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23 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I see that phrase (or variants of it) used so many time by people on social media ("repeaters")

 

"Better a mask, than a ventilator" etc etc

Better a  mask than a ventilator.

Nurses who wear masks for all 8 hours  of their shift

Mask is the same as a seatbelt  analogy.

 

Please add to this list any more you can think of?

I've had or heard all of those  somewhere so far.

 

Went into my sainsbury to buy an ice lolly about an hour ago, no mask ..

God, if looks could kill from some of them .. take the damn things off don't  be angry about me representing  freedom..

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18 minutes ago, MR-E said:

these were the actual words he replied could not believe it !

 

I cant also believe how the behaviour of others is now really effecting my  emotional well being.

 

 

@MR-E you have to step away and not concern yourself with others, you are not responsible for them.  Hold your head high and be thankful your eyes are wide open.  

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10 minutes ago, Seeker said:

As places are opening up and I’m talking to more people, there’s one common denominator in who is in fear/ brainwashed, and who isn’t. The answer is who watches the news on tv, the people who don’t watch tv recognise that this is all bs but don’t understand why (the agendas). Then there’s the people who watch tv and are so gullible to everything they see on tv, obviously because of how it affects the brainwaves into an alpha state, making them more gullible without questioning. Obviously the challenge is getting people to stop watching mainstream media 

your right but i think the brainwashing is every where ?.multi levels of subliminal messaging all around.

Do you think we are born slightly different  something in our wiring that is different  some how can not effect us chemical imbalance additional brain receptors or blood group a shared trait of some kind because if we knew these answers maybe we could better understand our own immunity from this disease of the mind effecting so many other fellow humans.

stopping people watching mainstream media or why not providing demanding a mainstream media channel funded by controlled by run by  WE THE PEOPLE 

but lets not stop there also WE THE PEOPLE mandate a committee of individual people chosen by the people for the people to oversee with full transparency & unfettered access to any & all government actions past & present  our overseers of truth .A new normal to be demanded by the people who ultimately hold the power free from corrupt corporate rule. 

ideas anyone.....

 

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5 hours ago, Given To Fly said:

but i will say i'm exempt for medical reasons

No need.

I havent worn one yet and only once have I been asked to put one on (in aldi) and I just said no thanks with a big smile and that was that. No need to explain. And apparently they dont have the right to ask if you have a medical condition or not. 

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22 minutes ago, CyprusAvenue said:

 

 

@MR-E you have to step away and not concern yourself with others, you are not responsible for them.  Hold your head high and be thankful your eyes are wide open.  

But when the actions of others impact on how I choose to live & going forward i dont see how that is possible?

do we bury our head in the sand do we say nothing or do we  have the right to stand up for  the truth & what we believe. because we aint gonna change anything without  the majority also understanding what we know.  THE TRUTH

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14 minutes ago, MR-E said:

Do you think we are born slightly different  something in our wiring that is different  some how can not effect us chemical imbalance additional brain receptors or blood group a shared trait of some kind

 

 I am a natural lefthander and have never  felt part of the herd .

If this has some bearing, I don't know.  but it feels that way.

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2 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

I've just posted this on todays news, I think it's probably better on here.   They are in on it - up to their beady little peado eyes.
What to expect in the office .....   1984 eat your heart out, jeez...
The latest from the BBC, I'm lost for words, I really am, this is breathtakingly - awful:

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Click here to see just how bad this page is in its entirety:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-dc2d6e2d-3ab4-42de-8d03-bb7eda5fff8e

 

 

 

Couldn't read it all got to a point where my brain was just going "bla bla bla" and refused to take it all in 😂 but.....

 

If Covid-19 dies out in the coming months and a vaccine is found quickly, many homes and workplaces could return to something like "normal".

But aspects of Laila's imaginary life may become reality for many of us, particularly if there are continued outbreaks and no vaccine is found.

 

Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine..... it's just more bullshit to make people want it?!

