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2 hours ago, Nats and dogs said:

 

Sometimes you need to SHOW the people, because telling them is not enough.

  That is happening now: in order to further shake the people awake, they HAVE to go through the darkness. Nothing else works. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The darkest hour is just before dawn.

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

when are the 'we know the truth' people gonna learn that big group protest is never gonna end well?

 

the cops have

  • body armour
  • batons
  • chemical spray
  • water cannons
  • sound weapons
  • tear gas
  • numbers
  • horses
  • vehicles
  • legal access from all angles to the protest zone
  • training
  • strength
  • no ethics
  • no morals
  • pent up aggression
  • roid rage
  • too many bills not enough pay aggression

 

its the wrong tactic for this current problem

 

go back to 2000 and watch Alex Jones Police State series

 

Oh look how they care about people ready to kill them to protect them from Cockvid.

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6 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Oh look how they care about people ready to kill them to protect them from Cockvid.

 

Also, the bottom line is that these pigs, the world over,  are going to inflict the horrors of the future onto themselves and their own families.

You couldn't make it up.

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Big Brother Watch have put together this excellent and comprehensive report in response to the UK Government consultation on Covid Status Certificates (CSCs) and whether a two-tier segregated society can be justified. This included consulting Blackstone Chambers on the legal ramifications of such a scheme.

 

It is a long and detailed report so I will summarise the main points.

 

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/campaigns/stopvaccinepassports/#emailyourmp

 

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Access-Denied-Big-Brother-Watch.pdf

 

  • The report opens by expressing concerns about the review and whether it is a genuinely open inquiry especially given announcements by Ministers and "leaks", even before the consultation closed, suggesting that there will be a role for certification and mandated vaccination (e.g. for care home staff).
  • Consideration is then given to whether CSCs would reduce risk. Given the high vaccine uptake amongst the vulnerable groups combined with the reported efficacy of the injections (from the vaccine manufacturers), it is suggested that there is no need for CSCs.
  • There is unsufficient evidence as to whether vaccines reduce transmission so vaccine status is not a reliable indicator of coronavirus risk in public settings.
  • Compelling vaccination creates negative attitudes towards vaccination and undermines public trust including for wider public health measures
  • Concerns are raised about the practicalities of testing as to which types of tests will be used, who will administer them and timescales involved. Furthermore, test results are fraught with problems with both false positives and false negatives, and asymptomatic testing undermines the value of the tests. Given the unreliability of the tests (both LFT and PCR), healthy individuals could be unfairly excluded from public life and suffer severe consequences if wrongly required to quarantine.
  • Offering certificates on the basis of "immunity" could incentivise people to contract the virus which could create a risk of increased transmission.
  • Rather than opening up the economy, CSCs could result in businesses and sectors of the economy being shut down via unreliable test results. CSCs would also reinforce anxiety over the disease amongst the population, rather than confidence, and could expose businesses to legal claims.
  • CSCs would invite discrimination against certain groups less inclined towards, or less able to have, the vaccine including pregnant women, ethnic minorities, people with religious or philosophical beliefs, younger people and the disabled. Poor and marginalised groups could become further shut out of society.
  • The intrusion into our privacy and medical confidentiality would be unprecedented. Even if exemptions were allowed, this would be deeply intrusive too exposing such individuals to assumptions about their health status.
  • Bodily autonomy is a right enshrined in domestic law and, not since Victorian times, have vaccines been mandated. The Public Health Act 1984 specifically prohibits forced vaccinations. "It would be backwards and counter-productive for the UK to make the same mistakes of coercive Victorian medicine policies".
  • There is also considerable examination of the technology involved in implementing the scheme and the mechanics of how it will work - e.g. via apps and facial recognition. Facial recognition can be inaccurate particularly for women and "people of colour". And there is the danger that the certificates could become de facto identity cards and expanded in purpose over time.

