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I have now been called to the final vaccination deadline as a health care professional. I informed my employer that these vaccines are not technically vaccines, but are "gene therapies" as they employ

You wont believe this.   I just went down Lidls to get some steak.   Security guard calls me out as I walk past & I ignore him. Gets my steak walks to the credit only till

EXPLAIN PLEASE........   People expect so many answers without giving anything back in return.   If the "tin foil hatters" are so nuts, how about the rule followers give some answe

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When discussions arise concerning the factors that contribute to weakening or making less effective the immune we speak of microwaves, diet, sunshine but the idea of having exposure to germs is rarely talked about as an important immunity muscle to flex. To this effect we must add the decades old culture of cleanliness zealots as a factor in the reduction of immunity making seasonal flu "appear" more severe when in fact the case was a lowered immune capacity. Many spend their days in velvet corridors sanitized from top to bottom. How hard does a seasonal flu hit these persons?

 

These people shielding from the world and living in a chemical soup are weakening their immune system for sure. Add in the vaccines further weakening their immune system and we have a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw lots of people come down with bacterial infections next winter which they will no doubt blame on covid. 

 

Covid is the new catch all, ever symptom known to man is covid apparently. 

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These are the first to go over the cliff with covid insular measures. One fairly stiff seasonal flu and its curtains for these types. They will die so intensly that covid will get a big boost of credibility. When all along its a case of destroyed immune systems not superbugs.

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Alex Belfield, seems a down to earth bloke who speaks his truth (as long as he keeps his truth in line with what YouTube & Google say is the truth.)

 

I do find myself however a little wary of Mr Belfield. He seems to be dismissing Covid passports, aps etc day in day out......which by the way is great to see.......as long as he means it!

 

Remember Peter Hitchens and how he operated concerning the vaccine.......day after day voicing concerns over it it then..........got it? He was obviously a plant, leading people on with his pretence, then goes in with the psychological games.

 

We see these tactics used day in day out where Covid is concerned. Lets hope Alex does not turn out to be one of them!

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On 4/7/2021 at 12:11 AM, Anders said:

The virus needs to be both isolated and PURIFIED to be able to create a vaccine for it. 

Have been lurking as I am a noob here but I have to say you are right. And there is no evidence for any covid virus ever being isolated. Many professionals have asked for it but never got an answer. The whole jab is based on what they think the relevant virus sequence looks like. It is literally designed on the computer. There needn't be any actual virus parts in this gene therapy like in the old fashioned vaccines, because all they need is the strands of mRNA that they believe/guess/make up and bob is your uncle. I also don't believe that there is a novel virus with a separate name, it's just a bad bout of a known corona strain in my opinion. Presented as a new and dangerous one. 

What worries me most is that because it isn't actually dangerous at all as it doesn't affect any young people and not even many of the old ones, just those with underlying illnesses. It looks like a safe trial run.

I am in no doubt we will be let free at some point just to face an actual much worse scenario.

What will happen then is that those vaccinated will die from it [like all the lab animals in the trials] and the rest of us will be in actual danger of an actually bad virus and we can be blamed for it and persecuted.

I am so glad I am older and had my good times. 

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39 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

These people shielding from the world and living in a chemical soup are weakening their immune system for sure. Add in the vaccines further weakening their immune system and we have a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw lots of people come down with bacterial infections next winter which they will no doubt blame on covid. 

 

Covid is the new catch all, ever symptom known to man is covid apparently. 

Based on the smirk on Bill's face talking about the next wave I estimate its going to be quite the show. Primal fear type panic and confusion. I think it will be the main act in the covid theatre of horror. You might think the sheep were hostile to our dissenting opinions the first year watch how downright vicious and violent they will become as the body counts rise for real.

 

Find a deep hole 😄 

 

Cities will breakup into factions and the countrysides will form interim governments and all manner of neat stuff. It will be many things but I promise it wont be boring.

 

In all that chaos there will be a lot of creativity too.

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Every year at about this time the mosquitos return with a vengeance. Swarms of them everywhere (watershed woodland) and every year I would swear at them and find them a real nuissance until I started understanding the relationship of these insects to the human and animal immune systems. After the first bites I feel like I am catching a cold then it goes away. So, as crazy as it sounds I am no longer feeling the same way about them. I still protect myself with screens and canopies but feel differently about the hits they get in.

 

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32 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said:

Remember Peter Hitchens and how he operated concerning the vaccine.......day after day voicing concerns over it it then..........got it? He was obviously a plant, leading people on with his pretence, then goes in with the psychological games.

 

 

He has a fine intellect and in all respects is essentially a reasonable person but being such a person labours under the mild delusion he is arguing against likewise people when a more precise analysis of the UK governments behaviour indicates a Stalinesque willingness to completely scorch earth  society to root out a mild virus.

 

This inhumane disregard coupled readily with a vindictive campaign of fear waged from the get go labels them as inhuman.

 

You might as well call them reptiles.

