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18 minutes ago, CyprusAvenue said:


The last thing this Government (and others throughout the world) want is for the little people to come together in order to stop this madness.  We outnumber this cabal and worldwide we can be a force to be reckoned with although obviously many more little people would be welcomed.  Did you see the pics in Berlin?  Police first stated officially that there were 1.3 million people around the Brandenburg Gate, this was then considerably reduced to a couple of hundred thousand I think (can't remember exact figure).  That was very encouraging to put it mildly, imagine if that was replicated elsewhere!

The video live stream posted by concerned citizen of the berlin demo well worth watching for anyone interested in peaceful non compliance 



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4 hours ago, CyprusAvenue said:


@Messenger yes, agree with you re the wording.  Also agree that proper nutrition is needed but that's deemed unimportant these days.  One thing I have noticed is the massive volume of tv ads for fast food establishments at the moment, we've never had this many before.

Hi CyprusAve, I have not watched TV in years except for some select movies and some netflix such as game of thrones and the latest I've been watching is a series called Stranger Things, so I have not noticed the fast "food" ads.


I have noticed that a lot of them underwent renovations over the past few years. Some buildings that didn't even need it. They remodeled to a drab grey blocky looking building and I wonder if thats to appeal to the kids who were obsessed with minecraft since the game play is very blocky and grey.

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I'm dropping off some links that contain some interesting information and leads.


This lady, I think I found her twitter feed from that Richard Citizen Journalist guy.




Then I found this wikileaks dump, basically a page full of links that could be damning information to some bad people. Who knows, I haven't looked at it yet, only scrolled and scanned.




Found this twitter feed. A lot of trump nut-swinging but there is some good info and vids there.




Apparently NY will be setting up covid checkpoints to enforce quarantine. That should go over very well. lol


And take a look at the picture a person took of their stamped returned IRS postage that says it was received by JP Morgan! lol wow.


And the adrenochrome billboard someone put up in Midland MI, wow.






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10 hours ago, Given To Fly said:


do they have the right to refuse you service for not wearing one, i don't know. but i'll not be wearing one, and not just because i'm asthmatic but just on principle. but i will say i'm exempt for medical reasons.


i also want a 'catalyst' such as this to get the ball rolling on the exact same thing 😀

it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Good afternoon, Given To Fly.


Absolutely, they do have the right to refuse service to me but I think some people simply don't want to rock the boat. Hell, I'll rock the boat and tip it over, I know how to swim. 🙂 The more they push the closer we get to exposing the entire thing to more people. Bumpy ride, that's what seat belts and safety harnesses are for. :classic_biggrin:

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7 hours ago, shadowmoon said:

Better a  mask than a ventilator.

Nurses who wear masks for all 8 hours  of their shift

Mask is the same as a seatbelt  analogy.


Please add to this list any more you can think of?



The one about someone with no trousers on pissing themselves. I adapted it elsewhere...



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16 hours ago, Sentient Being said:

Apologies if this video has been posted... this thread (quite rightly is long).


This nonsense is getting stupid. This video sums up my thoughts:



Confirms what we have always suspected, Matt Hancock= CUNT. Borders, my youngest daughter while she not at uni is working as a picker for Tesco does not have to wear a mask. If she goes in the same store as a customer, she is supposed to wear a mask, or face covering. Then she can go for a drink in a pub as a customer with no mask on. Bloody clever this virus, to be able to know the difference between a shop worker and a customer, and where she is a customer.

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17 hours ago, MR-E said:

visited lidl today mask free as always upon  exiting  the store walking back to car shaking my head in disgust talking loud enough to myself  that people can hear when chap asks me "everything ok "

no everything is not ok I am saddened & dismayed at the total stupidity of supposed intelligent people who choose to wear a mask because they are told too!!''@ its inhumane totally unnatural & not necessary & it upsets me to witness it.


His reply as he muzzled up to enter      "well I would sooner live in a mask than to live in an incubator" .

  wow just wow 

let us not underestimate the challenges  that lie ahead  ..


That man needs to go back into an incubator and grow a brain!


What sort of mask was the guy wearing, just the normal type that if there was a deadly virus, down to 0.3 micron, it would pass right through, like a fly flying through a chain link fence?  I would reply something on the lines of, which I have done, "that mask is not going to save you from an incubator😄" "I am Mr Health and Safety and if there was a real deadly virus, I would wear my military grade respirator without hesitation, and not a piece of toilet paper across my face ."