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6 minutes ago, MR-E said:

But when the actions of others impact on how I choose to live & going forward i dont see how that is possible?

do we bury our head in the sand do we say nothing or do we  have the right to stand up for  the truth & what we believe. because we aint gonna change anything without  the majority also understanding what we know.  THE TRUTH

You have the right to  try and help them.

But alas they have the right to mock or ignore your warnings.

 

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

 

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1 hour ago, shadowmoon said:

 

 I am a natural lefthander and have never  felt part of the herd .

If this has some bearing, I don't know.  but it feels that way.

how many more share common traits amongst us me also left handed how do we know we aint all linked in some way that explains our difference. uniqueness

I hate advert breaks in between programmes I refuse to allow myself to watch them always have done .can still remember the white spinning thing tht led into the ads ?always felt it twisted my mind some how

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50 minutes ago, MR-E said:

But when the actions of others impact on how I choose to live & going forward i dont see how that is possible?

do we bury our head in the sand do we say nothing or do we  have the right to stand up for  the truth & what we believe. because we aint gonna change anything without  the majority also understanding what we know.  THE TRUTH

 

 

@MR-E I can only speak from my experience some years ago where I became consumed by both injustice and toxic individuals employed by the state.  It didn't do me any good but the only 'positive' that came out of it was that my eyes became opened to how organisations work and how there is a never-ending number of employees paid to lie/sneer/roll eyes at the little man aka me.  And it continues to this day.  Importantly though I've found my voice and will stand up for myself which does anger some individuals who believe they shouldn't be questioned.

 

No, you don't bury your head in the sand.  Rather, you walk tall without a mask (if appropriate situation) and, importantly, showing no shame for doing so.  Pick your battles by deciding whether or not to engage so obviously anyone shouty is best ignored.  Some (most) people are terrified, they've been brainwashed but have found that asking them questions can potentially offer an opportunity to raise a couple of simple points.  It's getting them to think for themselves cos there's bound to be something that they're a little puzzled or confused by, likely they'll not want to do this within their own circle.

 

The last thing this Government (and others throughout the world) want is for the little people to come together in order to stop this madness.  We outnumber this cabal and worldwide we can be a force to be reckoned with although obviously many more little people would be welcomed.  Did you see the pics in Berlin?  Police first stated officially that there were 1.3 million people around the Brandenburg Gate, this was then considerably reduced to a couple of hundred thousand I think (can't remember exact figure).  That was very encouraging to put it mildly, imagine if that was replicated elsewhere!

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17 minutes ago, MR-E said:

how many more share common traits amongst us me also left handed how do we know we aint all linked in some way that explains our difference. uniqueness

I hate advert breaks in between programmes I refuse to allow myself to watch them always have done .can still remember the white spinning thing tht led into the ads ?always felt it twisted my mind some how

👍 left handed  thumbs up.

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18 minutes ago, CyprusAvenue said:

 

The last thing this Government (and others throughout the world) want is for the little people to come together in order to stop this madness.  We outnumber this cabal and worldwide we can be a force to be reckoned with although obviously many more little people would be welcomed.  Did you see the pics in Berlin?  Police first stated officially that there were 1.3 million people around the Brandenburg Gate, this was then considerably reduced to a couple of hundred thousand I think (can't remember exact figure).  That was very encouraging to put it mildly, imagine if that was replicated elsewhere!

The video live stream posted by concerned citizen of the berlin demo well worth watching for anyone interested in peaceful non compliance 

 

 

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4 hours ago, CyprusAvenue said:

 

@Messenger yes, agree with you re the wording.  Also agree that proper nutrition is needed but that's deemed unimportant these days.  One thing I have noticed is the massive volume of tv ads for fast food establishments at the moment, we've never had this many before.

Hi CyprusAve, I have not watched TV in years except for some select movies and some netflix such as game of thrones and the latest I've been watching is a series called Stranger Things, so I have not noticed the fast "food" ads.

 

I have noticed that a lot of them underwent renovations over the past few years. Some buildings that didn't even need it. They remodeled to a drab grey blocky looking building and I wonder if thats to appeal to the kids who were obsessed with minecraft since the game play is very blocky and grey.

