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15 minutes ago, gibby said:

yes  step by step as always

making reasons to fit the overall agenda... we should be used to it by now but what happens when the deliverers of the message get affected?  someone will;l squeal. They cant keep shtum forever?

Sooner or later they will have to give special status to military and police. Give them similar, or an illusion of similar , rights and benefits to the ruling elite. The ruling elite will have to keep them happy and on side. Maybe as well,  bonuses for cracked skulls  of dissenters. All the military etc will be worried about is their wages and families, not yours or mine. IMO  

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Just now, wingwang said:

 

Didn't your missus put you down on the census as a gender fluid Jehovah's Witness?!

 

That line cracked me up, btw!

Yes, she really did. Luckily her not being English, though she has the right to remain means that I have multiple avenues of counter attack. Calls to immigration etc. Think she needs to be extra nice😆

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1 hour ago, Standfirm said:


Not all national governments are doing the exact same thing (just look at East Asia for some examples). So presumably you mean mostly 'western' governments?

 

You said:

 

"I think there is a plan long term to discredit national governments which will then need to be replaced by a new world order. So maybe this is the start of that process happening."

 

I was responding in part to clarify this does not require COVID-19 or even a pandemic threat, nor is it the start of that process. Besides, from our perspective, shouldn't national governments have been discredited years ago because of how corrupt and compromised they became?

 

I think COVID is a temporary smokescreen to accelerate the plan (and distract us from other changes coming in, such as the recent Agriculture Bill in the UK). It will be discarded as a narrative when it outlives its usefulness. Just like the other pandemic scares of the last several decades. Perhaps other so-called pandemics may take its place (SPARS for example), I'm not 100% certain on that. I expect climate change is going to be the continued standby.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

And, just to clarify also what I meant about the process starting, I was referring to, within the context of the recent Telegraph articles, the unravelling of the Covid narrative and where I think this may lead. It seems that we are in agreement that Covid is at least part of the plan towards one world government, even if mainly a distraction like you say.

 

Regarding your point about other "pandemics" (such as, for example, SARS 1 and swine flu), none of them has caused governments to lock down and suspend liberties on such a monumental scale before, nor has there been before the level of collateral mortality rates caused by lockdowns. So this "pandemic" seems to be very different from what has gone before. I think this time, if the truth were to come out that this is all a scam, or even if revelations were made about staggering levels of government incompetence, the level of public outrage could dwarf anything seen before.

 

Given that most of the public seem blind and apathetic towards how corrupt and compromised governments are, which I would suggest has been proven by the mass acceptance of this patently ridiculous Covid narrative, perhaps the sledgehammer tyrannical approach is now needed within western societies to really ram home the point and to cause the necessary loss of public trust and acceptance that our democracies are in radical need of reform.

 

Of course this is all just speculation which is part of the point of this forum. Nobody knows the full truth but it is a great place to share ideas. So thank you for your thoughts.

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2 minutes ago, gibby said:

Setting parents against their kids /  "kids do you really want to visit grandma?  you could harm her with the virus

 

the whole agenda/ thing is sick 

The problem is that in the u.k they have been setting parent against kids for years now. I left school in 1990. Used to hide letters from the school because I knew I was due a wallop. Now kids rule the roost. Fed by so called influencers, media crap, screaming liberals etc.

I’ve always seen who I like , when I like. And those that moan can fuck off.

lady down the road from me died recently at 47. Young kids etc. I reckon nearly 500 people lined the road to say farewell.

I know it sounds mean but if my mother doesn’t want to see my kids because of corona, she’s ready to be put out to pasture.

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I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

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2 minutes ago, gibby said:

I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

Reckon they enjoy being told what to do. I should imagine you can buy such a variety of face nappies they’ll be content until they die gasping. 

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yes I even see people in cars wearing masks and some people letting the mask drape down from one ear !!

 

such a fuc..ng fashion statement!!

 

I am in disbelief where we are now

 

People are more dangerous than people !!!

