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Here we go, New Zealand. Ominous tones have started to be drip fed out to the public.

 

Employers can keep staff registers to track Covid-19 vaccinations

 

 

Employers are allowed to keep a register of staff members who have or have not been vaccinated against Covid-19, employment lawyer Ros Webby says.

 

Border and health workers received their first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccination this month, and from July the vaccine will be rolled out to the remaining 2 million people aged above 16 years.

 

Webby, who is a partner at Dundas Street Employment Lawyers, said vaccinations could not be made mandatory for existing staff unless there was a law change – and that was highly unlikely.

 

But employers could keep a register of who has and has not been vaccinated if this was necessary to the job and there were clear health and safety concerns, Webby said.

 

READ MORE:
* ‘No Covid-19 jab, no job’ clause considered for new public sector workers
* Covid-19: South Auckland DHB’s vaccination conundrum
* Employers can't force staff to get vaccinated against Covid-19

 

The Government has also signalled that a vaccine passport will be essential for travel into and out of the country.

If workers had consented to telling their employers they had been vaccinated, the Ministry of Health would inform employers, according to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE)

 

But if workers were asked but refused to disclose their vaccination status, employers could assume the workers were unvaccinated, MBIE said. The employer still had to inform workers of its assumption.

Any collection of personal information would be governed by the Privacy Act.

The Government has also encouraged employers to offer paid work time for workers to get vaccinated.

Webby said employers could also ask prospective workers if they had been vaccinated during the hiring process.

Dundas Street Employment Lawyers partner Ros Webby says vaccinations cannot be made mandatory for existing staff.
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Dundas Street Employment Lawyers partner Ros Webby says vaccinations cannot be made mandatory for existing staff.

But she said this could expose the company to discrimination claims under the Human Rights Act if the candidate said no and was not hired.

“If the reason relates to religious or ethical belief, or to disability, for instance, and the person was the best candidate, refusing to employ on that basis could leave an employer facing uncomfortable and business-damaging claims of discrimination,” Webby said.

Lying about being vaccinated could also result in misconduct allegations later on in the employment.

From July about 2 million people aged over 16 years will be eligible to receive the Covid-19 vaccine.
AP
From July about 2 million people aged over 16 years will be eligible to receive the Covid-19 vaccine.

If frontline workers refused to get immunised, the employer had a duty to mitigate the risk to the worker and others around them by deploying them to another role that had less contact with vulnerable people, rather than sacking them, she said.

 

But staff could not be demoted, removed from usual duties, or have their agreed pay changed, without mutual agreement.

Webby said doing so unilaterally would raise some significant and problematic issues, even within workforces with obvious health and safety concerns.

“Health and safety obligations are all about taking reasonably practicable steps to ensure it within workplaces,” she said.

 

 

[I note this 'employment lawyer' and/or the article, makes no real mention of the definition of which employers can keep this record. The article implies, of course, its the border workers and people who are in settings where that catch-all 'health and safety' is deemed appropriate.]

[Personal info held under the Privacy Act.... not doing a good job THIS WEEKEND

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/124680730/heath-board-has-contacted-50-people-affected-by-software-privacy-breach

 

About 50 people affected by a software error that allowed patients’ private information to be seen in the Covid-19 vaccination appointment booking system have been contacted by the Canterbury District Health Board (CDHB).

The error meant the details of 714 individuals who had registered were potentially able to be viewed.

The details included name, gender and age

 

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‘No Covid-19 jab, no job’ clause considered for new public sector workers

 

As the Government reveals its plans to roll out the Covid-19 vaccine to Kiwis, the public sector has set out guidelines for the sensitive issue of how to deal with those who don't want to get vaccinated.

 

New public sector employees on the frontlines of New Zealand’s Covid-19 response could have a vaccination requirement inserted into their contracts, according to new government advice.

 

An employment lawyer says ‘no jab, no job’ clauses could become more common for new hires in both the public and private sectors as employers seek to secure their workplaces for a world of open borders.

 

However, there are concerns about vaccine scepticism or hesitancy amongst some New Zealanders, with public polling released by the Ministry of Health suggesting nearly a quarter of Kiwis would not take a Covid vaccine if offered.