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9 hours ago, banjo dog said:

Confirms what we have always suspected, Matt Hancock= CUNT. Borders, my youngest daughter while she not at uni is working as a picker for Tesco does not have to wear a mask. If she goes in the same store as a customer, she is supposed to wear a mask, or face covering. Then she can go for a drink in a pub as a customer with no mask on. Bloody clever this virus, to be able to know the difference between a shop worker and a customer, and where she is a customer.


Yes, banjo dog, a set of ridiculous rules just to feck people over and continue the invented state of emergency.


In today's Telegraph the new rules on the local lockdowns.  You are not allowed to meet in other peoples homes or their gardens. You can meet them in a park (maximum of 6 people, 7 would be illegal), but not their private garden. Nor can 2 households meet in a restaurant or pub, which will be filled with all other households.    Weddings, civil partnerships, funerals can only have a maximum of 30 people. 31 people would be unsafe and illegal.  Also it is OK for 30 people to attend a wedding or funeral, but they cannot go on to a party afterwards.


Also to note, the lockdown restrictions in Aberdeen, Scotland have closed bars, pubs, restaurants and an advisory 5 mile travel limit etc.




What are the local lockdown rules in Manchester, Preston, Aberdeen, Kirklees and Bradford?

People in Greater Manchester, east Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire are banned from meeting different households indoors

By Harry Yorke, Political Correspondent 8 August 2020 • 6:41am

The new restrictions extend to Greater Manchester, Blackburn with Darwen, Burnley, Hyndburn, Pendleton, Rossendale, Bradford, Kirklees and Calderdale. Residents in Preston have been banned by the Government from gathering in each other’s homes and gardens.

Here are the rules as they apply in the affected areas:

Can I go and visit my family at home?

If they live in one of the affected areas, the answer is no. Two households are no longer permitted to meet at home or in a private garden, except where they have formed a support bubble. 

What if they want to visit me?

The same rule applies. Even if you live outside the lockdown zone, they are not allowed to come to your home. 

Could we still go to the pub or a restaurant together?

No. Under the new lockdown restrictions, pubs and restaurants will remain open but two households will no longer be allowed to mix indoors. The restriction extends to cafes, shops, places of worship, community centres, leisure and entertainment venues. 

The relevant businesses have also been advised to monitor customers to make sure they are not interacting with other households. 

New laws are being implemented to enforce the changes, with police able to take action if people flout the ban on meeting in homes and gardens. They will have the power to break up gatherings and issue fines of up to £100, which will double for subsequent offences. 

So I cannot see my family or friends, then? 

Not quite. People living in the lockdown zones can still continue to meet in outdoor public spaces in groups of up to six people. They will still be required to socially distance

Can I go to work? 

There is no restriction on travelling to and from the office. 

Are any businesses closing? 

Yes, but only in specific locations. In Blackburn with Darwen, and in Bradford, indoor gyms, fitness and dance studies, sports courts, swimming pools and water parks will remain closed by law. 

Were families able to celebrate Eid together? 

Yes, although the rules meant people could not meet indoors or host family and friends as they might have normally. Instead, any gatherings took place outdoors and were limited to groups of six, unless they were two households (in which case there was not a limit). 

People could also attend mosque, provided the venues were Covid-secure and they were observing social distancing. However, the Government encouraged religious leaders to hold prayers and services outdoors. 

Can I still come out of shielding if considered clinically vulnerable?

Unfortunately not. The relaxations to shielding, due to commence on August 1, have been suspended for the areas within the new lockdown zones.

Should I cancel my wedding? 

Weddings and civil partnership ceremonies are still permitted, with up to 30 people able to attend. However, large receptions or parties afterwards should not go ahead. People can also travel in and out of lockdown zones to attend weddings. 

Funerals of the same size can also take place. 

What are the rules in Aberdeen?

Lockdown measures have been reimposed in Aberdeen. All pubs, bars and restaurants have been closed, while a five-mile advisory limit on travel is also being reintroduced and residents have been advised not to visit other people in their homes.



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9 hours ago, Not Thoth said:


The one about someone with no trousers on pissing themselves. I adapted it elsewhere...



Run out of likes for today.. 😞

These things operate on some level that people  fall for, don't  know if it's the pictures or what? They are not organic I can tell that, some team is producing  them.

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The BBC (not the populace) are asking the question, what are we ALLOWED to do now?


The answer is as clear as mud and entirely different, depending on which part of the UK you reside.