The input from Blackstone Chambers (Annex) also makes very worthwhile reading including which ECHR article rights would be engaged via such a scheme along with common law considerations and rights set out via statute. But I would particularly like to highlight the point made querying who the CSCs are designed to protect as this hasn't been made clear by the Government. Would this be the vaccinated or the unvaccinated?

  • The vaccinated are already considered protected against serious illness or death and so are not in need of further safeguarding – even if they transmitted the virus to another vaccinated person, that person is also unlikely to become seriously ill or die. So if the scheme is to protect the vaccinated, how can a serious intrusion into people's rights be justified if the vaccinated are already protected by having had the vaccine?
  • Whereas, if the scheme is to protect the unvaccinated, most people in high risk categories have now been vaccinated. Those remaining in such groups who haven't been vaccinated, can make the choice to protect their own health rather than have it enforced via a CSC scheme preventing them and other unvaccinated individuals from accessing goods and services. Arrangements can be made for the unvaccinated in care homes to only be cared for by the vaccinated. Unvaccinated people in lower risk categories are unlikely to become ill and to die from the virus so do not require a CSC scheme to safeguard their health. Therefore such an intrusive scheme cannot be justified either for the unvaccinated where less intrusive measures may equally reduce risk.
  • The risk of new "variants" developing are already mitigated by high vaccine uptake and the risk posed by variants is not immediate.

Big Brother Watch therefore conclude that there is no justification for such a scheme at the expense of unprecedented intrusion into our rights and freedoms.

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19 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

The realest one on yt

 

Watch the whole vid, the last bar is fucking glorious

 

 

 

fell off my chair n got burnt with a smoke lmao

"who are they talking too" - that vid killed me T.T
thanks for the share lol

 

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18 hours ago, Shy Talk said:

 

People are crediting them with too much integrity. They've had plenty of evidence for months of this being a scam. It's only a couple of weeks since Boris said the roadmap was irreversible, yet just a few hours ago he warned of the dreamt up  'French wave' arriving (basically preparing the plebs to be disappointed). People have to get it out of their minds sharpish that a white knight will emerge from the inside, especially govt. Ain't going to happen.

 

This. I've posted similar before but it has to repeated over and over - No more messiahs, no more saviours, no more Trumps, no more ancient Mayan prophecies and no more cavalry on the horizon coming to save us.

 

We have to do this ourselves. It's time to grow up and take responsibility.

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18 hours ago, Mr H said:

The thing is folks usually don't resort to riots etc. but if they do this vaccine passport thing, it means that a lot of people no longer have anything to lose, because they can't go to work, they can't go out and socialize - so what on earth does this government expect is going to happen. Will make Bristol look like Satsung!

 

With respect I disagree, most people still have plenty to lose even without a job such as :

 

A comfortable home

Money in the bank

Nice food and drink to enjoy

Access to various forms of entertainment either online or through traditional TV

and

The hope that things are going to get better by themselves

 

They're gonna have to lose or be threatened with the loss of the above before they get to the point of having nothing to lose especially the last point, it still hasn't dawned on the majority that face masks, social distancing and lockdowns are meant to permanent not temporary.

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You Keep taking the toxic pretentious vaccine... "govt" keep telling you that you need more and  blame the people not taking it as an excuse to roll out more measures and then govt keep pushing more tests that don't test for any virus but get more pos results

 

People get ill from the jab...blame the people who didnt take the jab

 

send the non jabbers to camps

 

rip and smash this up before they get our kids

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, zArk said:

 

its the wrong tactic for this current problem

 

go back to 2000 and watch Alex Jones Police State series

 

What is the correct tactics...? 

 

Wanna give us an idea what the Police State Series establishes..

BC 

 

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16 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

What is the correct tactics...? 

 

Wanna give us an idea what the Police State Series establishes..

BC 

 

 

sorry thats my bad phrasing...

