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6 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Israel’s dilemma: Can those refusing vaccination return to workplaces?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-04-02/israels-dilemma-can-the-unvaccinated-return-to-workplaces

 

So 80% of the Israeli adult population is full vaccinated, but still they're not satisfied. So now the narrative has changed again. It's no longer, "Herd Immunity" but, "No-one's safe until EVERYONE is safe".

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

And it comes a day after the Telegraph report where Whitty has said that Covid is now to be treated like flu. It has basically been admitted that lockdowns haven't worked and now the psychological manipulation employed by the government is being exposed too.

 

I think there is a plan long term to discredit national governments which will then need to be replaced by a new world order. So maybe this is the start of that process happening.

 

Whilst the WEF prediction that, by 2030, we will "own nothing" and "be happy" receives a lot of attention, what seems to get noticed far less is where, at the end of the infamous video, it also states that "Western values have been tested to the breaking point". This will mean that, by 2030, "checks and balances that underpin our democracies must not be forgotten" (prediction number 8).

 

I think this is why the governments are going so overboard with their tyranny - to provide the justification for a new system once all their wrongdoings are brought into the light of day.

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/democracy-checks-balances/

 

 

 

I love the term checks and balances, it has Fuck all to do with anything. The best example I think is Mr Blair and he's chums take us into a illegal war in the middle east murdering horrendous amounts of people. They check it, then balance it out with making him middle east peace envoy. You've gotta luv those checks and balances.

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Only slightly off topic, but I was wondering, if I were to use the age-old expression, "It's as useless as men's tits", would that qualify as Trans Hate Speech?

Because, goddam it, I don't want to offend anybody.

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6 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

Only slightly off topic, but I was wondering, if I were to use the age-old expression, "It's as useless as men's tits", would that qualify as Trans Hate Speech?

Because, goddam it, I don't want to offend anybody.

Also coming to the banned list soon:

 

Chocolate Teapots (because drink containers matter)

 

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1 minute ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Also coming to the banned list soon:

 

Chocolate Teapots (because drink containers matter)

 

Well yes, and as the PCR tests are about as useful as a chocolate teapot, then chocolate teapots must therefore be essential.

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4 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

So 80% of the Israeli adult population is full vaccinated, but still they're not satisfied. So now the narrative has changed again. It's no longer, "Herd Immunity" but, "No-one's safe until EVERYONE is safe".

 

 

Zionazis definitely leading the march..1984=1948

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21 hours ago, Outsider said:

They will give it over to nature and allow her to do as she wishes...rather like Pripyat. The way this is going I'm wondering if there will be no great dramatic change....they will just slowly propagandise the great reset in such a way that the masses won't realise it's occured. 

yes  step by step as always

making reasons to fit the overall agenda... we should be used to it by now but what happens when the deliverers of the message get affected?  someone will;l squeal. They cant keep shtum forever?

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25 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

Only slightly off topic, but I was wondering, if I were to use the age-old expression, "It's as useless as men's tits", would that qualify as Trans Hate Speech?

Because, goddam it, I don't want to offend anybody.

I don’t need to be trans. I could be gender fluid and later on today feel trans!😂

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15 minutes ago, gibby said:

yes  step by step as always

making reasons to fit the overall agenda... we should be used to it by now but what happens when the deliverers of the message get affected?  someone will;l squeal. They cant keep shtum forever?

Sooner or later they will have to give special status to military and police. Give them similar, or an illusion of similar , rights and benefits to the ruling elite. The ruling elite will have to keep them happy and on side. Maybe as well,  bonuses for cracked skulls  of dissenters. All the military etc will be worried about is their wages and families, not yours or mine. IMO  

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8 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I don’t need to be trans. I could be gender fluid and later on today feel trans!😂

 

Didn't your missus put you down on the census as a gender fluid Jehovah's Witness?!

 

That line cracked me up, btw!

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2 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

Lol.

But seriously.

Gender fluid. 

Eeoow.

Sounds like a side effect of something.

In vulgar terms as I discussed with my lady. I thought gender fluid would be sperm etc😁

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Just now, wingwang said:

 

Didn't your missus put you down on the census as a gender fluid Jehovah's Witness?!