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Went in local shop earlier, no mask obviously. Enjoyed walking behind one panicked prat looking over his shoulder and speeding up.

when I got to the counter and placed my items. The lady scanned,then I took them again. You know normal stuff. 
i told that if she or I had corona, just by touching the items it may have been transferred. She literally shat herself😂

 

Same woman after brexit was happily telling me and my Italian wife about how great getting rid of the foreigners was.

Now bullshit admittedly I told her they had plans for 4 million Africans to come over as a replacement. Went white the racist bitch😁

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14 minutes ago, gibby said:

I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

I just read the propaganda on the back of my grandads mirror. 

 

"They also SHOW you want to keep them safe". 

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, gibby said:

I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

 

Where I am, around 1% have masks on in the parks.  Last monday, it was just like one big, packed out pub garden, as per usual no worries about social distancing or maskies.

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44 minutes ago, gibby said:

yes I even see people in cars wearing masks and some people letting the mask drape down from one ear !!

 

such a fuc..ng fashion statement!!

 

As soon as the 'fashion masks' started coming out, I knew this would become a 'trend', and it was no 'temporary measure'.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, gibby said:

I live near a park where I take my dog out for a walk regularly. I see lots of people... and 70% have masks on. And some wear  masks whilst running/ cycling

 

I ask myself what has the MSM done to those people mentally?

 

I cant take in the level of control that people have succumbed to

 

Its so heartbreaking

 

I'm really lucky I suppose in that I have a number of parks and open green spaces just a short walk away.

 

All the people I saw this afternoon when I went for a walk were all 'maskless', and thankfully most were pleasant, you know with the smile, nod, or 'hello/hi/afternoon' short verbal acknowledgement. Also, no sideways dodging or jumping out the way. Almost like the old days!

 

The one exception was a cyclist who passed me from behind. Cycle helmet and surgical mask. Almost amusing. I didn't say it out loud, but I did say to myself "why are you wearing a mask?" 😷

 

As I've stated before here, its the lack of logical or critical thinking that disappoints me the most with some people.

 

You're on a bicycle. You're outdoors. You're riding through a great open space. You're also moving much faster than people walking. It has never been mandatory to wear face coverings outdoors. So why are you wearing a mask?

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From the front page of today's London Times; make of this what you will:  

 

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We'll stop you getting sick, says NHS chief

Bin men to help doctors target vulnerable people

 

Britain's successful vaccination programme will be used as a "blueprint for the future" of the health service, the head of NHS in England has promised.

Sir Simon Stevens says the immunisation drive will inspire fundamental changes to the way the NHS cares for people.  Health workers will seek out the most vulnerable to help them to stay healthy rather than waiting for them to become ill.

More than 30 million people, or almost 60 percent of adults, have had a first vaccine dose.  The immunisation rate is already among the highest in the world and the NHS hopes to improve it further by searching for all eligible adults to encourage them to book a jab.

Writing in The Times today, Stevens says that he is determined to apply the lessons of the programme to the attempts to fight cancer, heart disease and other big killers.

Refuse collectors will alert GPs when residents become too frail to put out the rubbish, doctors will go through medical records to find those most at risk of heart attacks and councils will contact people who miss cancer screenings to ask them to get checked, he says.

The NHS, which is embarking on the bigger reforms in a decade, has long sought to improve the prevention of ill health, but Stevens believes the vaccination drive has shown how powerful this approach can become if it is regarded as a central priority.  Vaccinating more than 30 million people "has, under the worst of circumstances, shown the NHS at its best", he writes.

"Hospitals are now seeing a much quicker fall in coronavirus patients than after the first wave last spring.  Vaccination is demonstrably working."

 

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Local areas will be told to identify the people most likely to develop cancer, heart disease, diabetes and other serious illness, work out how to reduce that risk and then encourage them to take up the offer.

 

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Stevens says that the NHS will "identify and tackle the causes of ill health, from poor housing to lifestyle."

 

 

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