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I have now been called to the final vaccination deadline as a health care professional. I informed my employer that these vaccines are not technically vaccines, but are "gene therapies" as they employ

You wont believe this.   I just went down Lidls to get some steak.   Security guard calls me out as I walk past & I ignore him. Gets my steak walks to the credit only till

EXPLAIN PLEASE........   People expect so many answers without giving anything back in return.   If the "tin foil hatters" are so nuts, how about the rule followers give some answe

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3 hours ago, Rolandson said:

I am from Austria. On Tuesday i have to go to the hospital. The thing is you need have an negative covid test to get in now.

I will not take that test. fuck them. if I will make one they win.

what would you do?

 

People for too long has believe that health come from a drug or doctor or hospital. No, health come from taking care of your body, keeping yourself healthy.

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1 hour ago, Seconal said:

Why should I pay tax for services I don't use. 

To be clear

The UK tax is for the privilege of using their money

They own the money, you use the money

The services provided are not paid directly from taxes.

Taxes are used on financial markets and the profits are used to pay the services

 

Very clever people created the financial backing for the services but very evil people let them

 

 

 

 

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I keep on hearing jab lovers on social media saying they had their jab and no side effects (i.e. in the days following it)...even though the people I know directly who had it, said they did feel rough, some with extreme fatigue for a few days.

 

But back to the 'jab lovers', they are basing the devil juice being ok/safe after having no 'immediate' side effects.... having known a few people in the past who had 'chemo'...for a day or two after the chemo, they were ok, but then the shit kicked in. This jab is a medium to long term DNA changer...akin to say those who survived Chernobyl saying 'ah the nuclear blast didn't affect me'  but died in the proceeding years from radiation exposure.

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8 minutes ago, Kovidiot said:

People for too long has believe that health come from a drug or doctor or hospital. No, health come from taking care of your body, keeping yourself healthy.

Easy to say... But I had to go to the dentist few months back, people need to check how they pregnancy is going, etc. We achieved quite a lot in medicine and not all of it is wrong... We can't deny that doctors saved a lot of lives... Just hard to spot good doctor, good medicine nowadays... 🙄

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Following on from the NHS tweet that said it safe because it was tested on 30k people. Pfizer vaccine trial started in July and ended in November. 

 

I found this press release 

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine

 

To date, the Data Monitoring Committee for the study has not reported any serious safety concerns related to the vaccine. A review of unblinded reactogenicity data from the final analysis which consisted of a randomized subset of at least 8,000 participants 18 years and older in the phase 2/3 study demonstrates that the vaccine was well tolerated, with most solicited adverse events resolving shortly after vaccination. The only Grade 3 (severe) solicited adverse events greater than or equal to 2% in frequency after the first or second dose was fatigue at 3.8% and headache at 2.0% following dose 2. Consistent with earlier shared results, older adults tended to report fewer and milder solicited adverse events following vaccination.

 

"Older adults tended to report fewer and milder solicited adverse events following vaccination." this is an interesting statement, considering how many old people died soon after receiving the vaccine. Also what does that mean for young people? they have more side effects? 

 

The full list of negative side effects probably looks exactly like what we are seeing now. It is amazing that was approved, considering how much they care about protecting people's health. 

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2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

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My parents are jelly aswell, cant get them to change their mind. Past 65 so I guess they dont give a fluck bout the safety. They just think they can travel again once they recieved the jab x2. Just told them its an IQ test. No reaction at all. News on their telli was on so I guess they were 'focussing' more on that then their son who was trying to convince them otherwise.

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5 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

The only thing I envy is ignorance is bliss. 

 

Second that. If we were all dumb sheep we'd probably be happy with all this because we wouldn't know any better. 

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2 minutes ago, TFH said:

 

Second that. If we were all dumb sheep we'd probably be happy with all this because we wouldn't know any better. 

Basically yes. It truly is hard work to be awakened, but I suppose no one said it would be easy. 

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40 minutes ago, zArk said:

To be clear

The UK tax is for the privilege of using their money

They own the money, you use the money

The services provided are not paid directly from taxes.

Taxes are used on financial markets and the profits are used to pay the services

 

Very clever people created the financial backing for the services but very evil people let them

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zark I get the feeling you will know this.. this post is for those who don't know yet.

 

Money isn't real. It's one big ponzi scheme. Bills of exchange. I promise to pay the bearer on demand. Fractional banking. + If everyone were taxed 100% of everything they earned they still couldn't pay off the national debt. It's all an illusion.

 

Quantitative easing. Sounds technical. It just means printing more mickey mouse money.

 

Mortgages are another illusion. The banks never loan you their money. You create "the money" when you sign the mortgage papers, they are lending you your own money. I have studied this on and off for years. But I admit I am no Michael o'bernicia.

 

edit: sorry its nothing but a garbled mess I've had a long day.

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6 minutes ago, perpetual said:

 

garrh, we should have thought of this earlier!! It's only £80 to hire a boat.

 

That's one way of getting out the country. 

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