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On the Telegraph, the rest of the article is behind a paywall.  The vaccination programme is zooming along of late, must be a lot of people passing up the chance of getting juiced up.

Exclusive: Vaccines for all over-40s by Easter after ‘bumper boost’ to supplies

By Laura Donnelly, Health Editor and Lucy Fisher, Deputy Political Editor 12 March 2021 • 9:30pm

NHS could offer a million doses a day in coming weeks, as pressure grows on PM to speed up reopening of pubs and restaurants

Everyone over 40 should be offered their first Covid-19 vaccine by Easter, with a “bumper boost” to supplies allowing the programme to rapidly expand next week, The Telegraph can reveal. ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/12/exclusive-vaccines-40s-easter-bumper-boost-supplies/

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2 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Haha... vital importance of knocking down this rubbish...😀

 

i like this one...this is a good one because zbigniew brzrezinski is clearly a conspiracy theorist but because he is one of the conspirators he is lauded whilst we are all mocked

 

He commented that there WAS a shift going on in the world and that it was going to make it harder for the conspirators to pull the wool over peoples eyes:

 

 

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12 minutes ago, perpetual said:

Are we sure about this legally?

 

if you are going to include someone in a medical experiment you must first inform them that it is an experiment and also inform them of any risks involved

 

the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights (Article 6 – Consent), which reads, "Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice" [ http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-

 

If the doctors and nurses have not done that then they are absolutely in breach of nuremburg code but that isn't necessarily equivalent to statue law:

 

The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This
means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent;
should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without
the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching,
or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient
knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved
as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This
latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision
by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature,
duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is
to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected;
and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his
participation in the experiment.

 

https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/2011/04/BMJ_No_7070_Volume_313_The_Nuremberg_Code.pdf

The ten points of the Nuremberg Code

The ten points of the code were given in the section of the verdict entitled "Permissible Medical Experiments":

  1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.
  2. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
  3. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
  4. The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
  5. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
  6. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
  7. Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
  8. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
  9. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
  10. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

well they can try that one in court but the response will be 'ignorance is no defence in the law'

 

doctors and nurses are absolutely INDIVIDUALLY liable for anything they inject into other human beings

 


 

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Are we sure about this legally?

If yes, we'll have to use doctors and nurses as hostage.... I know they will be stuck in the middle but hopefully the majority are working for the humanity. So if you really must must take the vaccine, get the name of the nurse/injector volunteer and tell them that they may be liable in the future. They will more likely to shrug it off and jab you but you've got their information.

 

Like lamp has said, I believe they don't know what's in the vaxx.

 

EDIT: out of likes Captain Mac. Yes, ponzi scheme.

 

 

 

Yes @Macnamara is correct.  Absolutely doctors are responsible/liable. Following orders from higher up just won't cut it I'm afraid.

 

Its known as Malfeasance, under common law.

 

The issue is.. do the doctors/nurses "know" what they are doing is wrong?  I think that excuse won't have any weight as they simply should not be injecting people with a substance they know nothing about and future side effects.

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According the BMA's official guidelines to medical practictioners, GPs etc, I have a condition where the CV19 vaccine should absolutely be "avoided". Their emphasis. And yet, what happened this week. I get one of those calls from the NHS company trying to co-erce everyone into getting the jab.

 

I ignored the call. I don't answer the phone at any time. I expect another call or two, a letter....

 

But the fact is I have written proof that the "vaccine" (which is not a vaccine) should NOT be given to someone with my condition. I can just politely say I don't want the jab, not prepared to take the risk...whatever....but shouldn't something more be done about this?

 

I expect those making the calls and trying to get people to make appointments for jabs don't know all this. But they fucking well should do. 

 

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14 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Yes @Macnamara is correct.  Absolutely doctors are responsible/liable. Following orders from higher up just won't cut it I'm afraid.

 

doctors know that it takes over ten years to get a vaccine to market and that these covid jabs have been rolled out in 8 months

 

Its covered this in the british medical journal....

 

They know that the trials were run side by side and that the human part of the trial was set to take two years which means that the human part of the trial is not yet complete.

 

The government used regulation 174 to wave through the injections as they said it was an emergency and therefore the correct procedures did not apply. This means that everyone being injected right now is part of the stage 3 trial of these covid-jabs

 

Its a giant experiment and the public are not being informed of that by doctors

 

Decision

Conditions of Authorisation for Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine

Updated 9 March 2021

Vaccine BNT162b2 – Conditions of authorisation under Regulation 174 – 2 December 2020, amended on 30 December 2020 and 28 January 2021

This authorisation under Regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 (as amended) is subject to a number of conditions attached under regulation 174A(1) to all the entities involved in the manufacture and supply of this product across the medicines supply chain.