 

 

Agencies should also ask existing staff to provide information on whether or not they have been vaccinated, while “appropriate leaders” within the public sector should be vaccinated early in the programme to act as role models.

 

Staff who do not receive a vaccination for any reason should be subject to a health and safety assessment to determine whether their jobs can be done safely, the document says. If not, they could be deployed to a different role within the same agency or a different organisation, or placed on paid special leave “for a reasonable time” following legal advice

 

[Setting the stage, priming the public]

 

 

Employers would still need to be mindful of broader obligations under the Human Rights Act to protect freedom of religion or ethical beliefs, while the public service was also subject to the Bill of Rights Act which included the freedom to reject medical treatmentsubject to justified limitations”.

 

Scahill said the Public Service Commission’s guidelines appeared to strongly encourage, rather than mandate, Covid vaccinations, and it had an obligation to consider health and safety requirements.

However, he expected there would likely be litigation at some point between an employee and their employer, given the sizeable minority of the public which had expressed scepticism or hesitancy about the vaccine in polling.

 

“Vaccination is like a collective responsibility, we know that it’ll work best when as many of us as possible do it.”

 

While there was an expectation that public servants would get vaccinated, agencies were encouraged to use “common sense and cooperation”, the spokesman said.

 

[yeah, just a slight expectation to do their part in the 'collective responsibility'. No one will be publicly called out in the office or 'accidently' cc/bcc in and ostracized for not pulling their jabbed weight.]

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7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Is it 1980's South Africa? 

Is it 2021 Israel?

 

No, its that criminal Fishlips Sturgeons', Scotland 🙁

 

 

 

Vaccination segregation, but both parties are still required to anti-social-distance and wear masks!

 

Scotland's lost the plot...

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13 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Here we go, New Zealand. Ominous tones have started to be drip fed out to the public.

 

Employers can keep staff registers to track Covid-19 vaccinations

 

 

Employers are allowed to keep a register of staff members who have or have not been vaccinated against Covid-19, employment lawyer Ros Webby says.

 

Border and health workers received their first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccination this month, and from July the vaccine will be rolled out to the remaining 2 million people aged above 16 years.

 

Webby, who is a partner at Dundas Street Employment Lawyers, said vaccinations could not be made mandatory for existing staff unless there was a law change – and that was highly unlikely.

 

But employers could keep a register of who has and has not been vaccinated if this was necessary to the job and there were clear health and safety concerns, Webby said.

 

READ MORE:
* ‘No Covid-19 jab, no job’ clause considered for new public sector workers
* Covid-19: South Auckland DHB’s vaccination conundrum
* Employers can't force staff to get vaccinated against Covid-19

 

The Government has also signalled that a vaccine passport will be essential for travel into and out of the country.

If workers had consented to telling their employers they had been vaccinated, the Ministry of Health would inform employers, according to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE)

 

But if workers were asked but refused to disclose their vaccination status, employers could assume the workers were unvaccinated, MBIE said. The employer still had to inform workers of its assumption.

Any collection of personal information would be governed by the Privacy Act.

The Government has also encouraged employers to offer paid work time for workers to get vaccinated.

Webby said employers could also ask prospective workers if they had been vaccinated during the hiring process.

Dundas Street Employment Lawyers partner Ros Webby says vaccinations cannot be made mandatory for existing staff.
SUPPLIED
Dundas Street Employment Lawyers partner Ros Webby says vaccinations cannot be made mandatory for existing staff.

But she said this could expose the company to discrimination claims under the Human Rights Act if the candidate said no and was not hired.

“If the reason relates to religious or ethical belief, or to disability, for instance, and the person was the best candidate, refusing to employ on that basis could leave an employer facing uncomfortable and business-damaging claims of discrimination,” Webby said.

Lying about being vaccinated could also result in misconduct allegations later on in the employment.

From July about 2 million people aged over 16 years will be eligible to receive the Covid-19 vaccine.
AP
From July about 2 million people aged over 16 years will be eligible to receive the Covid-19 vaccine.

If frontline workers refused to get immunised, the employer had a duty to mitigate the risk to the worker and others around them by deploying them to another role that had less contact with vulnerable people, rather than sacking them, she said.

 

But staff could not be demoted, removed from usual duties, or have their agreed pay changed, without mutual agreement.

