DumSpiroSpero Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, truegroup said: Really, is this the state of truthers now? Unbelievable that you can even feed yourself with a spoon and not cause self harm! https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/791/regulation/7/made Fixed penalty notices 7.—(1) An authorised person may issue a fixed penalty notice to anyone that the authorised person reasonably believes— (a)has committed an offence under these Regulations, and (b)is aged 18 or over. (2) A fixed penalty notice is a notice offering the person to whom it is issued the opportunity of discharging any liability to conviction for the offence by payment of a fixed penalty to the authority specified in the notice. (3) The authority specified in the notice must be an officer designated by the Secretary of State for the purposes of this regulation (“the designated officer”). (4) Where a person is issued with a notice under this regulation in respect of an offence— (a)no proceedings may be taken for the offence before the end of the period of 28 days following the date of the notice; (b)the person may not be convicted of the offence if the person pays the fixed penalty before the end of that period. (5) A fixed penalty notice must— (a)give reasonably detailed particulars of the circumstances alleged to constitute the offence; (b)state the period during which (because of paragraph (4)(a)) proceedings will not be taken for the offence; (c)specify the amount of the fixed penalty; (d)state the name and address of the designated officer to whom the fixed penalty may be paid; (e)specify permissible methods of payment. (6) The amount specified under paragraph (5)(c) must, subject to paragraph (7), be £100. (7) A fixed penalty notice must specify that if £50 is paid before the end of the period of 14 days following the date of the notice that is the amount of the fixed penalty. (8) Whatever other method may be specified under paragraph (5)(e), payment of a fixed penalty may be made by pre-paying and posting to the person whose name is stated under paragraph (5)(d), at the stated address, a letter containing the amount of the penalty (in cash or otherwise). (9) Where a letter is sent as mentioned in paragraph (8), payment is regarded as having been made at the time at which the letter would be delivered in the ordinary course of the post. (10) In any proceedings, a certificate— (a)that purports to be signed by or on behalf of the designated officer, and (b)states that the payment was, or was not, received by the date specified in the certificate, is evidence of the facts stated. (11) In this regulation, “authorised person” means— (a)a constable, (b)a police community support officer, (c)in relation to any transport hub from or to which a TfL public transport service is provided, a TfL officer, or (d)a person designated by the Secretary of State for the purposes of this regulation. Educate yourself, read. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/791/contents/made And wear a bloody mask. You forgot the part about exemptions, let me help you out As you can see if you find wearing a mask psychologically disressing you don't have to wear one and you are exempt This law is uninforceable because of that particular loophole. That's why they are fining only a small amount of people who aren't clued up about the law (also because normally they have better things to do). If you know your rights and print off the legislation and put it in your pocket you will be all set. DON'T WEAR A MASK. Hold your head up high and go about your business as usual. A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep. Reasonable excuse 4.—(1) For the purposes of regulation 3(1), the circumstances in which a person (“P”) has a reasonable excuse include those where— (a)P cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering— (i)because of any physical or mental illness or impairment, or disability (within the meaning of section 6 of the Equality Act 2010(1)), or (ii)without severe distress; 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchaLove Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Messenger said: Matcha, are you referring to the train that derailed in Arizona? DI forum member @Michi713 had mentioned toxic waste materials in one of her posts/threads, and the train that derailed in AZ, a bystander said that they saw the train in flames. Thank you, I thought it was CA and a train that led to the sea. Well, at least if you know that they tried to kill us dozens (98% of the population) of times in the last 5 years alone, then you know that this sounds more fact then fiction, the wolf can only cry so many times. One of their favorite symbols. I will look more into this one. I mean, there were around 20 survivors caught alive and well from [email protected] [email protected], on camera, and FAKE news rears its head to tell us otherwise. Its just a conspiracy theory. (they used 4/5 y/o pictures of 10ish year old children). Now they are adults just walking out there, and we have yet MORE crisis actors walking around. This is the true power of FAKE NEWS, that JFK warned ABOUT!!! They can tell you your a$$ is your mouth basically! We have to press the issue of why these BIG people killed JFK, b/c FAKE NEWs and AREA 51 had the most to gain form his death!!! The military-industrial complex had the most to benefit from his death. I wont get into the dirty details, but its all LINKED Area 51 (greys and other bad aliens manipulations of humanity), the letter agencies, Hollywood, politics, and the military. The greys who center themselves as the center of operations in the Illuminati, all occult runs through Area 51. He was going to make it punishable with jail time to a single fake story. Let alone these clowns that have literally a life's sentence worth of fake news and stories. Not to mention, the honest journalist that never makes it a single day on the job with fake news journalist. They took a good JOB description and turned it into a a hell like experience for those that are honest. Before you discount my theories, they killed him right after that speech on FAKE NEWS!!!! We have the blood dripping from FAKE NEWS's hands!!! They killed one of the most iconic people of all time in America. Edited August 11, 2020 by MatchaLove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 news people now stand at the top of the pyramid, and let's recall they still themselves don't wear masks in their TV studios... they're the ones who command but never comply... