁 – An elderly gentleman tripped and fell outside a vaccine centre, hitting his head and causing his heart to stop; conspiracy theorists claiming his death was related to the vaccine are promoting dangerous information. Vaccines are proven safe and effective.

 

Update: The Government and NHS are leading an urgent effort to improve the safety of entry and exit points to Covid vaccination centres. Engineers have been hired to provide expert advice on improving stairs and railing. We must all work together to keep the community safe.

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3 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Stand by for the obligatory Snopes 'fact check' 😁 – An elderly gentleman tripped and fell outside a vaccine centre, hitting his head and causing his heart to stop; conspiracy theorists claiming his death was related to the vaccine are promoting dangerous information. Vaccines are proven safe and effective.

 

Update: The Government and NHS are leading an urgent effort to improve the safety of entry and exit points to Covid vaccination centres. Engineers have been hired to provide expert advice on improving stairs and railing. We must all work together to keep the community safe.

 

"He jumped out of the tree, and came at me with a chainsaw."

 

 

 

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Aye well it wouldn't be the first time, remember a while ago, a bloke fell off a ladder and they blamed that on Covid.  Something along the lines of, covid caused him to have breathing difficulties and fall from the ladder.

 

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A Family Court in Weimar has ruled that coronavirus measures imposed upon students in schools cannot be justified and are not scientifically reasonable or necessary. This is following an action brought by a mother concerned about the physical, psychological and pedagogical effect on her children of masks, tests and social distancing.

 

What is particularly good about this judgment is the sheer depth in which the science behind the measures was examined causing the mainstream thinking to be picked to shreds. I have summarised the findings below under the headline.

 

The original source is linked below along with the translation of it.

 

https://2020news.de/sensationsurteil-aus-weimar-keine-masken-kein-abstand-keine-tests-mehr-fuer-schueler/

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13tlF0vUYQBYba7_d-tam3cSt0dUDqlI1MeQvO0TbM_E/edit

 

Sensational verdict from Weimar: no masks, no distance, no more tests for students

 

1) Masks

  • All the available scientific evidence shows that masks have no effect on the incidence of infection. Politicians may only be interested in the symbolic value of the mask.
  • Masks are not only useless but are dangerous especially given that they are often touched with the hands and become a contamination risk. The population has not been taught how to use masks properly and it would be unrealistic to expect the population to achieve appropriate handling of the masks.
  • Transmission by aerosols is medically implausible and scientifically unproven, whilst the theory is harmful for human coexistence as people can no longer feel safe in indoor spaces.
  • Any potential small benefit from masks, should a new variant emerge, is countered by numerous potential side effects on the physical, psychological and emotional wellbeing of the children.

2) Social Distancing

  • Keeping a distance of 1.5 metres is only potentially of value where symptoms are present. Yet still this hasn't been scientifically proven.
  • Keeping a 1.5 metre distance amongst asymptomatic individuals is not supported by any science. However, this greatly impairs human coexistence - particularly more carefree contact among children - without any apparent benefit in reducing transmission.
  • Close contacts of less than 1.5 metres, even where an individual has cold symptoms, does not pose a risk as contact times are typically too short for transmission to occur.
  • Asymptomatic transmission is extremely rare and statistically meaningless.
  • There is no evidence that compliance with social distancing reduces the risk of infection.

3) PCR and Rapid Antigen Tests

  • Only genetic material can be identified by the PCR test and cannot confirm whether a person is infected with an active pathogen. The test cannot distinguish between "dead" matter (harmless genome fragments as a remnant of the body's immune system) and living matter in the form of a fresh virus capable of reproducing.
  • PCR parameters can be manipulated, including via the number of target genes to be tested along with the cycle threshold value used (with positive tests arising from 35+ cycles having no scientific basis). It is noted that the WHO's RT-PCR protocol initially recommended using up to 45 cycles without defining a cycle threshold value for positive.
  • Rapid antigen tests only detect protein components without any connection to an intact, reproducible virus.
  • There are high rates of false positive test results, particularly among asymptomatic individuals.
  • Neither PCR tests nor rapid antigen tests are suitable for making a diagnosis.

The judge therefore concluded in light of the lack of scientific evidence to support the measures, that the encroachment upon fundamental rights is unconstitutional and entirely disproportionate. The measures passed were deemed to have arisen from a "factual disconnect that has reached historic proportions". The court therefore ruled that, with immediate effect, schools are prohibited from imposing these measures any longer.

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1 minute ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

A Family Court in Weimar has ruled that coronavirus measures imposed upon students in schools cannot be justified and are not scientifically reasonable or necessary. This is following an action brought by a mother concerned about the physical, psychological and pedagogical effect on her children of masks, tests and social distancing.

 

What is particularly good about this judgment is the sheer depth in which the science behind the measures was examined causing the mainstream thinking to be picked to shreds. I have summarised the findings below under the headline.

 

The original source is linked below along with the translation of it.

 

https://2020news.de/sensationsurteil-aus-weimar-keine-masken-kein-abstand-keine-tests-mehr-fuer-schueler/

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13tlF0vUYQBYba7_d-tam3cSt0dUDqlI1MeQvO0TbM_E/edit

 

Sensational verdict from Weimar: no masks, no distance, no more tests for students

 

1) Masks

  • All the available scientific evidence shows that masks have no effect on the incidence of infection. Politicians may only be interested in the symbolic value of the mask.
  • Masks are not only useless but are dangerous especially given that they are often touched with the hands and become a contamination risk. The population has not been taught how to use masks properly and it would be unrealistic to expect the population to achieve appropriate handling of the masks.
  • Transmission by aerosols is medically implausible and scientifically unproven, whilst the theory is harmful for human coexistence as people can no longer feel safe in indoor spaces.
  • Any potential small benefit from masks, should a new variant emerge, is countered by numerous potential side effects on the physical, psychological and emotional wellbeing of the children.