Webby said doing so unilaterally would raise some significant and problematic issues, even within workforces with obvious health and safety concerns.

“Health and safety obligations are all about taking reasonably practicable steps to ensure it within workplaces,” she said.

 

 

[I note this 'employment lawyer' and/or the article, makes no real mention of the definition of which employers can keep this record. The article implies, of course, its the border workers and people who are in settings where that catch-all 'health and safety' is deemed appropriate.]

[Personal info held under the Privacy Act.... not doing a good job THIS WEEKEND

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/124680730/heath-board-has-contacted-50-people-affected-by-software-privacy-breach

 

About 50 people affected by a software error that allowed patients’ private information to be seen in the Covid-19 vaccination appointment booking system have been contacted by the Canterbury District Health Board (CDHB).

The error meant the details of 714 individuals who had registered were potentially able to be viewed.

The details included name, gender and age

 

**************************************************

 

‘No Covid-19 jab, no job’ clause considered for new public sector workers

 

As the Government reveals its plans to roll out the Covid-19 vaccine to Kiwis, the public sector has set out guidelines for the sensitive issue of how to deal with those who don't want to get vaccinated.

 

New public sector employees on the frontlines of New Zealand’s Covid-19 response could have a vaccination requirement inserted into their contracts, according to new government advice.

 

An employment lawyer says ‘no jab, no job’ clauses could become more common for new hires in both the public and private sectors as employers seek to secure their workplaces for a world of open borders.

 

However, there are concerns about vaccine scepticism or hesitancy amongst some New Zealanders, with public polling released by the Ministry of Health suggesting nearly a quarter of Kiwis would not take a Covid vaccine if offered.

 

 

Agencies should also ask existing staff to provide information on whether or not they have been vaccinated, while “appropriate leaders” within the public sector should be vaccinated early in the programme to act as role models.

 

Staff who do not receive a vaccination for any reason should be subject to a health and safety assessment to determine whether their jobs can be done safely, the document says. If not, they could be deployed to a different role within the same agency or a different organisation, or placed on paid special leave “for a reasonable time” following legal advice

 

[Setting the stage, priming the public]

 

 

Employers would still need to be mindful of broader obligations under the Human Rights Act to protect freedom of religion or ethical beliefs, while the public service was also subject to the Bill of Rights Act which included the freedom to reject medical treatmentsubject to justified limitations”.

 

Scahill said the Public Service Commission’s guidelines appeared to strongly encourage, rather than mandate, Covid vaccinations, and it had an obligation to consider health and safety requirements.

However, he expected there would likely be litigation at some point between an employee and their employer, given the sizeable minority of the public which had expressed scepticism or hesitancy about the vaccine in polling.

 

“Vaccination is like a collective responsibility, we know that it’ll work best when as many of us as possible do it.”

 

While there was an expectation that public servants would get vaccinated, agencies were encouraged to use “common sense and cooperation”, the spokesman said.

 

[yeah, just a slight expectation to do their part in the 'collective responsibility'. No one will be publicly called out in the office or 'accidently' cc/bcc in and ostracized for not pulling their jabbed weight.]

 

"If frontline workers refused to get immunised, the employer had a duty to mitigate the risk to the worker and others around them by deploying them to another role that had less contact with vulnerable people, rather than sacking them."

 

But if everyone else is vaccinated then they cease to be vulnerable, no?

 

“Vaccination is like a collective responsibility, we know that it’ll work best when as many of us as possible do it.”

 

How do you know this, it's efficacy is unknown and it hasn't completed Phase III trials?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

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https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/29/we-will-have-to-choose-our-apocalypse-the-cost-of-freedom-after-the-pandemic

 

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Incitement to hatred is a criminal offence. What divided us was public school not covid. Siblings segregated by age and kids separated from the parents. 

 

"Zoom held us together" 🤣🤣

Conspiracy theories in my family is called CONVERSATION.

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THIS JUST IN - EXPERTS WARN

 

Don't hug family or friends at permitted gatherings, expert warns

 

Hugging loved ones is still off the cards despite England’s lockdown easing, as it could potentially trigger Covid-19 to become resistant to vaccines, an expert has warned.

 

 

Molecular virology Professor Jonathan Ball, at Nottingham University,

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has warned hugging a loved one poses too much risk of spreading coronavirus, even if they've had a jab, as it could make Covid become resistant to vaccines.