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I'm dropping off some links that contain some interesting information and leads.

 

This lady, I think I found her twitter feed from that Richard Citizen Journalist guy.

 

https://twitter.com/Leah_4JESUSandQ

 

Then I found this wikileaks dump, basically a page full of links that could be damning information to some bad people. Who knows, I haven't looked at it yet, only scrolled and scanned.

 

https://file.wikileaks.org/file/

 

Found this twitter feed. A lot of trump nut-swinging but there is some good info and vids there.

 

https://twitter.com/AwakeningThe17

 

Apparently NY will be setting up covid checkpoints to enforce quarantine. That should go over very well. lol

 

And take a look at the picture a person took of their stamped returned IRS postage that says it was received by JP Morgan! lol wow.

 

And the adrenochrome billboard someone put up in Midland MI, wow.

 

 

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IRS-jp-morgan-chase-criminals-august-2020.jpg

Bezos-sells-3-billion-of-his-amazon-stock-aug-2020.jpg

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10 hours ago, Given To Fly said:

 

do they have the right to refuse you service for not wearing one, i don't know. but i'll not be wearing one, and not just because i'm asthmatic but just on principle. but i will say i'm exempt for medical reasons.

 

i also want a 'catalyst' such as this to get the ball rolling on the exact same thing 😀

it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Good afternoon, Given To Fly.

 

Absolutely, they do have the right to refuse service to me but I think some people simply don't want to rock the boat. Hell, I'll rock the boat and tip it over, I know how to swim. 🙂 The more they push the closer we get to exposing the entire thing to more people. Bumpy ride, that's what seat belts and safety harnesses are for. :classic_biggrin:

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7 hours ago, shadowmoon said:

Better a  mask than a ventilator.

Nurses who wear masks for all 8 hours  of their shift

Mask is the same as a seatbelt  analogy.

 

Please add to this list any more you can think of?

 

 

The one about someone with no trousers on pissing themselves. I adapted it elsewhere...

 

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16 hours ago, Sentient Being said:

Apologies if this video has been posted... this thread (quite rightly is long).

 

This nonsense is getting stupid. This video sums up my thoughts:

 

 

Confirms what we have always suspected, Matt Hancock= CUNT. Borders, my youngest daughter while she not at uni is working as a picker for Tesco does not have to wear a mask. If she goes in the same store as a customer, she is supposed to wear a mask, or face covering. Then she can go for a drink in a pub as a customer with no mask on. Bloody clever this virus, to be able to know the difference between a shop worker and a customer, and where she is a customer.

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17 hours ago, MR-E said:

visited lidl today mask free as always upon  exiting  the store walking back to car shaking my head in disgust talking loud enough to myself  that people can hear when chap asks me "everything ok "

no everything is not ok I am saddened & dismayed at the total stupidity of supposed intelligent people who choose to wear a mask because they are told too!!''@ its inhumane totally unnatural & not necessary & it upsets me to witness it.

 

His reply as he muzzled up to enter      "well I would sooner live in a mask than to live in an incubator" .

  wow just wow 

let us not underestimate the challenges  that lie ahead  ..

 

That man needs to go back into an incubator and grow a brain!

 

What sort of mask was the guy wearing, just the normal type that if there was a deadly virus, down to 0.3 micron, it would pass right through, like a fly flying through a chain link fence?  I would reply something on the lines of, which I have done, "that mask is not going to save you from an incubator😄" "I am Mr Health and Safety and if there was a real deadly virus, I would wear my military grade respirator without hesitation, and not a piece of toilet paper across my face ."

 

 

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9 hours ago, banjo dog said:

Confirms what we have always suspected, Matt Hancock= CUNT. Borders, my youngest daughter while she not at uni is working as a picker for Tesco does not have to wear a mask. If she goes in the same store as a customer, she is supposed to wear a mask, or face covering. Then she can go for a drink in a pub as a customer with no mask on. Bloody clever this virus, to be able to know the difference between a shop worker and a customer, and where she is a customer.

