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8 hours ago, Mr H said:

Best way to protect yourself against germs is to get stuck in and get all dirty! 

 

If you shut yourself off you're gonna be more susceptible to them.... like junior grade biology...

 

I agree.
 

I will also add that fear, and walking around suspecting every fellow human being as a potential plague carrier actually suppresses your immune system and makes you far more susceptible to any potential illnesses out there.

 

Fear attracts like energy.

 

The 24/7 fear porn being pumped out by our media and politicians at the moment is for a very good reason.


 

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9 hours ago, Mr H said:

Best way to protect yourself against germs is to get stuck in and get all dirty! 

 

If you shut yourself off you're gonna be more susceptible to them.... like junior grade biology...

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

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Trust the scam:

Positive results from UK single gene PCR testing for SARS-COV-2 may be inconclusive, negative or detecting past infections

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n208/rr-3

 

COVID-19 Story Tip: Beware of False Negatives in Diagnostic Testing of COVID-19

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/covid-19-story-tip-beware-of-false-negatives-in-diagnostic-testing-of-covid-19

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

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Doesnt account for hospital superbugs as a result of overly sterilized areas

 

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5 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Quite frankly its almost a miracle we live as ling as we do considering the massive assaults on our health perpetrated by those unmentionables. Shows how resilient we are nonetheless.

yes it shows how powerful the human body and the immune system really is.

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Vaccine rollout will trigger new Covid variants, Oxford scientist warns, adding ‘new layer of complexity’ to pandemic fight

https://www.rt.com/uk/515824-covid19-vaccines-variants-oxford/

 

This guy seems to pushing the same counter narrative as Bossche.

I personally find it all tripe, there are no variant threats, coz there is no real virus. Its an excuse to explain why the jabs offer no immunity & the need for constant booster shots upgrades.

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30 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

1131-cover01.jpg?itok=uPChNobu

 

 

 

 

 

But living in filth and squaller with poor water supply, poor sewage probably made those times much much worse. If as you said it was made in a lab in Asia,  do you think they would have spent as long perfecting it to be stopped by masks at the first hurdle? 

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31 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

1131-cover01.jpg?itok=uPChNobu

 

 

 

 

 

You kind of skipped from one thing to another there!

 

If you're talking about in a hospital setting, operating on people, people with open wounds, it's logical if you're dealing with these people to have a sterile environment such as your example.

 

On a day to day basis, if you want a strong immune system, it both seems logical that you are accustomed to your environment and there are studies to show that if you are exposed to bacterias and the like at a young age, you're likely to have a more robust immune system.

 

You can also see it through experience. IF you go say to a foreign country, the locals for example can drink the water, they're used to their environment, the microbes the bacteria. But if we went there, we may not be able to drink the water because our immune system hasn't been exposed to that environment and we may fall ill.

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2 minutes ago, GSM said:

But living in filth and squaller with poor water supply, poor sewage probably made those times much much worse. If as you said it was made in a lab in Asia,  do you think they would have spent as long perfecting it to be stopped by masks at the first hurdle? 

Also TS 

 

3 minutes ago, Mr H said:

You kind of skipped from one thing to another there!

 

If you're talking about in a hospital setting, operating on people, people with open wounds, it's logical if you're dealing with these people to have a sterile environment such as your example.

 

On a day to day basis, if you want a strong immune system, it both seems logical that you are accustomed to your environment and there are studies to show that if you are exposed to bacterias and the like at a young age, you're likely to have a more robust immune system.

 

You can also see it through experience. IF you go say to a foreign country, the locals for example can drink the water, they're used to their environment, the microbes the bacteria. But if we went there, we may not be able to drink the water because our immune system hasn't been exposed to that environment and we may fall ill.

It's like the stinging ants that contain poison. If I was to go to the jungle and get stung I would probably end up dying. But those who live there get there kids to put a glove on containing hundreds of them and deliberately sting them from a young age to get a immunity from them resulting in them being fine with them.

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I think the thing is. He Truthspoon is right, in the sense that if you live in a sterlie environment only, then you probably won't get sick.... from this stuff.... the problem is when you go from that environment into the real world where there are bacterias - there's billions of em everywhere, then that person who has only lived in the incubator will get really sick. If you want to live in the real world and survive you need to be accustomed to that environment. And I'm not talking about extremes - going back to the olden days where people don't have any sewage and just shit everywhere. Obviously that is not too good.

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You dont have to be an epidemiologist to tell, antisocial distancing, masks & washing your hands will weaken your immune system & more than likely make you very sick in the longterm.

Will also cause an epidemic of OCD & other mental health issues in children.

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Dickwan said:

Forget germs, but when I first went to China in 1996 I had to wear a mask in public; first day I didn't know and when I arrived I just walked about without one...got back to the hotel at night and I wiped soot off my face. The air was disgusting. I went to Beijing in 2003 and it was the same. Walk around in downtown Mumbai or Kolkota and it will be the same.

 

Masks don't stop pollution.  Respirators do.

 

These zombie face masks everyone are wearing are good for fuck all.

 

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

1131-cover01.jpg?itok=uPChNobu

 

 

 

 

 

I think the best way to move forward is your view is acceptable to you and the the way I think is my opinion I may disagree with yours as you may disagree with mine, but there's no need to get wound up by it. 

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