 

"There's still a lot of virus out there and what we don’t want to happen is for somebody to become infected who's partially immune because what can happen is that can encourage the evolutionary emergence of virus variants that are possibly resistant to the vaccine," he told LBC News.

 

"And they may be tempted to hug the grandchildren or hug the family members but it’s incredibly important that they don’t do that.

 

"I don’t want to be a doom merchant but the more risks we take the more chance we have of the virus coming back and biting us."

 

However, Prof Ball warned that "doesn’t mean it can’t spread", and with a hug naturally bringing people physically together, it's safer to keep the two-metre distance for now.

 

If people are not yet fully immunised, he said it is important "they don't take undue risks because they could become infected and that could lead to the generation of viruses that are less susceptible to those vaccines that we're going to rely on so much in the future".

 

Dr Julian Tang, Honorary Associate Professor/Clinical Virologist at the University of Leicester, noted that 30 million people still haven’t had a single dose.

"With another (roughly) 5 million who have natural immunity from natural infection, there is still a large number of the under 50s still susceptible to the virus - more than enough to sustain a new outbreak, as we are still seeing 5000-6000 new Covid-19 cases a day," Dr Tan said.

"If we can wait a bit longer until we vaccinate more of the younger people to suppress the amount of circulating virus more completely, hugging will become safer later on this year."

The number of people fully immunised will be the key indicator to when hugging loved ones becomes safe again.

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/lockdown-easing-hugging-family-friends/

 

There are some serious Dark Forces psychically attacking the British people. My heart breaks again for my Motherland.💔

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7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Another jab of polyethylene glycol-laced nanoparticle covered synthetic mRNA compound with your tea, Nora?

 

 

Nadhim Zahawi told The Telegraph that ministers are expecting up to eight vaccines to be available by the autumn

 

 

It's so safe, this ghoul has to wear a visor to hold the fucking vial!

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2 hours ago, skitzorat said:

THIS JUST IN - EXPERTS WARN

 

Don't hug family or friends at permitted gatherings, expert warns

 

Hugging loved ones is still off the cards despite England’s lockdown easing, as it could potentially trigger Covid-19 to become resistant to vaccines, an expert has warned.

 

 

Molecular virology Professor Jonathan Ball, at Nottingham University,

image.jpeg.f783cd1d47f49491c3886d2ae3f16622.jpeg

has warned hugging a loved one poses too much risk of spreading coronavirus, even if they've had a jab, as it could make Covid become resistant to vaccines.

 

"There's still a lot of virus out there and what we don’t want to happen is for somebody to become infected who's partially immune because what can happen is that can encourage the evolutionary emergence of virus variants that are possibly resistant to the vaccine," he told LBC News.

 

"And they may be tempted to hug the grandchildren or hug the family members but it’s incredibly important that they don’t do that.

 

"I don’t want to be a doom merchant but the more risks we take the more chance we have of the virus coming back and biting us."

 

However, Prof Ball warned that "doesn’t mean it can’t spread", and with a hug naturally bringing people physically together, it's safer to keep the two-metre distance for now.

 

If people are not yet fully immunised, he said it is important "they don't take undue risks because they could become infected and that could lead to the generation of viruses that are less susceptible to those vaccines that we're going to rely on so much in the future".

 

Dr Julian Tang, Honorary Associate Professor/Clinical Virologist at the University of Leicester, noted that 30 million people still haven’t had a single dose.

"With another (roughly) 5 million who have natural immunity from natural infection, there is still a large number of the under 50s still susceptible to the virus - more than enough to sustain a new outbreak, as we are still seeing 5000-6000 new Covid-19 cases a day," Dr Tan said.

"If we can wait a bit longer until we vaccinate more of the younger people to suppress the amount of circulating virus more completely, hugging will become safer later on this year."

The number of people fully immunised will be the key indicator to when hugging loved ones becomes safe again.

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/lockdown-easing-hugging-family-friends/

 

There are some serious Dark Forces psychically attacking the British people. My heart breaks again for my Motherland.💔

Good fucking job you psychopathic prick  "oh well"

 

..with people outside their household/bubble.....so not granny dying of a broken heart.

