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2 minutes ago, zArk said:

in civil law countries yes it does

but in common law countries it is very difficult to transpose a state institutional requirement onto a private setting


Look how many of our rights and laws they have pissed on lately. I wouldn't rule anything out.

 

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1 minute ago, Bee said:

Getting worried abut law suits I wonder?

 

My suspicion is they have deliberately sacrificed the Astra jab, because the ones they really want us to have are the mRNA ones.

 

Oh and guess what... Here we go... "Coronavirus Australia live update: Scott Morrison announces 20m more Pfizer vaccine doses after problems with AstraZeneca-led rollout | Australia news | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/apr/09/australia-news-live-covid-vaccine-rollout-blood-clots-astrazeneca-pfizer-scott-morrison-brendan-murphy-women-sexual-harassment-coronavirus-novavax-moderna

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12 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

It seems to me that Canada is getting worse, especially after the Grace life church incident, I reckon Justin Trudeau needs stringing up.

 

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https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/new-survey-says-53-of-canadians-teetering-on-the-brink-of-insolvency/#

 

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Imagine them saying the party is over as if covid was a festivity of some sort. Its truly disgusting witnessing a total absence of lawsuits questioning the root, the PCR test. They rather go down and be destroyed than question the narrative.

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Just now, DarianF said:

 

My suspicion is they have deliberately sacrificed the Astra jab, because the ones they really want us to have are the mRNA ones.

 

Oh and guess what... Here we go... "Coronavirus Australia live update: Scott Morrison announces 20m more Pfizer vaccine doses after problems with AstraZeneca-led rollout | Australia news | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/apr/09/australia-news-live-covid-vaccine-rollout-blood-clots-astrazeneca-pfizer-scott-morrison-brendan-murphy-women-sexual-harassment-coronavirus-novavax-moderna

Ah, good point. Thank you for the links.

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2 minutes ago, Bee said:

Ah, good point. Thank you for the links.


My prediction is they will pull production of the Astra jab, claiming they are protecting us all. Then they will say, "oh but look,  here are these other much safer options..." And of course most idiots will believe them. it's all a game .

 

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2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Pick & Mix jabber.

 

France to recommend mRNA COVID-19 shots as second dose for some after AstraZeneca - minister

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-france-vaccines-idUSKBN2BW0L7

 

Two different types of experimental fast tracked jabs for the labrats to test, what could go wrong?

 

tRuSt ThE ScIeNce.

 

 

But when you read the product information sheets for each jab, they all say the same things. Not interchangeable with other vaccines. Effects unknown.

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18 minutes ago, Bee said:

How can I prove it? You are being deliberately unreasonable.

 

I was so pissed off with the last man to do it I decided to use the system and have reported him to the police who have accepted it as a crime and are investigating, getting CCTV from the shop etc. How can I prove it beyond giving you the crime number?! Unlike others, I walk my talk.

 

Its up to people what they do, its their choice. Its the excuses I can't stand. We all have our own circumstances and situations but at least be honest. If you choose to wear a mask to make your life easier by being perceived to comply then just say so. Don't dress it up and act the warrior online and then happily wear a muzzle to Tesco!

 

I know exactly who I am when the chips are down, its irrelevant to me whether you or anyone believes it. I have been frogmarched out of my job by security in front of all my colleagues for being a whilstle blower over serious safety concerns in an airline that were being systematically covered up. I tried doing it the right way and was ignored so I went to the aviation authority. Married, with a mortgage and helping to financially support my mum. I still did it because I believed it was the right thing to do. Was it bloody awful? Of course it was. Would I do it again? Yes.

 

Live how you want to live but at the very least be honest about your choices and own who you are.

I think pamphleteers are getting more mileage than your incitements to mask confrontations. For me that confrontation has no value in educating people. It just showcases non conformists as ripe to be locked up as dangerous fanatics. By all means go do stuff without a mask but dont expect sympathy from belligerent behaviour. Even in normal times many in countries wear masks voluntarily. You want to reform them too?

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6 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

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https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/new-survey-says-53-of-canadians-teetering-on-the-brink-of-insolvency/#

 

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Imagine them saying the party is over as if covid was a festivity of some sort. Its truly disgusting witnessing a total absence of lawsuits questioning the root, the PCR test. They rather go down and be destroyed than question the narrative.

 

Justin Trudeau

 

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:


My prediction is they will pull production of the Astra jab, claiming they are protecting us all. Then they will say, "oh but look,  here are these other much safer options..." And of course most idiots will believe them. it's all a game .

 

Yep, the whole world is a stage and all that. Maybe if nothing else it may get a few people to pay attention to the injections and look in to them a bit more? 

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1 minute ago, Bee said:

Yep, the whole world is a stage and all that. Maybe if nothing else it may get a few people to pay attention to the injections and look in to them a bit more? 

 

Hopefully, yes.

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1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

I think pamphleteers are getting more nileage than your uncitements to mask confrontations. For me that confrontation has no value in educating people. It just showcases non conformists as ripe to be locked up as dangerous fanatics. By all means go do stiff without a mask but dont expect sympathy from belligerent behaviour. Even in normal times many in countries were masks voluntarily. You want to reform them too?

Belligerent behaviour? Its 'belligerent behaviour' to believe that I should be able to do my shopping without being verbally assaulted and threatened for not wearing a mask and that I will challenge anyone who does so?! You may accept being bullied in a shop; I wont and I dont feel others should be subject to it either. 

 

Got to love all the assumptions you continue to make, such as me not wearing a mask is some kind of rebellion and that I dont do anything else like the 'pamphleteers'!!! I dont wear a mask for the simple reason I like to breathe and I won't wear one and compromise my air intake just because I am told to by a lying tory government and its 'sage' advisors. 

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4 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

herd immunity reached

 

UK set to reach herd immunity 'milestone' within days, say scientists

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-reach-herd-immunity-milestone-within-days-say-scientists-12269405

 

 

 

Well then, that should be the end of it... Oh but wait, bring the variants to justify more lockdown. It will never end.

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10 minutes ago, Bee said:

Belligerent behaviour? Its 'belligerent behaviour' to believe that I should be able to do my shopping without being verbally assaulted and threatened for not wearing a mask and that I will challenge anyone who does so?! You may accept being bullied in a shop; I wont and I dont feel others should be subject to it either. 

 

Got to love all the assumptions you continue to make, such as me not wearing a mask is some kind of rebellion and that I dont do anything else like the 'pamphleteers'!!! I dont wear a mask for the simple reason I like to breathe and I won't wear one and compromise my air intake just because I am told to by a lying tory government and its 'sage' advisors. 

Not everyone is having your experiences. I have been in stores without one and was politely asked but they did not insist. You want people terrified of a killer monster germ to just take off their masks. You treat this matter as if everything hinges on the mask wearing when in fact it is an element of a complex assault on humanity. A person reads the pamphlet and decides himself to remove it after understanding. You want to rip it off their faces in direct confrontations. Your level of militancy in this regard makes me wonder how you failed to find what you need in stores that sympathise with you. I have. I dont need public confrontations. Especially not in the midst of panicked terrified sheep. Thats just asking for a ride in a police car.

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