 

Yes, banjo dog, a set of ridiculous rules just to feck people over and continue the invented state of emergency.

 

In today's Telegraph the new rules on the local lockdowns.  You are not allowed to meet in other peoples homes or their gardens. You can meet them in a park (maximum of 6 people, 7 would be illegal), but not their private garden. Nor can 2 households meet in a restaurant or pub, which will be filled with all other households.    Weddings, civil partnerships, funerals can only have a maximum of 30 people. 31 people would be unsafe and illegal.  Also it is OK for 30 people to attend a wedding or funeral, but they cannot go on to a party afterwards.

 

Also to note, the lockdown restrictions in Aberdeen, Scotland have closed bars, pubs, restaurants and an advisory 5 mile travel limit etc.

 

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What are the local lockdown rules in Manchester, Preston, Aberdeen, Kirklees and Bradford?

People in Greater Manchester, east Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire are banned from meeting different households indoors

By Harry Yorke, Political Correspondent 8 August 2020 • 6:41am
 

The new restrictions extend to Greater Manchester, Blackburn with Darwen, Burnley, Hyndburn, Pendleton, Rossendale, Bradford, Kirklees and Calderdale. Residents in Preston have been banned by the Government from gathering in each other’s homes and gardens.

Here are the rules as they apply in the affected areas:

Can I go and visit my family at home?

If they live in one of the affected areas, the answer is no. Two households are no longer permitted to meet at home or in a private garden, except where they have formed a support bubble. 

What if they want to visit me?

The same rule applies. Even if you live outside the lockdown zone, they are not allowed to come to your home. 

Could we still go to the pub or a restaurant together?

No. Under the new lockdown restrictions, pubs and restaurants will remain open but two households will no longer be allowed to mix indoors. The restriction extends to cafes, shops, places of worship, community centres, leisure and entertainment venues. 

The relevant businesses have also been advised to monitor customers to make sure they are not interacting with other households. 

New laws are being implemented to enforce the changes, with police able to take action if people flout the ban on meeting in homes and gardens. They will have the power to break up gatherings and issue fines of up to £100, which will double for subsequent offences. 

So I cannot see my family or friends, then? 

Not quite. People living in the lockdown zones can still continue to meet in outdoor public spaces in groups of up to six people. They will still be required to socially distance

Can I go to work? 

There is no restriction on travelling to and from the office. 

Are any businesses closing? 

Yes, but only in specific locations. In Blackburn with Darwen, and in Bradford, indoor gyms, fitness and dance studies, sports courts, swimming pools and water parks will remain closed by law. 

Were families able to celebrate Eid together? 

Yes, although the rules meant people could not meet indoors or host family and friends as they might have normally. Instead, any gatherings took place outdoors and were limited to groups of six, unless they were two households (in which case there was not a limit). 

People could also attend mosque, provided the venues were Covid-secure and they were observing social distancing. However, the Government encouraged religious leaders to hold prayers and services outdoors. 

Can I still come out of shielding if considered clinically vulnerable?

Unfortunately not. The relaxations to shielding, due to commence on August 1, have been suspended for the areas within the new lockdown zones.

Should I cancel my wedding? 

Weddings and civil partnership ceremonies are still permitted, with up to 30 people able to attend. However, large receptions or parties afterwards should not go ahead. People can also travel in and out of lockdown zones to attend weddings. 

Funerals of the same size can also take place. 

What are the rules in Aberdeen?

Lockdown measures have been reimposed in Aberdeen. All pubs, bars and restaurants have been closed, while a five-mile advisory limit on travel is also being reintroduced and residents have been advised not to visit other people in their homes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/08/local-lockdown-rules-preston-aberdeen-manchester-kirklees-bradford/

 

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9 hours ago, Not Thoth said:

 

The one about someone with no trousers on pissing themselves. I adapted it elsewhere...

 

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Run out of likes for today.. 😞

These things operate on some level that people  fall for, don't  know if it's the pictures or what? They are not organic I can tell that, some team is producing  them.

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