 

 "And they may be tempted to hug the grandchildren or hug the family members but it’s incredibly important that they don’t do that."

 

How many people have taken this "advice" seriously at this stage in the game, anyway? I wouldn't

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7 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

(3)33, (1)66.....on and on and on.

 

But still, the VACCINE IS SAFE. It's your civic duty to have it, for goodness sake. 

"Still, it's all for the good of the country I suppose" - a quote from Monty Python's Live Organ Transplants.

 

If you want a real commentary from the mass media on what's going on, go to The Simpsons, Family Guy.. or Monty Python.. and ignore the lying MSM news.. especially the BBC.. which has been a department of state since its foundation.

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9 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Good fucking job you psychopathic prick  "oh well"

 

..with people outside their household/bubble.....so not granny dying of a broken heart.

 

 "And they may be tempted to hug the grandchildren or hug the family members but it’s incredibly important that they don’t do that."

 

How many people have taken this "advice" seriously at this stage in the game, anyway? I wouldn't

 

I agree, but their advice is incredibly revealing, indicating a reset world where human contact, affection and spirituality in general are things of the past. Same can be said with regard to closing down little country churches in remote areas as potential Covid hotspots.

 

Even believers should realise that that's ludicrous, but it does give an inkling of the future our unelected masters are planning .

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2 hours ago, pete675 said:

 

I agree, but their advice is incredibly revealing, indicating a reset world where human contact, affection and spirituality in general are things of the past. Same can be said with regard to closing down little country churches in remote areas as potential Covid hotspots.

 

Even believers should realise that that's ludicrous, but it does give an inkling of the future our unelected masters are planning .

And what happens to the human bodies immune system/overall health without love and physical affection? I'm thinking of those Romanian orphans from the 90s, but maybe they're medical misinformation and a dangerous conspiracy theory.

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On 3/26/2021 at 9:21 PM, Mr Chinnery said:

 

 

Oh poor little things, they want paid leave so they can get 'jabbed'.

Pfft! If they are ill for more than 4 days they can get SSP like so many of their constituents. Or if they really want to know how it affects "the people" they can get nothing like their constituents who are self-employed or on zero hours contracts. It almost makes you want to support the socialist policy of paying MPs the average wage (and I think it should be the mode, not the median) of their constituents. 

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9 hours ago, Matistuta said:

A free press would be questioning why Michie, a behavioural psychologist, is giving advice on infectious diseases, not to mention raising concerns about a member of the Communist Party promoting authoritarian policies.

Yes, she's key on the SAGE team of commie shills

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Some Remainers are hilarious (in a tragic way). Only a year ago they said you can't trust BoJo et al. because they're involved in a 'Brexit' conspiracy and you can't believe a word they say. Now those very same Remainers are hanging on BoJo's every word, believing everything he says. 

 

But in reality, what's more damaging to society and people? Leaving the EU or locking down society for a seasonal virus with an IFR of approx. 0.2%? 

 

Double-think is alive and strong in the world. 

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On 3/27/2021 at 8:02 AM, Velma said:

I could have ‘covid’ right now, according to Hancock, but don’t know it. So, that’s fine by me, since I feel perfectly healthy. However, they claim you can transmit it to the “vulnerable groups” who will die and you will be a killer. But, these people are all vaccinated now, so my asymptomatic transmissible covid, will affect no one, except me and it doesn’t.

Well, no, a study of nearly 10 million people whose contract were tracked (published in Nature) shows that asymptomatic transfer doesn't happen with the natural illness. So, no, you couldn't pass it on, but the govt ignores that study as it doesn't fit the narrative. However, no similar study has been done for the vaccinated who can still catch and spread the virus. So they are actually a greater threat to you than you are to them - their symptoms are suppressed so they might not "really" be asymptomatic- and they are all running around passing the virus on to others.

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World leaders call for a pandemic peace treaty among nations to respond to future contagions in global lock-step.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/letter-in-full-world-leaders-including-boris-johnson-call-for-international-pandemic-treaty/ar-BB1f77Ek

 

“Pandemic preparedness needs global leadership"

 

“There will be other pandemics and other major health emergencies."

 

“No single government or multilateral agency can address this threat alone. The question is not if, but when."

 

“Together, we must be better prepared to predict, prevent, detect, assess and effectively respond to pandemics in a highly co-ordinated fashion."

