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13 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

It certainly did 👨🏾‍🦱:classic_biggrin:

His father, Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau locked down Quebec during the FLQ terrorist threat of the70s. Like father like son, eh? 

 

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1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Not everyone is having your experiences. I have been in stores without one and was politely asked but they did not insist. You want people terrified of a killer monster germ to just take off their masks. You treat this matter as if everything hinges on the maak wearing when in fact it is an element of a complex assault on humanity. A person reads the pamphlet and decides himself to remive it after understanding. You want to rip it off their faces in direct confrontations. Your level of milutancy in this regard makes me wonder how you failed to find what you need in stores that sympathise with you. I have. I dont need public confrontations. Especially not in the midst of panixked terrified sheep. Thats just asking for a ride in a police car.

You do so love your assumptions dont you?!

 

I dont recall rampaging through any shop, or anywhere for that matter, 'ripping' off peoples face masks in an orgey of millitancy as you would have it!

 

A lady customer came up to me after and we had a good discussion about it all after she expressed how "horrified" she was by someone being treated this way and it had really opened her eyes. She certainly went away a lot more thoughtful having been previously unaware that this was happening to people. I also had a really good chat with the store colleague who witnessed it who also went away more thoughtful and having confided in me what many staff really think and how good it was to see a customer without a mask, actually see a customers face.

 

You are treating me like I stood in the shop and just went in to one for no reason, shouting and swearing. I gave the guy goo, polite warning to leave me alone and when he wouldnt, yes, I lost my temper and told him to f off. After over a year of all this rubbish, like most, I'd had enough. Hardly the crime of the century is it?! Contrary to your claims, others here have had the same experience as me so nice try at the attempt to isolate and 'other' me but a fail Im afraid.

 

You can slag me off all you like, I couldn't care less, but if the truth is you wear a mask because you are too afraid of confrontation and are so unwilling to experience confrontation in defence of basic human rights then why not say so and just be honest? If you are happy to make post after post on here, including attacking others for actually standing up for their rights, but don't walk your own talk in 'real life' then you are a hypocrite with your totally ignorant assumptions.

 

P.S I didnt get a ride in a police car - I must complain about that........!

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3 minutes ago, Bee said:

You do so love your assumptions dont you?!

 

I dont recall rampaging through any shop, or anywhere for that matter, 'ripping' off peoples face masks in an orgey of millitancy as you would have it!

 

A lady customer came up to me after and we had a good discussion about it all after she expressed how "horrified" she was by someone being treated this way and it had really opened her eyes. She certainly went away a lot more thoughtful having been previously unaware that this was happening to people. I also had a really good chat with the store colleague who witnessed it who also went away more thoughtful and having confided in me what many staff really think and how good it was to see a customer without a mask, actually see a customers face.

 

You are treating me like I stood in the shop and just went in to one for no reason, shouting and swearing. I gave the guy goo, polite warning to leave me alone and when he wouldnt, yes, I lost my temper and told him to f off. After over a year of all this rubbish, like most, I'd had enough. Hardly the crime of the century is it?! Contrary to your claims, others here have had the same experience as me so nice try at the attempt to isolate and 'other' me but a fail Im afraid.

 

You can slag me off all you like, I couldn't care less, but if the truth is you wear a mask because you are too afraid of confrontation and are so unwilling to experience confrontation in defence of basic human rights then why not say so and just be honest? If you are happy to make post after post on here, including attacking others for actually standing up for their rights, but don't walk your own talk in 'real life' then you are a hypocrite with your totally ignorant assumptions.

 

P.S I didnt get a ride in a police car - I must complain about that........!

Did you read the rules when you signed up? No personal insults. I am no hypocrite and not ignorant.

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Bolshevic control freaks. Amazing those police that can interrogate a suspect for hours on every detail can't see further that the surface narrative in covid. Police are a big reason people are complying. Those armed persons paid to enforce law assisting genocide while standing down their investigative units.

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18 minutes ago, Bee said:

Pub staff will check drinkers' phones to prove they have registered with Test and Trace:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/04/08/exclusive-pub-staff-will-check-drinkers-phones-prove-have-registered/

 

Here's what's behind the paywall...

 

"Drinkers must hand their phones to pub staff to prove they have registered on the NHS Test and Trace app when beer gardens open on Monday under a tightening of rules to track Covid in hospitality venues.

 

The latest guidance says pub staff must look at customers' mobile phone screens to make sure that they have registered with Test and Trace before they can be served.

 

Drinkers will still have the option of registering manually by filling out a form with their name and telephone number.

 

The guidance, issued ahead of the outdoor reopening, says that "should someone choose to check in with the official NHS QR code poster, a venue should check their phone screen to ensure they have successfully checked in".

 

Under the rules from Monday, all customers will have to register with Test and Trace rather than just one person per group.

 

Pub bosses have raised concerns that the rules will place an additional burden on staff as hospitality venues try to recover from the pandemic lockdowns. They are also concerned that staff who demand proof customers have registered could face abuse.

 

Kate Nicholls, the chief executive of UK Hospitality, said: "This is putting high onus on individual staff working in premises to check people's phones, and we are continuing to work with the Government to try and get a more pragmatic, proportionate and reasonable solution.

 

"We're concerned to ensure that we minimise chances of harassment or abuse of staff."


A government memo to the tourism industry, seen by The Telegraph, says that "in the rare case that a customer or visitor becomes unruly, you should follow your own security procedures".

 

Officials from the Department of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) are understood to be raising the issue with the Cabinet Office and Department of Health, which is responsible for the Test and Trace guidance.

 

Pubs may refuse entry if staff believe a customer has provided incorrect details, and venues that serve customers who have not registered could be hit with a £1,000 fine.

 

Campaigners said on Thursday that the rules risked conflicting with data protection legislation.