 

That line cracked me up, btw!

Yes, she really did. Luckily her not being English, though she has the right to remain means that I have multiple avenues of counter attack. Calls to immigration etc. Think she needs to be extra nice😆

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1 hour ago, Standfirm said:


Not all national governments are doing the exact same thing (just look at East Asia for some examples). So presumably you mean mostly 'western' governments?

 

You said:

 

"I think there is a plan long term to discredit national governments which will then need to be replaced by a new world order. So maybe this is the start of that process happening."

 

I was responding in part to clarify this does not require COVID-19 or even a pandemic threat, nor is it the start of that process. Besides, from our perspective, shouldn't national governments have been discredited years ago because of how corrupt and compromised they became?

 

I think COVID is a temporary smokescreen to accelerate the plan (and distract us from other changes coming in, such as the recent Agriculture Bill in the UK). It will be discarded as a narrative when it outlives its usefulness. Just like the other pandemic scares of the last several decades. Perhaps other so-called pandemics may take its place (SPARS for example), I'm not 100% certain on that. I expect climate change is going to be the continued standby.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

And, just to clarify also what I meant about the process starting, I was referring to, within the context of the recent Telegraph articles, the unravelling of the Covid narrative and where I think this may lead. It seems that we are in agreement that Covid is at least part of the plan towards one world government, even if mainly a distraction like you say.

 

Regarding your point about other "pandemics" (such as, for example, SARS 1 and swine flu), none of them has caused governments to lock down and suspend liberties on such a monumental scale before, nor has there been before the level of collateral mortality rates caused by lockdowns. So this "pandemic" seems to be very different from what has gone before. I think this time, if the truth were to come out that this is all a scam, or even if revelations were made about staggering levels of government incompetence, the level of public outrage could dwarf anything seen before.

 

Given that most of the public seem blind and apathetic towards how corrupt and compromised governments are, which I would suggest has been proven by the mass acceptance of this patently ridiculous Covid narrative, perhaps the sledgehammer tyrannical approach is now needed within western societies to really ram home the point and to cause the necessary loss of public trust and acceptance that our democracies are in radical need of reform.

 

Of course this is all just speculation which is part of the point of this forum. Nobody knows the full truth but it is a great place to share ideas. So thank you for your thoughts.

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2 minutes ago, gibby said:

Setting parents against their kids /  "kids do you really want to visit grandma?  you could harm her with the virus

 

the whole agenda/ thing is sick 

The problem is that in the u.k they have been setting parent against kids for years now. I left school in 1990. Used to hide letters from the school because I knew I was due a wallop. Now kids rule the roost. Fed by so called influencers, media crap, screaming liberals etc.

I’ve always seen who I like , when I like. And those that moan can fuck off.

lady down the road from me died recently at 47. Young kids etc. I reckon nearly 500 people lined the road to say farewell.

I know it sounds mean but if my mother doesn’t want to see my kids because of corona, she’s ready to be put out to pasture.

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I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

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2 minutes ago, gibby said:

I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

Reckon they enjoy being told what to do. I should imagine you can buy such a variety of face nappies they’ll be content until they die gasping. 

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yes I even see people in cars wearing masks and some people letting the mask drape down from one ear !!

 

such a fuc..ng fashion statement!!

 

I am in disbelief where we are now

 

People are more dangerous than people !!!

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Went in local shop earlier, no mask obviously. Enjoyed walking behind one panicked prat looking over his shoulder and speeding up.

when I got to the counter and placed my items. The lady scanned,then I took them again. You know normal stuff. 
i told that if she or I had corona, just by touching the items it may have been transferred. She literally shat herself😂

 

Same woman after brexit was happily telling me and my Italian wife about how great getting rid of the foreigners was.

Now bullshit admittedly I told her they had plans for 4 million Africans to come over as a replacement. Went white the racist bitch😁

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14 minutes ago, gibby said:

I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

I just read the propaganda on the back of my grandads mirror. 

 

"They also SHOW you want to keep them safe". 

 

 

 

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