In England and Ireland a social-distance of one meter is sufficient, because the virus can't reach as far in these regions as it can in Scotland and Wales, where it remains at two meters.


The Welsh and the Irish are only compelled to wear face masks on public transport, but in England and Scotland they must be worn in shops, museums, hairdressers and aquariums. The virus in Wales and Ireland doesn't affect such places, apparently.


You can entertain at home in this stifling weather, but preferrably outdoors and if it's indoors, open the windows and doors, the virus doesn't like ventilation. But don't handle food, it's crawling with coronavirus.


The English can meet six people from multiple households outdoors, or up to 30 people from two households. In Scotland, the limit is 15 people from up to five households. This virus is very specific on the number of people it can tolerate in groups.


Hancock has been given exceptional powers to close down premises, stop events and shut down places like parks. This could be used to close beaches or beauty spots if there are concerns about crowds potentially spreading the virus.


Dr Julian Tang, an “expert” in respiratory sciences from the University of Leicester, said that while the risk is lower when meeting people outside, there are things to bear in mind.


He said: "If you are within 50 to 70cm you are at what I call garlic breath distance - if you can smell what they've been eating then you're almost certainly breathing their air.


"If you're on a really crowded beach where people are less than 1m apart, then the sun and wind may not have time to kill or blow away the virus before it is inhaled by the other person."


He also suggests if you're talking to a friend on the beach, it's better to both be looking out to sea rather than facing each other, because talking face to face is dangerous in the open air..


The numbers of people allowed in houses and private gardens in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland differ, while indoor meetings are not allowed in Wales, in England, two households of any size can meet up indoors.


Holidaymakers are advised to "take particular care to maintain excellent hygiene - washing hands and surfaces - and avoid using shared facilities like bathrooms wherever possible."


You are also advised not to share private swimming pools, paddling pools or any sort of garden equipment with anyone outside your own household or support bubble. Sharing water and lawnmowers is deadly.


This virus is very fickle, having varying properties in different areas, climates and surfaces. If anyone believes any of this crap, I suggest you see a doctor, pronto, and get your head examined.


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I think this article by Katie Hopkins deserves to be highlighted. I wish Fiona Hine the best of luck in her court case on the 19th August. The same goes for Piers Corbyn, our forum member and anyone else also arrested on the 16th May at Speakers Corner. Hopefully human rights and sanity will prevail.





Meet Fiona.


She’s a lovely English lady with a happy family, hard-working parents and a firm belief that as long as you aren’t hurting anyone else and resect the law, you should be free to live your life as you please.

Whether you choose to work like a demon, live off-grid, or identify as a cocktail sausage on a Wednesday, frankly, Fiona couldn’t care less, as long as you pay your way and mind your own business. 

Fiona is also a test case in the UK.

She is due to appear in Westminster Magistrates Court in London on 19 August and her charge sheet reads as follows:

‘On 16th May 2020 at Speakers Corner, Hyde Park, London W1, without reasonable excuse, during the emergency period, other than as permitted by Regulations, you participated in a gathering in public place of more than 2 people’.

As criminal offenses go, we are not exactly talking Al Capone. But Fiona is now charged with "gathering" without a "reasonable excuse." How very dare she?

Sitting in rural Cornwall, a farming region in the far Southwest of England (about as far as it is possible to get from the madness of London), we chatted about her decision to attend a Freedom Rally in Hyde Park after lockdown was imposed on the UK on March 26.

"I didn’t go on a whim. Way back in March I started to wonder what was really going on with COVID and the more I read, the more I started to question all the new rules being imposed on us. The more I researched, the more I realized nothing about lockdown made any kind of sense.”

Privately, I am relieved. It shames me to say this out loud, but I am reassured to hear this smart, educated woman talking so coherently about her beliefs. Bluntly, our side does attract its fair share of whackos and I am relieved to find Fiona is not one.

Highly educated, a respected professional and a former First Class British Airways crew member, I hope her obvious credibility will provide some kind of armor for her in the weeks and months ahead. She is very clear that she is not your typical protestor.

“You know, I have never been to a protest before. I am not a protestor; in fact I’d say I was the opposite of a protestor. I believe in law and order. My mother and father brought me up to believe that if you work hard and play fair you will be ok. But these are rules without reason.”

And isn’t that how so many of us feel? We respect law and order and support the police. But when did a virus become a matter for law enforcement?

