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5 hours ago, perpetual said:

'Voluntary'....

This ties in with India as you say below bc they made biometric info voluntary but without it, the can't open a bank account or pay bills etc.

 

 

 

I've always been difficult or weird so nothing new here. 🤣

 

 

 

This should be shared though I don't know how to get the link for it.

It's another focking awful thing. This is just WOW.....and we haven't even got an implant...yet.

I would rather get on a hot air ballon than a dinghy. I've never dreamed of getting in the back of a lorry to go on a holiday but this is now a reality.

 

 

^ that is focking terrible. I hope the guy sue the idiot megalomaniac.

The government won't enforce things but it's in the hands of private companies who end up enforcing.

 

 

 

@perpetual if you right click the video you can either view video and send that link, or save the video and then resend to your contacts that way

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Covid is "textbook" terrorism. State terrorism at its finest psychological development. Terrorism driving a world genocide and a record-breaking swindle. Laying to waste our old systems. Making us feel like deadbeats for wanting to be healthy. Torturing and poisoning our seniors and kids. Pure terror at all levels. Unsubstantiated fear and fully avoidable loss and suffering.

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9 minutes ago, Frankieboy said:

 

 

That airline are total bastards. 

 

The braindead fucking idiots in the twatter comments who are either supporting this treatment or are smugly scoffing at anyone who doesn't "follow the rules" are total CUNTS! 

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Like the masks, the hair dresser's being closed helps to create the illusion that there is still a pandemic. If people were not wearing masks and hair dresser's were open then people wouldn't even think there was still a virus. It is all about continuing the illusion at this point. 

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10 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Democracy isn't so bad if you have social cohesion, but it's a powder keg waiting to explode in our societies.

 

Yes.  Organic democracy in which small groups of people who know each other make decisions among themselves can work well.  It probably wouldn't be known as 'democracy' to the people involved in it.  My criticism is really of mass democracy, which I regard as tyranny.

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20 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Yes.  Organic democracy in which small groups of people who know each other make decisions among themselves can work well.  It probably wouldn't be known as 'democracy' to the people involved in it.  My criticism is really of mass democracy, which I regard as tyranny.

This is so true.

 

Conjob 19 is merely the latest con, but there are many interlocking cons that ensure our enslavement.

 

Representative 'democracy' versus direct democracy, statute law versus common law, fractional reserve banking versus social credit.

 

Social credit used above with its true meaning, not the disgraceful new usage.. which is certainly not an accident.

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11 hours ago, Bombadil said:

I think you’re right somewhat IMO. In democracy most votes decides in theory. Under fascism you’re just told. There’s still the system with the rotten eggs(so to speak) being persecuted though in both.

 

 

It depends what I'm being told to do.  If some elitist wants to tell me what Britain's policy will be towards the Republic of Burundi, or what colour uniform the head matron should wear in hospitals, or whether poofters can work as geography teachers, then I'm happy to leave him to it and best of luck. 

 

If, on the other hand, he wants to keep me in my own home under threat of arrest, without due process or credible evidence of a deadly pandemic, then I am going to start asking questions - at the very least.  It is difficult to see why a fascist system would introduce such measures, since it gains nothing by doing so, and given that - presumably - it would be acting without any formal mechanism of consent, it risks being overthrown by imposing such repressive measures, since the ultimatum in any system, even that of North Korea, is with the People. 

 

On the other hand, it is not difficult to see how a mass democratic system could get away with this.  They can just claim legitimacy on the basis of having the most votes at the last election, thus a so-called 'democracy' sublimates the popular will into a voting mechanism.

 

The Old Britain, or Old England to be more precise, was essentially a libertarian despotism in which democracy was non-existent but liberty was widespread and available to all, and formed the basis of law itself - at least, this was the position in principle.  I believe liberty and democracy are diametrically-opposed.  If you want more democracy, you will have to sacrifice some of your liberty.

 

A minor but important example of this from English history is the abolition of the unanimity rule for criminal juries.  The requirement for unanimity protected the innocent by ensuring that one or two sceptical, intelligent jurors on the panel could block the 'dumb majority'.   This was an essential due process protection that was abolished due to the tendency of mass democracies to dumb down to the lowest common denominator and act tyrannically.

 

It is also a perfect analogy for the situation we are in now.  Imagine that all 70 million [90 million?] of us are sitting in a big jury room.  We, here on this Forum, and on similar fora elsewhere, are the sceptical/intelligent minority, but we have a problem: we're outvoted by the dumb masses, and we have no unanimity protection, which means we can't block them on the basis that their majority wishes infringe our fundamental civil liberties.