 

“To that end, we believe that nations should work together towards a new international treaty for pandemic preparedness and response."

 

“Such a renewed collective commitment would be a milestone in stepping up pandemic preparedness at the highest political level."

 

“It would be rooted in the constitution of the World Health Organisation, drawing in other relevant organisations key to this endeavour, in support of the principle of health for all."

 

“Existing global health instruments, especially the International Health Regulations, would underpin such a treaty, ensuring a firm and tested foundation on which we can build and improve."

 

“The main goal of this treaty would be to foster an all-of-government and all-of-society approach, strengthening national, regional and global capacities and resilience to future pandemics."

 

“This includes greatly enhancing international co-operation to improve, for example, alert systems, data-sharing, research, and local, regional and global production and distribution of medical and public health counter measures, such as vaccines, medicines, diagnostics and personal protective equipment."

 

“It would also include recognition of a ‘One Health’ approach that connects the health of humans, animals and our planet."

 

“And such a treaty should lead to more mutual accountability and shared responsibility, transparency and co-operation within the international system and with its rules and norms."

 

“To achieve this, we will work with heads of state and governments globally and all stakeholders, including civil society and the private sector."

 

“We are convinced that it is our responsibility, as leaders of nations and international institutions, to ensure that the world learns the lessons of the Covid-19 pandemic."

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[timestamped ~2min talk] David Scott reveals what that Scottish nurse, who made a tearful public video recently after resigning, tells him.. including;

 

*that hospitals were consistently quiet, with wards being closed,

*that there's a massive influx of jab side effects and they're not being recorded on the yellow card system,

*extensive range of series adverse reactions,

*that it got to the stage where she could identify which jab the patient had received solely by the [extensive rash] symptoms,

*and that the paperwork required to be completed did not even have an option/space to record the patients vaccination status.

 

 

This will be happening globally.

 

Gagging orders aside, how long before vast numbers of the non-dancing medical personal start blowing collective whistles through megaphones in public squares?

How long until their humanity/conscience reaches that breaking point? 

 

I mean, sure they could keep quite about empty hospitals and people dying [of things other than Covid] because those people would most likely be dying anyway,  but when huge numbers of otherwise fit and healthy people are ending up in emergency departments in appalling states; wreathing in pain, having grand mal seizures ending in paralysis and with unstoppable blood pissing out their arses.... when do they break?

 

(Fortunately, apart from a day surgery getting wisdom teeth removed, I've never been hospital, but I know a few nurses and they're lovely human beings, full of compassion. And I'm going to assume the vast majority are.)

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20 hours ago, Human10 said:

What I found funny here in Beeston UK they've got their centres of cult. Most important is Wilko. They line up in a long queue six feet apart, everyone wears mask before they enter the shop... Few steps further is BM market... No queue, no masks outside... 🤔

Nah, no such covid cult spots here, I think those psychological behaviour modifications have a hard time being embedded here because we’ve always viewed ourselves as the ‘lucky country’ with good weather, beaches beckoning, and a general laid back attitude. As a nation we’re not hysterical people or get caught up in drama, which gives us time to think reasonably and logically... well that’s been my experience anyway. 

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Major protests all over Romania -heaps of clips in link if they don't pull through.

https://www.activenews.ro/stiri/Proteste-in-Bucuresti-Timisoara-Arad-Cluj-Alba-Sibiu-Brasov-Pitesti-Ploiesti-Braila-Galati-Constanta-Focsani-Craiova.-Se-scandeaza-JOS-ARAFAT-LIBERTATE-JOS-MASCA-Luni-la-5-jumate-din-nou-la-Universitate-165959

Protests in Bucharest, Timișoara, Arad, Cluj, Alba, Sibiu, Brașov, Pitești, Ploiești, Brăila, Galați, Constanța, Focșani, Craiova. It is chanted DOWN SCREW! FREEDOM! JOS MASCA! Monday at 5:30, back at the University!

BY VLAD PÂRĂU   /   NEWS   / Posted: Sunday, March 28, 2021, 11:27 PM   / Updated: Monday, March 29, 2021, 4:44 AM   /   4 comments

For the third consecutive weekend, Romanians take to the streets in several cities of the country to express their disagreement with the increasingly harsh restrictions and the obligation to vaccinate. In Bucharest, hundreds of protesters gathered along with Pompiliu Diplan and the Freedom of State movement in the University Square.