 

Madeleine Stone, the legal and policy officer at Big Brother Watch, told The Telegraph: "Requiring every single person who enters a cafe or pub to show their phone screen and hand over their personal details poses a serious risk to privacy and data rights and is based on exclusion, criminal sanctions and police enforcement.

 

"Businesses won't be able to comply with this draconian new diktat as well as data protection law, which is why we've sent legal letters to the Department of Health and Information Commissioner's Office as to whether these intrusive requirements are safe and lawful."

 

A government spokesman said: "The NHS Covid-19 App is an important tool in our pandemic response and has prevented an estimated 600,000 Covid cases since launch. We encourage the public to download and use the app to help detect cases and prevent transmission.

 

"There is no requirement for venues to ensure people have downloaded the app. Whilst the app is the simplest way to check in, people should be able to provide their contact details to the venue if they prefer that option. The app has been designed with user privacy in mind, so it tracks the virus not people and uses the latest in data security technology to protect privacy.""

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

It seems to me that Canada is getting worse, especially after the Grace life church incident, I reckon Justin Trudeau needs stringing up.

There is something very wrong with Trudeau. He tries to come across as a reasonable god fearing man, but a my hackles rise even at his appearance. Deeply deceitful human IMO 

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

in civil law countries yes it does

but in common law countries it is very difficult to transpose a state institutional requirement onto a private setting

Recently IMO, common law has been shredded and torn up. I don’t think any common law rights, relating to the issues we have on this forum, will ever be respected or enforced again. 

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48 minutes ago, Bee said:

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I don’t doubt that there are people out there who have long term health issues after certain illnesses. Don’t know anyone personally, so I can’t vouch to the effect, who has had flu disguised as covid.

when you look at the enormous list of “long covid” symptoms, I think it becomes clear that all long term conditions are under attack. Fibromyalgia, nervous system conditions etc.

in U.K. we have a system of payments, benefits, for people who have long term debilitating illnesses and issues. By normalising pain and suffering, they have created the conditions to remove illnesses and symptoms from the criteria needed to receive benefits.

If enough people have a condition or problem then it becomes “normal.”

The savings to the system would be enormous.

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11 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Recently IMO, common law has been shredded and torn up. I don’t think any common law rights, relating to the issues we have on this forum, will ever be respected or enforced again. 

 

... Unless we as a people turn that around. If we roll over and let these statute enforcing criminals get their way then we deserve all we get.

 

It's up to us as individuals, and collectively, to make a stand against this shit.

 

RESIST!!!

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53 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Not everyone is having your experiences. I have been in stores without one and was politely asked but they did not insist. You want people terrified of a killer monster germ to just take off their masks. You treat this matter as if everything hinges on the mask wearing when in fact it is an element of a complex assault on humanity. A person reads the pamphlet and decides himself to remove it after understanding. You want to rip it off their faces in direct confrontations. Your level of militancy in this regard makes me wonder how you failed to find what you need in stores that sympathise with you. I have. I dont need public confrontations. Especially not in the midst of panicked terrified sheep. Thats just asking for a ride in a police car.

I recently went into a large store here in u.k.

Was approached immediately so as to justify my non compliance.

I said to the security person that I didn’t understand why they were asking me. That at the beginning Boris had said we needed 3 weeks to flatten the curve. And hence after that 3 weeks I had carried on as normal.

Guess I was speaking Martian😂

 

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17 hours ago, allymisfit said:

I'm being called all names under the sun because I won't get it. They say I am putting others at risk.

I would love to know how exactly, but when I ask them, their anger is too strong and they can't even string a sentence of sense without their faces going red and steam coming out of their ears. 

If i try to explain things, they say they don't want to hear it and get angrier. 

 

Unfortunately we are dealing with a lot of nutters just now. 

 

Yes they've done an amazing job with their Year Long vaccine infomercial that they are all beggin forrit

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8 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I recently went into a large store here in u.k.

Was approached immediately so as to justify my non compliance.

I said to the security person that I didn’t understand why they were asking me. That at the beginning Boris had said we needed 3 weeks to flatten the curve. And hence after that 3 weeks I had carried on as normal.

Guess I was speaking Martian😂

 

Ah well silly you.

The non existent pathogen is now spread by healthy people and started mutating the second that the experiment on the human lab rats rolled out.

Do keep up. 🤣

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6 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I recently went into a large store here in u.k.

Was approached immediately so as to justify my non compliance.

I said to the security person that I didn’t understand why they were asking me. That at the beginning Boris had said we needed 3 weeks to flatten the curve. And hence after that 3 weeks I had carried on as normal.

Guess I was speaking Martian😂

 

I live among hunters trappers and farmers. We are heavily armed. Everyone is polite and respectful. My front in this battle is right here in this amazing thread. Its a war of words too.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/germaphobic-habits-are-pretty-much-useless-2016-1?amp

 

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Lest we forget that germophobia has been brainwashed into people for decades so the corporations could sell more sanitizing/hygenic products. The resulting germophobic born of this indoctrination will go fully ballistic at the idea of a worldclassic deadly and rapidly morphing new pathogen. I think the sanitizer culture was a contributing factor in the compliance we see. As I write these words I have several memories of people that were sanitizer nuts long before covid.

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When discussions arise concerning the factors that contribute to weakening or making less effective the immune we speak of microwaves, diet, sunshine but the idea of having exposure to germs is rarely talked about as an important immunity muscle to flex. To this effect we must add the decades old culture of cleanliness zealots as a factor in the reduction of immunity making seasonal flu "appear" more severe when in fact the case was a lowered immune capacity. Many spend their days in velvet corridors sanitized from top to bottom. How hard does a seasonal flu hit these persons? Enough to think covid is real?

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