2) Social Distancing

  • Keeping a distance of 1.5 metres is only potentially of value where symptoms are present. Yet still this hasn't been scientifically proven.
  • Keeping a 1.5 metre distance amongst asymptomatic individuals is not supported by any science. However, this greatly impairs human coexistence - particularly more carefree contact among children - without any apparent benefit in reducing transmission.
  • Close contacts of less than 1.5 metres, even where an individual has cold symptoms, does not pose a risk as contact times are typically too short for transmission to occur.
  • Asymptomatic transmission is extremely rare and statistically meaningless.
  • There is no evidence that compliance with social distancing reduces the risk of infection.

3) PCR and Rapid Antigen Tests

  • Only genetic material can be identified by the PCR test and cannot confirm whether a person is infected with an active pathogen. The test cannot distinguish between "dead" matter (harmless genome fragments as a remnant of the body's immune system) and living matter in the form of a fresh virus capable of reproducing.
  • PCR parameters can be manipulated, including via the number of target genes to be tested along with the cycle threshold value used (with positive tests arising from 35+ cycles having no scientific basis). It is noted that the WHO's RT-PCR protocol initially recommended using up to 45 cycles without defining a cycle threshold value for positive.
  • Rapid antigen tests only detect protein components without any connection to an intact, reproducible virus.
  • There are high rates of false positive test results, particularly among asymptomatic individuals.
  • Neither PCR tests nor rapid antigen tests are suitable for making a diagnosis.

The judge therefore concluded in light of the lack of scientific evidence to support the measures, that the encroachment upon fundamental rights is unconstitutional and entirely disproportionate. The measures passed were deemed to have arisen from a "factual disconnect that has reached historic proportions". The court therefore ruled that, with immediate effect, schools are prohibited from imposing these measures any longer.

 

This is some epic level shit. Great find!

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

I think a lot of people enjoy wearing masks now. One to show what a good person they are and second some wear for fashion reasons.

 

Interesting that amongst all the talk of getting our freedoms back there is no mention of getting rid of the masks. 

 

I assume some people are also just pig ugly.

 

I once picked this up in a nightclub whilst at Uni, shouldn't have had my beer goggles on:

 

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30 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

A Family Court in Weimar has ruled that coronavirus measures imposed upon students in schools cannot be justified and are not scientifically reasonable or necessary. This is following an action brought by a mother concerned about the physical, psychological and pedagogical effect on her children of masks, tests and social distancing.

 

What is particularly good about this judgment is the sheer depth in which the science behind the measures was examined causing the mainstream thinking to be picked to shreds. I have summarised the findings below under the headline.

 

The original source is linked below along with the translation of it.

 

https://2020news.de/sensationsurteil-aus-weimar-keine-masken-kein-abstand-keine-tests-mehr-fuer-schueler/

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13tlF0vUYQBYba7_d-tam3cSt0dUDqlI1MeQvO0TbM_E/edit

 

Sensational verdict from Weimar: no masks, no distance, no more tests for students

 

We occasionally have these isolated court rulings - I think there was a Portuguese one early on regarding the PCR nonsense - but they turn into false dawns. There's clearly some dodgy process at work preventing a ripple effect across regions and then countries.

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35 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

 

I assume some people are also just pig ugly.

 

I once picked this up in a nightclub whilst at Uni, shouldn't have had my beer goggles on:

 

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If you visit my down the darling above will look like Miss World

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1 minute ago, Shy Talk said:

 

We occasionally have these isolated court rulings - I think there was a Portuguese one early on regarding the PCR nonsense - but they turn into false dawns. There's clearly some dodgy process at work preventing a ripple effect across regions and then countries.

 

It's a shame they're all in countries that require translations. Snopes will just claim the transaltion as fake news. lol

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16 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

It's a shame they're all in countries that require translations. Snopes will just claim the transaltion as fake news. lol

It wouldn't matter if God himself came down and told everyone that the whole scamdemic is complete and utter bullshit. The fucking stupid Karen cunts, and these chinless, knuckle dragging assholes that dare to call themselves men, would scream at him and demand that he wear a fucking mask and that he is just another conspiracy nut.

 

They LOVE this shit. They are getting what they demand. The Government is making laws to tell them how to live. They want MORE laws, more tougher controls, more fines and jail time for non-believers. Just fucking MORONS, disguised as humans.

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1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

 

I assume some people are also just pig ugly.

 

I once picked this up in a nightclub whilst at Uni, shouldn't have had my beer goggles on:

 

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Looks like Madeline Albright

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The next time challenges me, it will be along the lines of the following....

 

"Where's your mask?"

"I don't wear them, I suffer with CFS"

 

Puzzled look on the yellow vested idiot

 

If you want to know what that is it's

COMMON FUCKING SENSE

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So today in this lovely Ontario lockdown...haha.. I went to a party :-).  Talked to a paramedic who told me that he is noticing that they are being called out to care homes for elderly people who have DNR orders. This means that as a paramedic he is not supposed to try to resuscitate. They then have to take this patient to hospital where they die. Once they are dead they are registered as a ` covid `death. Basically, he says that paramedics are not supposed to be called for DNR patients - but that they are being called and bringing them to the hospital where the hospital makes money from the death. Especially a `covid`death as we know.

 

He also says he has seen NO symptomatic covid patients himself and that there is no more work for them as paramedics in past year , in fact he says it is less than usual. Says hospitals locally are far from full.

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