 

From there, around 1 o'clock at night, they marched to Victoriei Square, where they chanted "Down with the Government!". 

After 2:15, they left Victoriei Square and went through Revolution Square to get back to the University, where they could occupy the road. 

At 3 o'clock the protest had not yet ended in the University Square.  They will also meet there on Monday afternoon at 17:30.

 

Their favorite slogans are "Arafat judged for those tied to the bed!", "Cîțu, terrorist!" and "A-sa-si-nii!". They also shout: "Be afraid, the people are rising!", "Down with the State of Alert!", "All parties - the same mess!", "We are not leaving!", "Free yourself! ", "All the country!". They also demanded that students return to school, stop extending the state of alert and freedom for Orthodox Christians, until 5 o'clock in the morning on Resurrection night.

 

Upset that the press, with small exceptions, was deafeningly silent on the subject of the protests, the demonstrators shouted "Let the press come and take out his leash!" Other shouts: "No violence!", "The gendarmerie defends the thief!",  "WE DON'T GIVE UP!", "Down with Iohannis!" , "The firefighters are with us!", "Ro-me!", "U-ni-ta-te!", "Li-ber-ta-te!", "The people woke up that you had us humiliated! ”,“

,“ We are the 3rd wave and we come over them! ”,“ We stop the quarantine! ”,“ Down, Voiculescu! ”,“ M ** e Arafat! ”,“ Down with the mask! ”,“ No statement! ” .

The most interesting slogans were "Down, Masonry!", "Down with the Bolsheviks!" And Pompiliu Diplan the curfew at 3am with shouting "At 5:30, the University," is now 17:30 rendez-vous for a new protest in University Square.

TIMISOARA was still on the street at 4:30 in the morning. "A USRist, you bastard!" is the slogan they shouted at Mayor Dominic Fritz (USR), who is being prepared for a referendum on dismissal. The people of Timișoara will meet again at 17:00 in the Opera Square.

Below you can see the chronology of events and stories from several cities:

"Down, Masonry!", "Down with the Bolsheviks!" 

 

TIMISOARA was still on the street at 4:30 in the morning. "A USRist, you bastard!" is the slogan they shouted at Mayor Dominic Fritz (USR), who is being prepared for a referendum on dismissal. The people of Timișoara will meet again at 17:00 in the Opera Square.

Romania TV broadcasts live the protests that spread in 4 big cities beyond midnight. According to the same source, in Constanța the protesters took refuge in a church.

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The Legitimate Defense facebook page broadcast live the show on Romania TV , one of the few televisions that reflected the protest movements and broadcast real-time images from the Capital and several cities of the Country.

"Galați is blocked", claims Luis Bratu with images from the city on the Danube, where the protesters blocked the traffic and got in the cars.

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Although it has been a long time since 20:00, the time when the new Arafati order prohibits the movement outside homes in cities with over 4% infection rate, protesters are still on the streets near midnight and shout "Get out of the house if you care ! ”. Unfortunately, the mainstream press chose to silence the subject or reflect it biasedly. "Let's get the press to remove his leash!", The journalists' protesters slapped them in the face. 

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Reserve firefighters join anti-Arafat protesters, România TV reports  .  

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At 00:30, the protesters line up in the University Square, along with Pompiliu Diplan and the State of Freedom. 

 

Because there were rumors that several protesters would not be allowed by the police to drive to the University Square, the protesters started at 1:15 to move to Victoriei Square, to shout their offer in front of the Government. They shout "Get out of the house if you care!", "No violence!", "The gendarmerie defends the thief!", "WE DON'T GIVE UP!", "Down with Iohannis!" , "The firefighters are with us!", "Ro-me!", "U-us!", "Free yourself!" humiliated! ”,“ We are the 3rd wave and we come over them! ”,“ We stop the quarantine! ”,“ Down with the mask! ”.

 

01:30 Protesters march towards the Government and say the "Our Father" prayer.

 

 01:40: A thousand people are on the street and in PITEȘTI.

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1:45 A few dozen protesters also came out in Sibiu to the Great Square.
  
