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31 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

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You kind of skipped from one thing to another there!

 

If you're talking about in a hospital setting, operating on people, people with open wounds, it's logical if you're dealing with these people to have a sterile environment such as your example.

 

On a day to day basis, if you want a strong immune system, it both seems logical that you are accustomed to your environment and there are studies to show that if you are exposed to bacterias and the like at a young age, you're likely to have a more robust immune system.

 

You can also see it through experience. IF you go say to a foreign country, the locals for example can drink the water, they're used to their environment, the microbes the bacteria. But if we went there, we may not be able to drink the water because our immune system hasn't been exposed to that environment and we may fall ill.

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2 minutes ago, GSM said:

But living in filth and squaller with poor water supply, poor sewage probably made those times much much worse. If as you said it was made in a lab in Asia,  do you think they would have spent as long perfecting it to be stopped by masks at the first hurdle? 

Also TS 

 

3 minutes ago, Mr H said:

You kind of skipped from one thing to another there!

 

If you're talking about in a hospital setting, operating on people, people with open wounds, it's logical if you're dealing with these people to have a sterile environment such as your example.

 

On a day to day basis, if you want a strong immune system, it both seems logical that you are accustomed to your environment and there are studies to show that if you are exposed to bacterias and the like at a young age, you're likely to have a more robust immune system.

 

You can also see it through experience. IF you go say to a foreign country, the locals for example can drink the water, they're used to their environment, the microbes the bacteria. But if we went there, we may not be able to drink the water because our immune system hasn't been exposed to that environment and we may fall ill.

It's like the stinging ants that contain poison. If I was to go to the jungle and get stung I would probably end up dying. But those who live there get there kids to put a glove on containing hundreds of them and deliberately sting them from a young age to get a immunity from them resulting in them being fine with them.

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I think the thing is. He Truthspoon is right, in the sense that if you live in a sterlie environment only, then you probably won't get sick.... from this stuff.... the problem is when you go from that environment into the real world where there are bacterias - there's billions of em everywhere, then that person who has only lived in the incubator will get really sick. If you want to live in the real world and survive you need to be accustomed to that environment. And I'm not talking about extremes - going back to the olden days where people don't have any sewage and just shit everywhere. Obviously that is not too good.

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You dont have to be an epidemiologist to tell, antisocial distancing, masks & washing your hands will weaken your immune system & more than likely make you very sick in the longterm.

Will also cause an epidemic of OCD & other mental health issues in children.

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Dickwan said:

Forget germs, but when I first went to China in 1996 I had to wear a mask in public; first day I didn't know and when I arrived I just walked about without one...got back to the hotel at night and I wiped soot off my face. The air was disgusting. I went to Beijing in 2003 and it was the same. Walk around in downtown Mumbai or Kolkota and it will be the same.

 

Masks don't stop pollution.  Respirators do.

 

These zombie face masks everyone are wearing are good for fuck all.

 

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I believe they tried that approach in the middle-ages, it didn't work out too well for them and usually ended in plagues and mass death.

 

The best way to protect yourself from germs is to avoid ingesting them by observing good hygiene. 

 

Have you heard of Florence Nightingale? How she revolutionised nursing care and drastically reduced the number of deaths of wounded soldiers in hospitals simply be observing basic hygiene such as hand-washing and face masks?

 

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/200-years-service-how-florence-nightingale-changed-history-nursing/58396

 

200 Years of Service: How Florence Nightingale changed the history of nursing

The year 2020 marks the bicentenary of the birth of Florence Nightingale, pioneer and founder of modern nursing.

 

 

 

1131-cover01.jpg?itok=uPChNobu

 

 

 

 

 

I think the best way to move forward is your view is acceptable to you and the the way I think is my opinion I may disagree with yours as you may disagree with mine, but there's no need to get wound up by it. 

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34 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Bloody Wancock has created the permanent fake pandemic agency called the UK Health Security Agency. Just what we needed.... 

20 May 2020 — On January 24th 2019, Matt Hancock met Bill Gates at The World Economic Forum to discuss infection control at the global level.
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After watching the news over the last couple of days two things have struck me

1. Covid passports will be here (I'd cards renamed)

2.There going to push mandatory vaccines as all they've been saying is no one's safe until everyone's vaccinated.

I will not have a passport and not willing to be jabbed so will resist for as long as possible.

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7 hours ago, oz93666 said:

is toxic in large amounts , which would not be present  on these swabs .... and it's not as primitive as just killing people 

 

" The ability of ethylene oxide to damage DNA makes it an effective sterilizing agent but also accounts for its cancer-causing activity." 

 

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/substances/ethylene-oxide 

 

Go ahead Ozz. Stick a swab dipped in this stuff several times a week up your nose as far as you can and give it a good wiggle. 

Let us know how you're feeling next year.. 

 

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1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

 

You dont have to be an epidemiologist to tell, antisocial distancing, masks & washing your hands will weaken your immune system & more than likely make you very sick in the longterm.

Will also cause an epidemic of OCD & other mental health issues in children.

 

 

 

 

 

Agree. This is precisely why I touch a lot things when I walk outside. Lamp posts, walls, door handles etc, and if someone's willing to hug me I'm going in for one. 

 

Contrary to the common delusion occurring all around us, I'd like to actually give my immune system some bacteria to learn about so that by this time next year it hasn't forgotten how to work! 

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The revised narrative now is that the new ‘deadly variant’ which is going to wash up on our shores in a third wave, will seek out the unvaccinated, although we were told the ‘vulnerable group’ was eighty years plus and those with underlying health issues.

 

Everyone over fifty years old has been offered or received their jabs, even although they were not prone to any serious illness and could expect mild symptoms or none. The under fifties and children are not an at-risk group at all, according to the “science.”

 

So, the death toll should be negligible, or non-existent by summer, when viruses, supposedly, do not thrive. With the alleged vulnerable groups protected, that should be the end of this bullshit, once and for all, but they just keep spinning it out, indefinitely.

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12 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The circus was back in town then.  Did you see any punters lining up?

 

I was on my bike and just going past. It's hard to tell as the stations are right outside a big cafe and there's usually lots of people hanging around there. There's people watching the buskers too. What I did notice in the Autumn was they opened up the seating area inside the cafe so thecarmy lads could eat inside. The heroes.... 

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