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2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

If it looks like 'mass hysteria' then maybe it is mass hysteria ... look at the symptom list of 'mass hysteria' with this covid guff 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness#Common_symptoms

 

Common symptoms[edit]

Timothy F. Jones of the Tennessee Department of Health compiles the following symptoms based on their commonality in outbreaks occurring in 1980–1990:[8]

Symptom Percent reporting
Headache 67
Dizziness or light-headedness 46
Nausea 41
Abdominal cramps or pain 39
Cough 31
Fatigue, drowsiness or weakness 31
Sore or burning throat 30
Hyperventilation or difficulty breathing 19
Watery or irritated eyes 13
Chest tightness/chest pain 12
Inability to concentrate/trouble thinking 11
Vomiting 10
Tingling, numbness or paralysis 10
Anxiety or nervousness 8
Diarrhea 7
Trouble with vision 7
Rash 4
Loss of consciousness/syncope 4
Itching 3

 

Hmm...sounds a bit familiar?

 

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I know a beekeeper that uses the stings to relieve his arthritis pain. The reccurring theme I see with insect bites without pathogens is that the immune system is stimulated for lack of a better word. Are we to assume that, at least in this respect, departure from nature has also diminished our immune capabilities?

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The bit about the 20% who are easily hypnotised, just really sums it up...you see them all over social media (the MSM etc) and they a basically take up more bandwidth than the other 80%. Its all a load of balls

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1 hour ago, SimonTV said:

These people shielding from the world and living in a chemical soup are weakening their immune system for sure. Add in the vaccines further weakening their immune system and we have a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw lots of people come down with bacterial infections next winter which they will no doubt blame on covid. 

 

I don't think so, 2020 in the UK was one of the lowest mortality years on record I believe it's #13 out 180 years on record ... so a great success with very low death rate even with "SarsCov2".

 

We sure are living in a chemical soup and whatever but ... well if death is low then death is low.

 

And for sure injecting drugs is going to completely destroy your immune system ... one of the dirty tricks the vaccine psychopaths are doing is they only test their drugs against the target  virus ... and it may be 100% effective in the short term against that virus ... but what is the effect on your overall long term health.  Well they never do those studies and for good reasons, they don't want to know the answer.  Same reason Japan doesn't test for Fukushima fallout properly, they know what the answer will be.
With "vaccines" only a few studies have been done by Government agencies around the world ... and those few studies are not good, they show that if you have a "vaccine" for one thing they you are more likely to get infected with another thing because your immunity is damaged.
And also it causes MRSA of Coronaviruses, i.e. it accelerates dangerous mutations.

I really wonder what my last thought will be when I die, gratitude probably, but anyway I will do as much spiritual progress between now and then.

 

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On 3/19/2021 at 6:15 AM, skitzorat said:

I was thinking this too.. classic type of bait n switch...   AZ is bad, see we are being honest and telling you (offering something desirable to gain favour)....then... gotcha with the mRNA ones!  (thwarted with the less desirable)

 

oh and BTW all you people who lined up and got AZ, you have to have mRNA ones in 6 months and a double dose to make up for it, cos AZ has been completely withdrawn, it's fine, we are just doing this out of an abundance of caution because we really care, you see.......and we can then study the mixing of the cocktails..

 

@DarianF  BINGO!

 

 

APRIL 9, 20214:57 PMUPDATED 6 HOURS AGO

France to recommend mRNA COVID-19 shots as second dose for some after AstraZeneca - minister

PARIS (Reuters) - France’s top health body should say on Friday that recipients of a first dose of AstraZeneca’s traditional COVID-19 vaccine who are under 55 should get a second shot with a new-style messenger-RNA vaccine, Health Minister Olivier Veran said.

“This should normally be confirmed today”, Veran told RTL radio, adding he did not want to announce the move ahead of a news conference by the body - the Haute Autorite de la Sante (HAS) - later in the day.

 

Veran said this was a precautionary measure that could evolve in time, pending the gathering of further data on the AstraZeneca shot. France would continue to encourage the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine, he added.

Two sources told Reuters on Thursday about the HAS’s upcoming announcement. Two mRNA vaccines, one from Pfizer and BioNTech and another from Moderna, are approved for use in France.

 

Messenger RNA vaccines prompt the human body to make a protein that mimics part of the virus, triggering an immune response, while traditional vaccines such as AstraZeneca’s use an inactivated virus to carry a protein from the pathogen - in this case the novel coronavirus - to do the same thing.

Confidence in the AstraZeneca vaccine has dropped in Europe since a very few, mostly young, recipients of the shot were found to have suffered extremely unusual blood clots.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-france-vaccines/france-to-recommend-mrna-covid-19-shots-as-second-dose-for-some-after-astrazeneca-minister-idUKKBN2BW0PK

 

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Perfect timing eh with him dead

 

now the AstraZeneca troubles will be forgotten for the next week while we get wall To wall News of this guy dying

 

convenient 

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18 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

He knows the score. "White knuckle stuff coming"...ouch!

 

I believe him.

Same. 

 

The masses are complicit but the greater judgement shall be on the church - she will be devastated by God's hand not knowing her own naked, wretched condition.

 

Being a Christian, I look forward to that part.

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