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1 minute ago, Roscommon said:

 


Part of me thinks that because we have members of our species who are so easily manipulated in this way (both now and throughout our history) that it might actually be too dangerous for the universe to allow us to continue to exist.


Then another part of me thinks that we are a magical wonderful species who could develop peacefully and harmoniously if we were just left alone to our own devices.

 

I'd like to believe that we would do better if we evolved organically, socially and mentally but there will always be psycho's, sociopaths and narcissists that will pop up to try and shit on things. What's playing out now is a part of the human condition. The struggle between objective reality and our mentally created reality.  We are a magical species (consciously), it's the fact that we are magical that has allowed us to slip into this turmoil...plus the fact that humans have been eating, drinking, inhaling, injecting and watching shite for decades..🤪 and are generally fucking stupid.

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4 minutes ago, Roscommon said:

 

There must be something more to it though?


I'm guessing hypnosis?

Psychological abuse like we have had for the last year, they have been using it on councils and politicians since about 2010.

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and the constant divide and rule tactics creating more  "ists"  It has arrived at a stage where some are scared to speak for fear of offending someone

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4 hours ago, shadowmoon said:

Lol.

 

He shouldn't have had that vax, they lied & told him it was saline..

Worth thinking about, can any of them really trust each other? Imagine those in charge and all those celebs believe they have been given a safe shot but they were tricked and had the real thing. Imagine the headlines as world leaders start dropping like flies for real. They after all heavily relied on world leaders catching covid 19 to prop up the hoax in the early days.

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5 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Worth thinking about, can any of them really trust each other? Imagine those in charge and all those celebs believe they have been given a safe shot but they were tricked and had the real thing. Imagine the headlines as world leaders start dropping like flies for real. They after all heavily relied on world leaders catching covid 19 to prop up the hoax in the early days.

https://youtu.be/dBW5AesgXC8

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7 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Worth thinking about, can any of them really trust each other? Imagine those in charge and all those celebs believe they have been given a safe shot but they were tricked and had the real thing. Imagine the headlines as world leaders start dropping like flies for real. They after all heavily relied on world leaders catching covid 19 to prop up the hoax in the early days.

Hancock wanted be PM.. so you never know.

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20 minutes ago, gibby said:

and extreme peer pressure  thats why I see some cracking

 

People are crediting them with too much integrity. They've had plenty of evidence for months of this being a scam. It's only a couple of weeks since Boris said the roadmap was irreversible, yet just a few hours ago he warned of the dreamt up  'French wave' arriving (basically preparing the plebs to be disappointed). People have to get it out of their minds sharpish that a white knight will emerge from the inside, especially govt. Ain't going to happen.

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4 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

 

People are crediting them with too much integrity. They've had plenty of evidence for months of this being a scam. It's only a couple of weeks since Boris said the roadmap was irreversible, yet just a few hours ago he warned of the dreamt up  'French wave' arriving (basically preparing the plebs to be disappointed). People have to get it out of their minds sharpish that a white knight will emerge from the inside, especially govt. Ain't going to happen.

The thing is folks usually don't resort to riots etc. but if they do this vaccine passport thing, it means that a lot of people no longer have anything to lose, because they can't go to work, they can't go out and socialize - so what on earth does this government expect is going to happen. Will make Bristol look like Satsung!

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2 minutes ago, Mr H said:

The thing is folks usually don't resort to riots etc. but if they do this vaccine passport thing, it means that a lot of people no longer have anything to lose, because they can't go to work, they can't go out and socialize - so what on earth does this government expect is going to happen. Will make Bristol look like Satsung!

 

Nothing to lose.

Good point.

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The "govt"  will introduce measures incremently as they have done all long. Thats how the got away with it so far

 

just a little more then you will be free... bait can never be reached

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The Belgium Court’s Covid ruling, in practice, gives the government a month to find a proper legal basis for its measures, which include curfews, restaurant closures and limits on gatherings.

 

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The rehabilitation was the first great victory for the League's members; its memory encouraged them in their battles in the following decades-hence they vigilantly preserved it. Dreyfus remained a member until his death, and recognized its contribution.

 

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1 minute ago, Mr H said:

The thing is folks usually don't resort to riots etc. but if they do this vaccine passport thing, it means that a lot of people no longer have anything to lose, because they can't go to work, they can't go out and socialize - so what on earth does this government expect is going to happen. Will make Bristol look like Satsung!

 

Somebody already mentioned the poll tax riots. The poll tax was small potatoes compared to this but there isn't any suggestion we're going to get anything like the same pushback. Again, already mentioned - almost certainly due to the wimping down of men. They don't have anything like the same fight or sense of proper injustice they had a couple of generations ago 

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Just now, Shy Talk said:

 

Somebody already mentioned the poll tax riots. The poll tax was small potatoes compared to this but there isn't any suggestion we're going to get anything like the same pushback. Again, already mentioned - almost certainly due to the wimping down of men. They don't have anything like the same fight or sense of proper injustice they had a couple of generations ago 

I think we don't know properly because we've not been allowed to come together and discuss.