 

Police state series shows the militarisation of the police, training, tactics, equipment

 

as for my opinion on tactics: non centralised non protest action should be encouraged i.e going to shops wear a 'shopping t-shirt' that has a slogan on.  going on school run .. wear a 'school run t-shirt'

i really dont think that 'the message' needs to get out as its already done... whats needed is being visible

 

 

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1 hour ago, perpetual said:

I was thinking "What a clownworld....." BAM.... found a new member with that name.... lol Synchronisity is fast and furious these days.

 

Anyhoo....more clownworld news.

 

Boris Johnson says two fully vaccinated people cannot meet indoors

 

 

well we already knew this.

 

Watch this one.... He tightens his noose to subliminally tell us that his noose is being tightened and if he doesn't do as his master say his life is in danger. OR he is tightening his own. Either way, it's a clownworld.

 

^ Even Bojo is emphasising it today.

 

OMG when are the idiots going to wake up,two people who have been vaccinated cant meet indoors it just fucking obvious.

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17 hours ago, Outsider said:

Had the misfortune to watch the BBC news at lunchtime, really quite amazing that it doesn't seem to feature conventional news stories anymore. It seems totally dedicated to 'agendas' such as sexism in schools, racism...even the new apocalyptic problem of people dropping litter in parks...I can solve that one easily...put more bins in parks for people to use. Maybe a good idea to  open up all the closed public toilets again so people don't have to urinate in public.  

 

It's even happening in 'entertainment' on the mainstream media - films, dramas, even talent shows over the last 3 or 4 years are going full steam ahead with the pushing of various agendas. While the MSM has always been controlled it used to be that entertainment really was just entertainment but like everything in mainstream culture it's now become politicised.

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33 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

OMG when are the idiots going to wake up,two people who have been vaccinated cant meet indoors it just fucking obvious.

It couldn't be plainer. Well, a fat lot of use that is then -eh?

The vax can kill you. It can make you ill in varying degrees, but it CANNOT protect you!

Total nuts.

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Went to what's left of the local shops with the wife earlier.

Saw three stickers (two on lamposts and one on an empty shop window)

Simply said "Covid was made for the vaccine, not the other way around"

Pleasing..........It should plant a few seeds into subconscious minds.

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4 hours ago, zArk said:

 

when are the 'we know the truth' people gonna learn that big group protest is never gonna end well?

 

the cops have

  • body armour
  • batons
  • chemical spray
  • water cannons
  • sound weapons
  • tear gas
  • numbers
  • horses
  • vehicles
  • legal access from all angles to the protest zone
  • training
  • strength
  • no ethics
  • no morals
  • pent up aggression
  • roid rage
  • too many bills not enough pay aggression

 

its the wrong tactic for this current problem

 

go back to 2000 and watch Alex Jones Police State series

 

You know I agree but was nice to see people getting stuck in and not just filming

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2 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

Went to what's left of the local shops with the wife earlier.

Saw three stickers (two on lamposts and one on an empty shop window)

Simply said "Covid was made for the vaccine, not the other way around"

Pleasing..........It should plant a few seeds into subconscious minds.

Or just strengthen the cognitive dissonance in these arseholes. They'd probably be triggered by reading such contemptuous material. So, I think mass scissor kicks to the wind pipes should be mandated for these dick heads. That should stop anything like this shit ever happening again. 👍

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3 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Or just strengthen the cognitive dissonance in these arseholes. They'd probably be triggered by reading such contemptuous material. So, I think mass scissor kicks to the wind pipes should be mandated for these dick heads. That should stop anything like this shit ever happening again. 👍

Unfortunately I agree. Ziggy is correct though the only way to get through to the majority of the meat goblems is through the subconscious. I think the quote though would be "too out there" for the majority. Although it may spark a thought in the few semi sentient ones. 

 

If it's the white rose I am on their telegram channel. They mean well and I wish them success. It did cheer me up seeing their stickers posted around here. I think most of them have been ripped off now though. 

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