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11 hours ago, skitzorat said:

They're a burden [read; not "expense" so much as burden] on the State....

 

Although it's obvious the spending spree on the UK credit card is endless because everything is going to be 'reset' anyway... its fucking galling reading this..

 

Government saves £600m on state pension payments as Covid deaths surge

Fiscal watchdog increases the estimated number of excess pensioner deaths by 45pc

ByJessica Beard, PENSIONS REPORTER25 November 2020 • 3:06pm

http://web.archive.org/web/20210123094903/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/government-saves-600m-state-pension-payments-covid-deaths-surge/

 

 

UKC News...just like taking the sick out of hospital and sticking them back in homes, then denying them even basic antiboitics...then love and affection from family...happening ALL OVER THE WORLD... obvious agenda...and now here comes the jab!  makes me sick!

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Never understood the logic in believing paying out benefits and pensions is costly, and cutting them saves money.


Fact is, when these people are payed, they then spend the money in local shops etc helping keep millions in work.


I think those at the top are well aware of this, because you only have to look at countries with generous benefits in place, and you can see that it reduces crime and increases living standards. 

 

Although I'm very weary of UBI, I think there could be a case to be made where it could work. But only under an honest Government system ( not the one we have) and a system of price capping introduced on essential living items like milk and Bread.


 

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8 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Jeremy Vine show, Radio 2, the callers are BEGGING for the covid passports. I am not buying it I think they are letting  those in favour of it have the say, as per usual.

 

Do you think, if we held a plebiscite on this, the masses would vote by a majority - perhaps overwhelmingly - for a mandatory Covid-19 certification scheme?  Maybe even compulsory measures, such as testing for dissidents and recalcitrants?

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8 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

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Free to run like hell if a grizzly is closing on you 😁 Fear does serve a purpose when the danger is real and a fight-or-flight situation arises.

I think the fearlessness would apply to death as well hence you wouldn't need to run from the grizzly as you wouldnt be fearing for your life, It would mean you would stand your ground, a punch on the nose has been said to ward off bears. But like with dogs, if an animal smells fear it will generally attack.

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13 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Jeremy Vine show, Radio 2, the callers are BEGGING for the covid passports. I am not buying it I think they are letting  those in favour of it have the say, as per usual.

Those in favour or just paid stooges.

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Since we're talking about generic fascism and Nazism, etc., it occurs me that the dissidents and Jews that the Nazis detained en masse consisted significantly of the very sort of people who are now imposing this repressive health security regime on us.

 

Don't misunderstand - I'm not defending mass incarceration.  I'm not even sure that it's right for convicted criminals in general, never mind dissidents, and I also accept that many of the people put in these camps were blameless.  But not all of them were blameless. 

 

I know this is controversial, but my opinion is that Britain and Europe lost the Second World War to the Left, Jewry and anti-European forces, and I think it is possible - this is only a theory - that what is happening now could be the 'final battle': in other words, part of a continuum in which the underlying social, ethnic and ideological conflicts of the Second World War were never resolved, but are now reaching finality.

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26 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Jeremy Vine show, Radio 2, the callers are BEGGING for the covid passports. I am not buying it I think they are letting  those in favour of it have the say, as per usual.

I see the same here ! If you go to the comments section of any Mainstream news site, the tendency is,  any comments going against MSM view is not put through or blocked ! But comment approving of the MS view is put for all to see ! Tried it myself

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44 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Jeremy Vine show, Radio 2, the callers are BEGGING for the covid passports. I am not buying it I think they are letting  those in favour of it have the say, as per usual.

 

Interestingly on LBC this morning they were mainly anti, one notable exception being some one claiming to be in hospital recovering from COVID.

I guess Radio 2 is for frightened pensioners sucking on the BBC teat.

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35 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

Since we're talking about generic fascism and Nazism, etc., it occurs me that the dissidents and Jews that the Nazis detained en masse consisted significantly of the very sort of people who are now imposing this repressive health security regime on us.

 

Don't misunderstand - I'm not defending mass incarceration.  I'm not even sure that it's right for convicted criminals in general, never mind dissidents, and I also accept that many of the people put in these camps were blameless.  But not all of them were blameless. 

 

I know this is controversial, but my opinion is that Britain and Europe lost the Second World War to the Left, Jewry and anti-European forces, and I think it is possible - this is only a theory - that what is happening now could be the 'final battle': in other words, part of a continuum in which the underlying social, ethnic and ideological conflicts of the Second World War were never resolved, but are now reaching finality.

 

I agree, and I suggest to start a debate in a new thread. Kudos to you for speaking truth.

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