 

i never would have thought for example that Bristol would have gone the way it did. And this is a 100 x more serious, banning people from working, banning freedom of movement, banning socializing with humans - so I would not rule anything out.... we're talking fundamental human activities here..........waaaaayyy over the line

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ie  look around.....how many people do you see in face nappies that dont want to wear them? I was in a shop the other day (unmasked as usual. The woman behined counter was masked up. Her face was blood red and she clearly looked in distress. She said she couldnt breathe properly. I said take it off. She said no, Ill lose my job !!  I said is a job here worth being ill for. Tell the shop owners you are exempt. She was clearly scared

 

 

 

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Even that plonker Socialist Starmer recognized that the passports ain't gonna wash with folks, 

 

I do seriously wonder what is going on with the government. Something is seriously very very wrong.......

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25 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

Hancock wanted be PM.. so you never know.

I don't think any of them are 'safe' they all know too much and are too heavily implicated. If a one world government is the ultimate aim our current leaders could be surplus to requirements?

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14 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

 

Somebody already mentioned the poll tax riots. The poll tax was small potatoes compared to this but there isn't any suggestion we're going to get anything like the same pushback. Again, already mentioned - almost certainly due to the wimping down of men. They don't have anything like the same fight or sense of proper injustice they had a couple of generations ago 

Some things are worth fighting for, such as jobs, livelihoods and communities, like during the 1984/85 miner's strike, when Leon Brittan sent in his henchmen on horseback. Some things never change!

 

 

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1 minute ago, Mr H said:

Even that plonker Socialist Starmer recognized that the passports ain't gonna wash with folks, 

 

I do seriously wonder what is going on with the government. Something is seriously very very wrong.......

They're on there last legs, they have the same mindset as the masses... compliance. I think they believe if they go along with this great reset they will be rewarded, perhaps they will be chucked under the bus instead. 

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18 minutes ago, Mr H said:

I think we don't know properly because we've not been allowed to come together and discuss.

 

i never would have thought for example that Bristol would have gone the way it did. And this is a 100 x more serious, banning people from working, banning freedom of movement, banning socializing with humans - so I would not rule anything out.... we're talking fundamental human activities here..........waaaaayyy over the line

 

Fair enough. I can only go on what I see in my circle. A couple of days ago I met a few friends I hadn't seen since the last lockdown kicked in. All covid believers. I made a point of asking whether they'd become more sceptical about it since we last met, given what I'd warned them was coming true. Not at all. In fact one said 'more and more people now know someone who has died of covid, so it's more real'. 

 

I now have 90% less friends than a year ago!

 

Hopefully your friends are made of stronger stuff.

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34 minutes ago, Roscommon said:


You have to wonder what goes through those peoples heads?


I mean do they actually believe that what they are doing is for the common good. Or do you think it's more a case of fuck it we're all fucked anyway, and I might as well get a decent pay check out of it before human civilization as we know it sinks beneath the waves.


Part of me thinks that because we have members of our species who are so easily manipulated in this way (both now and throughout our history) that it might actually be too dangerous for the universe to allow us to continue to exist.


Then another part of me thinks that we are a magical wonderful species who could develop peacefully and harmoniously if we were just left alone to our own devices.

 

Let them get their decent pay checks, they cant take it with them. The next existence does not give a shit how big your house was while you were here. They have no interest in what foreign holidays you had, the size of your yacht, how fast your car was. Human civilization will never sink beneath the waves, not entirely. There will always be some thing on this planet even if it is a human reset and back to just a handful of people. We are a magical, wonderful species. We can live in harmony with each other and create a utopia. Sadly a lot of knowledge as D.I has said many times has been stolen and kept from us to get us to obey. I once considered my self an atheist, then about forty years ago a chance meeting with a healer set me on the road to explore spiritualism. There is far more to life than this existence. Too many people allow their selves to be manipulated and controlled because all they are aware of is this physical existence, due to the spiritual knowledge being taken from us. Divide and rule. Kill the non believers, my religion is the right one not yours so you are wrong and must die. You live on that side of the fence and speak a different language to me, therefore you must die. We are taught from a very early age do as you are told. The second world war for instance would never have happened if the majority of German people had said "Fuck off Adolf, we are not doing that". The human race really does need a mass awakening to end the tyranny of authority the world over. Unfortunately I cant see that happening any time soon. The vast majority of Russian, Chinese or North Korean people are no threat to the rest of the world what so ever. I should imagine that the vast majority of military personnel have no desire to be on a battle field. The only perceived threat comes from the few in positions of power. They are the ones who will be no where near a battle field with a gun in their hands. Heard a bit on the radio recently. A question posed by Martin Lewis the money saving expert. The question was "What advice would you give to your 18 year old self if you could go back in time". My advice to me would be Live an alternative life style and do not get caught up in the system. Unfortunately I do not think my 18 year old self would have understood any of that.

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