 
2:00 Sibiu marched from the Great Square down the pedestrian street in the city center, among the terraces closed in the evening at 20:00. They descended towards Unirii Square, advanced on Calea Dumbrăvii and headed towards bvd. Michael the Brave. From there they started on Rahovei Street and returned to Bvd. Vasile Milea, where they were still marching at 3:00.
 
 
2:00 Thousands of Bucharest residents occupied Victoriei Square and shouted "We don't leave here, we don't go home until we win our Freedom!". They are angry at the biased reporters who came to film them and shout "All channels, the same mess!". "GOVERNMENT DOWN!" it's the most repeated slogan, like "Don't stay in the house anymore!". 
  
 
 
One of the most pragmatic shouts was NO DECLARATION! 
 
At 2:15, the rally in Victoriei Square decreased.  The protesters are heading to the University Square.  
  
 
2:30 PM the slogan "Down, Voiculescu" is shouted on the streets of Bucharest.
 
At 2:35 the group of protesters is in Revolution Square and is heading towards University Square. 
 
At 2:45 on the way to the University Square, Pompiliu Diplan spreads the message "At 5:30 - at the University!", Referring to the resumption of the protest on Monday at 17:30.
 
 
 
At 2:50 the protest continues in the University Square in the Capital. The gendarmes are trying to dialogue with the protesters. They made room for the demonstrators to occupy the road. 
 
At 3:05 they shouted "Down with Freemasonry!", "Down with the Bolsheviks!" and the famous "civic sudalm" directed against Arafat. The anthem "Wake up, Romanian!" Is sung.
 
 
 
2:55 The people of Timișoara march in the middle of the street, with much greater momentum than during the day, when the protest was limited to a square in the central square of the city.
  
 
 
At 3:30, they protest in Timișoara, in front of the Opera. The last, but not the last, to take to the streets are the inhabitants of Ploiești, Craiova, Caraş-Severin, Alba-Iulia and Brașov,  according to România TV 
 
At 4:30, Timisoara is still on the street. The protesters also meet on Monday afternoon in the Opera Square at 17:00.
 
The demonstrators plan to continue the protests on Monday, in every city in the province, at 17:30 in front of the Prefecture or in a central square. Those from Bucharest will meet again in the University Square on Monday at 17:30.
 
 
 
 

 

 
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1 hour ago, Velma said:

World leaders call for a pandemic peace treaty among nations to respond to future contagions in global lock-step.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/letter-in-full-world-leaders-including-boris-johnson-call-for-international-pandemic-treaty/ar-BB1f77Ek

 

“Pandemic preparedness needs global leadership"

 

“There will be other pandemics and other major health emergencies."

 

“No single government or multilateral agency can address this threat alone. The question is not if, but when."

 

“Together, we must be better prepared to predict, prevent, detect, assess and effectively respond to pandemics in a highly co-ordinated fashion."

 

“To that end, we believe that nations should work together towards a new international treaty for pandemic preparedness and response."

 

“Such a renewed collective commitment would be a milestone in stepping up pandemic preparedness at the highest political level."

 

“It would be rooted in the constitution of the World Health Organisation, drawing in other relevant organisations key to this endeavour, in support of the principle of health for all."

 

“Existing global health instruments, especially the International Health Regulations, would underpin such a treaty, ensuring a firm and tested foundation on which we can build and improve."

 

“The main goal of this treaty would be to foster an all-of-government and all-of-society approach, strengthening national, regional and global capacities and resilience to future pandemics."

 

“This includes greatly enhancing international co-operation to improve, for example, alert systems, data-sharing, research, and local, regional and global production and distribution of medical and public health counter measures, such as vaccines, medicines, diagnostics and personal protective equipment."

 

“It would also include recognition of a ‘One Health’ approach that connects the health of humans, animals and our planet."

 

“And such a treaty should lead to more mutual accountability and shared responsibility, transparency and co-operation within the international system and with its rules and norms."

 

“To achieve this, we will work with heads of state and governments globally and all stakeholders, including civil society and the private sector."

 

“We are convinced that it is our responsibility, as leaders of nations and international institutions, to ensure that the world learns the lessons of the Covid-19 pandemic."

nobody is safe until everyone is safe’

Really rather ominous and frighting new slogan from our leaders.

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