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchaLove Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, chud said: news people now stand at the top of the pyramid, and let's recall they still themselves don't wear masks in their TV studios... they're the ones who command but never comply... Area 51 is really Area6. 666 Now read the red colored print above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MatchaLove said: Thank you, I thought it was CA and a train that led to the sea. Well, at least if you know that they tried to kill us dozens (98% of the population) of times in the last 5 years alone, then you know that this sounds more fact then fiction, the wolf can only cry so many times. One of their favorite symbols. I will look more into this one. I mean, there were around 20 survivors caught alive and well from [email protected] [email protected], on camera, and FAKE news rears its head to tell us otherwise. Its just a conspiracy theory. (they used 4/5 y/o pictures of 10ish year old children). Now they are adults just walking out there, and we have yet MORE crisis actors walking around. This is the true power of FAKE NEWS, that JFK warned ABOUT!!! They can tell you your a$$ is your mouth basically! We have to press the issue of why these BIG people killed JFK, b/c FAKE NEWs and AREA 51 had the most to gain form his death!!! The military-industrial complex had the most to benefit from his death. I wont get into the dirty details, but its all LINKED Area 51 (greys and other bad aliens manipulations of humanity), the letter agencies, Hollywood, politics, and the military. The greys who center themselves as the center of operations in the Illuminati, all occult runs through Area 51. He was going to make it punishable with jail time to a single fake story. Let alone these clowns that have literally a life's sentence worth of fake news and stories. Not to mention, the honest journalist that never makes it a single day on the job with fake news journalist. They took a good JOB description and turned it into a a hell like experience for those that are honest. Before you discount my theories, they killed him right after that speech on FAKE NEWS!!!! We have the blood dripping from FAKE NEWS's hands!!! They killed one of the most iconic people of all time in America. There was a train derailment in CA when this all started back in March I think. Then a week ago was the train derailment in AZ. I'm well aware of the Sandy Hook psyop and how they pulled it off and I believe you are correct. The "parents" and MSM used photos taken of the children years prior and showed those to the public on TV. Then only a couple months later the kids sang at Sandy Hook and no one realized it was them because they were much older than what was showed in the staged "shooting". https://www.bitchute.com/video/RISXMnGMrh93/ Speaking of derailment, let's not derail the corona thread. What happened to your other thread that you had going where we were talking about Pizzagate? Did it survive the latest hack a couple weeks ago? Edited August 11, 2020 by Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MatchaLove said: Area 51 is really Area6. 666 Now read the red colored print above. are you trying to bewitch me or something ? sorry but I'm not familiar with these codes and I don't believe in aliens... I focus and try to report on what such people do and not what they believe or assume they're doing, because if I let myself get trapped into their occultism and mythology then I'm made lose my common sense... which I refuse to and never will... Just a RANDOM example... whether it's made for that purpose or not doesn't change the fact that it's the effect it has on populations : THE MASK is a wide scale group therapy to make those who got common sense give it up or lose it, because they're being forced against their will and under fine penalty to do adopt an incoherent attitude and do something incoherent for a daily time depending on their job or lifestyle… it's a group therapy like those run in evil cults for the follower's initiation and indoctrination… It's basically a crime against Humanity unless you take it as a 'joke'……. But you must then have quite a sense of humor and a twisted one at that… Edited August 11, 2020 by chud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Aliens exist alright, many people have talked about it but this isn't the thread for that topic. I found this today also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 9 hours ago, chud said: COVID-19 is a Chinese job but not the way you may think… While the 'coronavirus' term refers to nothing that ever existed in the reality, 'COVID-19' is the name of a wide scale operation wanted, planned and prepared by the Chinese in collaboration with Western legal or physical persons like the WHO or Bill Gates to further their own agenda in the process, or even Microsoft that only lately factory embedded the Chinese language and police to their Windows operating systems. All these collaborating people and companies along with Westerner states have been discretely or secretly contracting and dealing with the China controlled AIIB alternative world bank for its 'takeover' of the Western economy and industry. As part of the planning process the whole COVID-19 and related lockdowns, shutdowns and accessory 