The Speakers Corner Freedom Event on 16 May attracted a small mixed crowd of freedom-loving libertarians -- some opposed to lockdown, others fearing mandatory vaccines and most, the curtailment of personal freedoms.

Fiona says; “The rally was about as apolitical as you can get, ethnically mixed and as far from right-wing as it is possible to be. It was a gathering of ordinary well-meaning people who are worried about the imposition of rules and controls which we have no say over.”

Fiona’s legal representative tells me that similar gatherings have been held across the UK and "other police forces have allowed these to proceed, in contrast to the Met Police, as they believe that the right to protest was an overarching Human Right that the Covid Regulations had not forbidden. So there is some sense exercised on this occasion."

When the police moved in to disperse the small crowd, Fiona was arrested and put into the back of a waiting police van together with around twelve others, including Piers Corbyn, brother of the former Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

Held in a dirty police cell for twelve hours on a Saturday evening, Fiona passed the time drinking tea, chatting with the friendlier members of the custody team, and trying her best to ignore dubious reassurances from the inept solicitor on-call who said he would "try and have her out by Monday." She was finally released in the very early hours of Sunday morning and her charge sheet followed shortly after in the post.

Listening to Fiona chat happily about her beloved father (an army veteran) and his belief that we should "live and be merry…. and never let your bollocks dangle in the dust," I do wonder whether hours in custody was strictly necessary for one well-spoken British woman for an offense that is non-imprisonable. Breaching these regulations would normally attract a small fine, so why the heavy-handed arrests for Fiona, Piers and others?

Just fifteen days later, tens of thousands of activists gathered in Trafalgar Square to protest the death of George Floyd. For weekend after weekend, thousands more started into the streets en masse, signing off each time with thuggery and violence.

One observer of the BLM protests, Reverend Sally Hitchiner, commented on the sheer numbers turning up. "I am surprised to see so many people here, they do not appear to be following social distancing rules. But I think there is a huge amount of passion and that is overriding their concerns."

You will spot the obvious double-standard. Guess how many BLM protestors were arrested and held in a cell under Covid Restrictions.


There is much more that could be said. But as my friend Tommy Robinson knows only too well, there are reporting restrictions regarding ongoing court cases in the UK and "contempt of court" penalties are particularly harsh for Conservative journalists documenting the challenges faced by white British nationals. I am restricted from commenting on the case itself.

But the broader questions raised by Fiona’s arrest and detention remain unasked:

What purpose does it serve to arrest and hold an otherwise law-abiding citizen in a cell for 12 hours and pursue court action for the non-imprisonable offense of peacefully gathering in a public park?

Why is it that COVID laws appear to apply to one group of tens of people but not another involving tens of thousands — could it be that the Metropolitan Police are actively discriminating against those politely standing up for freedom?

What takes precedence -- Human Rights or new Covid Regulations? The Human Rights Act 1998 (specifically Articles 10 and 11, the freedom of expression and assembly) gives Fiona the right to stand at Speakers Corner. Does Coronavirus take those freedoms away?

But perhaps the most troubling question is a more esoteric one. Given only the bravest few are prepared to take any kind of stand against the systematic removal of our personal liberties, do the masses even understand freedom or deserve it? It has already cost Fiona her jobs and any hope of future employment. It will not end there. Most would rather steer clear.

And so the simpering majority continue to comply, as if siding with those who steal their freedoms will buy them special privileges from their captors. Their willful ignorance is overwhelming.

It is not enough to shake our heads about it in private. Or excuse our own inaction. Or be bought off by the state with furlough cash.

A few good men need to make a stand and Fiona is one of them. I wish many more had the moral courage to stand by her side.




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41 minutes ago, Velma said:

If you're on a really crowded beach where people are less than 1m apart, then the sun and wind may not have time to kill or blow away the virus before it is inhaled by the other person."

First its alive on surfaces, then its inert, then its alive again.

Magic virus.!

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A Polish Canadian group says it severed ties five years ago with a Polish-language newspaper that published an anti-Semitic tirade suggesting Jews are behind the COVID-19 pandemic.


The Toronto-based publication twice ran an article that contained an array of anti-Jewish slurs. As well as linking Jews to the coronavirus, it said the radical Islamist group ISIL was a Jewish creation to reduce the population of gentiles, that Israel is “the cause of all the world’s woes” and that Jews control the world’s stock markets.


B’nai Brith Canada, which first brought the article to light, has filed a hate-crimes complaint about the piece with Toronto police.




Hmm... have Canadian Poles been talking to Wiley?

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