'sanitary rules' were implemented and imposed on the Westerner populations by either China or the AIIB as an 'economical cleansing' process intended to deliver to the Asian world bank a 'healthy' Western economical situation where the only core and frame of economy and industry would remain. This hypothesis in no way reductive to say the least, but as you know it nothing can be explained without having to consider underlying motivations, in the occurrence the double-sided and multi-faced attitude of involved Westerner protagonists deliberately and sneakily betraying their mother civilization like parasites jumping onto a stronger and healthier new 'host' for their own survival. I'm in no way meaning to support or advocate war on China, just suggesting that if the involved protagonists weren't so concerned about losing votes and compromising their 'reputation' (), then the same could be achieved in all broad daylight and honesty when such a secrecy and conspiracy are in no way required, which honesty and transparency would spare as much Western as Chinese populations having to wear paper masks just to please or amuse the Asian world bank. I don't think China/USA is the source of the SCAMDEMIC. The ruling cabal ( top masons, Rothschilds, Jews, secret societies) had that all planned out A LONG TIME AGO. In 1 of my recent posts, I provided a video on this issue and the scenario was written in 2014. Mind you, it was just a written scenario but it's EXACTLY what we're living today... Must be a coincidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 https://www.bitchute.com/video/uuVhAaqcl4k/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, wideawake said: the scenario was written in 2014. Mind you, it was just a written scenario but it's EXACTLY what we're living today... CONPLAN 8888-11 dates back from 2011, please check it... 'infected zombies', 'law and order', lockdowns, you got almost all of it already... I'm referring to world domination and banking through the Asian takeover of the West yet nobody seems to follow me on that ground... this is concrete and real stuff.. they mean business !.. Edited August 11, 2020 by chud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, chud said: CONPLAN 8888-11 dates back from 2011, please check it... 'infected zombies', 'law and order', lockdowns, you got almost all of it already... I'm referring to world domination and banking through the Asian takeover of the West yet nobody seems to follow me on that ground... they're concrete and real stuff.. they mean business !.. Did you watch the video link I provided? It's not about zombies but about actions and measures taken (past) to combat this deadly virus. Exactly "to a T" of what is happening now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karol Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Hi I am new to this forum and trying to understand for myself everything that’s going on in the world. I work in a healthcare setting, not in a hospital but I do talk to people every day who have family members that work in the hospital. They tell me about young people in their 30s that are like marathon runners and now need a long transplant. There was also a person we treated who was 30 a little bit overweight had asthma otherwise fairly healthy guy and he was in the hospital for several weeks with Covid supposedly. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could read about what people are getting sick from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Dr Siegal..yet another Jew telling you what you got to do & of course taking the piss at the same time. Fauci, Dershowitz, Gates...when are people going to really wake up? https://nationalfile.com/video-doctor-recommends-students-wear-yellow-badges-if-they-havent-been-vaccinated/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, wideawake said: Did you watch the video link I provided? It's not about zombies but about actions and measures taken (past) to combat this deadly virus. Exactly "to a T" of what is happening now. I promise I will... but actually what I'm focusing on is WHY what's happening now is being happening, and not how it was backed up... still no reaction over the takeover of the West and it seems people don't even want to know what the AIIB is... it took me only a few seconds to learn about it for the first time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Karol said: Hi I am new to this forum and trying to understand for myself everything that’s going on in the world. I work in a healthcare setting, not in a hospital but I do talk to people every day who have family members that work in the hospital. They tell me about young people in their 30s that are like marathon runners and now need a long transplant. There was also a person we treated who was 30 a little bit overweight had asthma otherwise fairly healthy guy and he was in the hospital for several weeks with Covid supposedly. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could read about what people are getting sick from? Lots to read if you know where to go but Bitchute has lots of videos with experts or in the know people telling you what is really going on. For a start , you could watch the link I provided in my previous post. Good luck searching and btw many on here will post some good links, keep an eye open. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, chud said: I promise I will... but actually what I'm focusing on is WHY what's happening now is being happening, and not how it was backed up... still no reaction over the takeover of the West and it seems people don't even want to know what the AIIB is... it took me only a few seconds to learn about it for the first time... the takeover is world wide, not just America... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chud Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) Quote the takeover is world wide, not just America... I never said otherwise, I've been alluding to world domination... Edited August 11, 2020 by chud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Dr Siegal..yet another Jew telling you what you got to do & of course taking the piss at the same time. Fauci, Dershowitz, Gates...when are people going to really wake up? https://nationalfile.com/video-doctor-recommends-students-wear-yellow-badges-if-they-havent-been-vaccinated/ ... And people believe this s**t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 From what I can tell, I would say specifically the plan for a virus threat goes back way further than 1 or 2 decades. It is a long played out meme using an invisible enemy to control. Before the so called HIV/aids crisis, funding for virus research had all but dried up and the meme of the pathogenic virus was on its last legs. When HIV/aids was "discovered" the funds poured in and viruses suddenly became the topic of concern! The only reason that you keep a falsehood alive is so that you can use it politically and politics is state control. To understand this it is required to delve deeper. Terrain verses germ theory illucidates the issue further - Pastuer was politically and financially connected. Logical comparisons between terrain and germ theory ultimately display the flaws of germ theory and is worth interrogating with objectivity. Going back further still, religions have used fear of the "unseen" to superstitiously terrorise the masses into subjugation for centuries. Its a meme that has been played out for centuries and merely changes shape according to the times and prevailing state of technological development. Superstition Rules and ferments in the mind to create fears that shape reality according to those who originate it to deceive and control. Psychopaths are intrinsically logical and astute observers of ordinary people. It is easy for them to understand the triggers for behaviour to achieve a desired outcome. All authoritarians fall into this category. It does not matter what your existential view is, whether esoteric, religious, scientific, occult, psychological, alien or any combination and /or of anything else. It all plays out the same way and the weights and measures of problem reaction solution direct toward the same end. The same trick over and over for centuries. from every angle and from multiple paid actors Poeple have got to learn. The germans peaceful protest is a sign that they are getting it. our turn please! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Karol said: Hi I am new to this forum and trying to understand for myself everything that’s going on in the world. I work in a healthcare setting, not in a hospital but I do talk to people every day who have family members that work in the hospital. They tell me about young people in their 30s that are like marathon runners and now need a long transplant. There was also a person we treated who was 30 a little bit overweight had asthma otherwise fairly healthy guy and he was in the hospital for several weeks with Covid supposedly. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could read about what people are getting sick from? Hi Karol. This is not so easy to explain in few words so I will type this up real quick and hopefully you are receptive to read through it and check the information. A lot of people who have taken up vaping are now realizing that their lungs are destroyed and this is particularly due to the E-acetate additive that some flavors contain. I remember the vape bandwagon because I almost got on it back in 2009 or so. Vaping was the new thing that all the sheeple began touting as a much safer method than smoking the traditional way. I got a hold of one of the first vape pens with some cannabis oil and thankfully I didn't really like the way it made my lungs feel so I stopped and went back to smoking my cannabis out of a glass pipe, the purest way one can smoke, a glass pipe, water "bong", or from a stone pipe. Look into the dangers of E-acetate. The other part of why humanity are so sick is because of what people have been conditioned to believe is "food". So many people are sick because most of what they are eating are chemicals, GMO's, and toxic substances which fall on the acid side of the pH scale. The high acid intake from GMO (genetically modified organisms) and chemicals causes mucus in the body, in various organs, which is where the bacteria forms thus putting the body in a state of dis-ease, or rather not at ease. This article gives a brief explanation followed by a list of proper food/nutrition that is alkaline on the pH scale. Notice how it does not contain: spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, celery, cauliflower, garlic, and orange carrots. ALL items that people have been led to believe are good for them. https://www.naturallifeenergy.com/alkaline-producing-mucus-reducing-nutrional-guide/ In addition to the acidic people are ingesting, many are not drinking enough clean filtered water, and they are not exercising and getting enough sunlight. Many people don't meditate either, they don't believe in it. So people are eating mostly acid, drinking poison such as coke or pepsi, monster "energy" drinks, etc and then they get sick and go to the "doctor" who prescribes a band aid big pharma pill that doesn't actually solve the problem but instead then disrupts the body's natural abilities to deal with illness. https://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm Many people don't believe it but basically most industries are now run by black magicians of various levels. They even brag about it with their hollywood movies. Even the word "Hollywood" is a play on the actual Holly tree and its wood that witches and sorcerers would make their wands out of to cast spells. The ignorant part of society who have not done their research think that witchcraft is a joke or that it is not real or that it went away long ago but that is incorrect and the truth is that the dark witches simply became very good at hiding themselves and their activities from the public. This video gives a basic explanation of what's going on behind the scenes. This ties into "Pizzagate", not sure if you have heard of it yet but you will soon learn that there is very dark bad stuff going on that most of the world "leaders" are involved in (blackmail via pedophilia). https://www.bitchute.com/video/iaR0epis0Sei/ This corona "virus" in my opinion is what is known to people who are awake and educated on such topics as a psyop. A psyop, short for psychological operation, is basically an event that plays on the emotions of the naive public thus causing behavioral change. The US Army's psyop division (37F) motto is persuade change influence. The US Army have been involved in conducting psyops on the public for decades as a means to further their agenda of imperialism and control over others. Same with the US armed forces such as the US Marines, Navy, and Air Force. (Who do you think is responsible for the chemtrails?) Most people don't believe this is possible, a psyop so large, because it would take millions of people to make it happen, and in fact millions of people are in on the psyop and agenda which is why it has gone on this long. Corporate mainstream media "news"/propaganda, ALL major networks are in on it, a large portion of the government in every country are in on it, the banks, and many other industries who benefit from it, not to mention the people involved, many of them are in one secret society or another such as freemasonry for example. The allopathic medical system, the people on the board of the AMA are in on the agenda. People in the US congress are in on it, maybe not all of them but a large portion of them. What is the agenda? Total control and reduction of the world population. How do they plan to achieve this? Via a vaccine that contains a microchip the size of a grain of rice that contains all the persons financial information. At this point if people begin to get this vaccine that contains the microchip it will be checkmate for humanity as then the world-wide financial system will be have complete control of the chipped persons financial abilities. Any person who tries to protest any agenda be it war, or whatever, they possibly risk having access to their bank account limited or in extreme cases completely blocked. Why are "they" doing this? Because they believe that they have the right to rule over the lesser genetic lineages. They believe that the Earth belongs to them, and they believe that humanity are using too many Earth resources too rapidly and thus humanity need to be reduced. I now refer you to the Georgia Guide stones. https://cloudedtitlesblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/the-georgia-guidestones-illuminati-ten-commandments.pdf Disregard this information at yourand your fellow human's peril as those of us who have been studying this for over ten years have been trying to tell people for years and few listened and now we are at this level of chaos because people laughed at us. Do the research, you'll see. You won't figure it out over night, it will take some time, but if you are dedicated to finding the truth then you will and it will set you free. Edited August 12, 2020 by Messenger 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooey Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 bamboo pipes and joint stems are awesome too. bamboo absorbs benzene so that's a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Messenger said: Hi Karol. This is not so easy to explain in few words so I will type this up real quick and hopefully you are receptive to read through it and check the information. A lot of people who have taken up vaping are now realizing that their lungs are destroyed and this is particularly due to the E-acetate additive that some flavors contain. I remember the vape bandwagon because I almost got on it back in 2009 or so. Vaping was the new thing that all the sheeple began touting as a much safer method than smoking the traditional way. I got a hold of one of the first vape pens with some cannabis oil and thankfully I didn't really like the way it made my lungs feel so I stopped and went back to smoking my cannabis out of a glass pipe, the purest way one can smoke, a glass pipe, water "bong", or from a stone pipe. Look into the dangers of E-acetate. Interesting. I never vaped at all , didn't like the look of it from the start , before the CV hoax started the latest health scare by the media was vapers and their lungs. There seem to be a lot less vapers now, I'm certainly not seeing the clouds of steam coming from people like say 3 years ago. Where did the vapers all go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seclorum Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) COVID UPDATE: 'Coincidences' point to a September showdown. We will have to stand firm against the MSM tidal wave of BS to stop legislating mandatory vaccines. BTW, how does one embed vids here folks? Edited August 12, 2020 by seclorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, seclorum said: COVID UPDATE: 'Coincidences' point to a September showdown. We will have to stand firm against the MSM tidal wave of BS to stop legislating mandatory vaccines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sy-BQPeYdc BTW, how does one embed vids here folks? Don't link the vid and it should embed itself afaik. We just have to say now... "No thanks bill, stick your vaccine, I have had the Russian vaccination already and having two is dangerous." Checkmate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seclorum Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 For those who assume the violence by Victorian police on an innocent woman was faked or staged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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