General

  • This temporary Authorisation under Regulation 174 permits the supply of identified COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 batches, based on the safety, quality and efficacy data submitted by Pfizer/BioNTech to MHRA in the period from 1 October to 2 December 2020;
  • This authorisation is not a marketing authorisation;
  • This authorisation applies to supply within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
  • As provided in Regulation 174A(2) of the Human Medicine Regulations the sale or supply of this vaccine will not be deemed authorised if the supply is for the purpose of any use other than the recommended or required use, or if a condition in this authorisation is breached;
  • The entity responsible for physically supplying the product in the United Kingdom is Pfizer Limited (incorporated in England and Wales under registered number 526209). Pfizer Limited and BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH (An der Goldgrube 12, 55131 Mainz, Germany) will be jointly and separately responsible for placing the product on the market in the United Kingdom for the purposes of The Human Medicines Regulations including Reg 345(3) (hereinafter “Pfizer/BioNTech”);
  • Pfizer/BioNTech are jointly and separately responsible, with the manufacturers of the product, for the conditions relating to the manufacture of the product and to product release to the market under the terms of this authorisation;
  • Pfizer/BioNTech is not only responsible for compliance with the conditions expressly applied to it in this authorisation but also, where the conditions apply legislation or guidance that confers responsibilities on marketing authorisation holders, for compliance with any responsibility however worded that applies to a marketing authorisation holder in the applied legislation or guidance;
  • Pfizer/BioNTech must promptly provide to MHRA any further data that is generated by them, or which otherwise come into their possession, which is relevant to the risk / benefit profile of the product;
  • Pfizer/BioNTech must respond in a timely manner to any requests for further supplementary data relating to product;
  • Any deviations from any of these conditions can only be made with the prior agreement of the MHRA;
  • MHRA may review and adjust these conditions for temporary supply in response to any developments which it considers material, including any subsequent market authorisations that might be issued by other medicines regulators;
  • This authorisation will be valid until expressly withdrawn by MHRA or upon issue of a full market authorisation by the MHRA.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/conditions-of-authorisation-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

doctors know that it takes over ten years to get a vaccine to market and that these covid jabs have been rolled out in 8 months

 

Its covered this in the british medical journal....

 

They know that the trials were run side by side and that the human part of the trial was set to take two years which means that the human part of the trial is not yet complete.

 

The government passed a resolution that waved through the injections as they said it was an emergency and therefore the correct procedures did not apply. This means that everyone being injected right now is part of the stage 3 trial of these covid-jabs

 

Its a giant experiment and the public are not being informed of that by doctors

Out of reactions, but bang on.

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3 minutes ago, perpetual said:

I guess we may not be able to go against the vaxx manufacturers because the government waved indemnity but we could go against the injectors for not sticking to their oath. Got it!

 

no as british doctors no longer swear the hippocratic oath. They swear no oath to not do you harm

 

The nuremburg trials ruled that it is no defence to say 'i was following orders'. This means that individuals are individually responsible for their actions. The nuremburg code and Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights state that you must inform people that they are participating in an experiment and also of the risks involved

 

If doctors are not doing that then they are in breach of those

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10 minutes ago, perpetual said:

So if you must take the vaxx for whatever reason, just ask their name and tell them that you are making a note for future.

Forced vaccines, vaccine passports against human rights: Council of Europe

The Council urged governments to 'ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves'
Tue Feb 2, 2021 - 12:57 pm EST
By Michael Haynes
 
The Council of Europe was founded in the wake of the Second World War in 1949, and now numbers 47 European countries, with the U.S, Canada and the Holy See listed as observer states. Its purpose is to “promote democracy and protect human rights and the rule of law in Europe,” and is separate to the European Union. 

The Council oversees the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), and whilst the Council cannot pass its own binding laws, its various members must respect the “the rights and freedoms laid out in the body’s treaties.” The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) is composed of members of the national parliaments of the member states.

In September 2020, PACE began a motion for examination, regarding the issue of COVID-19 vaccinations, and in particular the “ethical, legal and practical considerations.” After parliamentary debate in the assembly, the resolution was passed last week, by a majority of 115 - 2, with 13 abstentions.

The document also adds that full and proper information should be provided, informing potential users about any possible side effects of the vaccine. It states that governments must “distribute transparent information on the safety and possible side effects of vaccines, working with and regulating social media platforms to prevent the spread of misinformation.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/forced-vaccines-vaccine-passports-against-human-rights-council-of-europe?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=45af6d6090-ProFam_2_2_21&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-45af6d6090-408760230&mc_cid=45af6d6090&mc_eid=b407d6f735

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I've decided to admit defeat in trying to wake up the covidians with facts and science....it just doesn't work. Instead I'm going to try reverse psychology in the hope of frying their circuits. I shall support all gov restrictions wholeheartedly, claim that I'm going to get the vaccine and argue that June 21st is far too early to end lockdown. Anything at this stage is worth a try....

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1 hour ago, perpetual said:

 

Are we sure about this legally?

If yes, we'll have to use doctors and nurses as hostage.... I know they will be stuck in the middle but hopefully the majority are working for the humanity. So if you really must must take the vaccine, get the name of the nurse/injector volunteer and tell them that they may be liable in the future. They will more likely to shrug it off and jab you but you've got their information.

 

Like lamp has said, I believe they don't know what's in the vaxx.

 

EDIT: out of likes Captain Mac. Yes, ponzi scheme.

Get yourself a copy of Dr Vernon Colman's book. " Any one who tells you vaccines are safe and effective are lying". He explains exactly what to take with you to receive any jab. You have to get all the relevant information in writing and ask the would be jabber to sign it. You will be politely asked to leave, un-vaccinated. Any thing verbal will not stand up in court. I also remember one of his pod-casts from some time ago when he was on u-tube, he was telling us exactly what must be on the form you ask them to sign.

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

the conspiracy is old (dark occultism is old)

 

bacon wrote a piece called 'new atlantis' which some believe is the secret society networks blueprint for a new empire they wanted to build in the americas

 

but all historic texts should be assessed for bias. If you have two accounts from different sides in a battle you may get drastically different accounts because they are both invested in creating a positive perception of their own sides achievements and goals.

Not quite as old, but Bram Stoker wrote a conspiracy book of sorts called Famous Imposters:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_Impostors

 

Including the Bisley Boy which postulates that Queen Elizabeth I died when staying at Berkeley Castle and was replaced by a local boy. Interestingly, Dracula has been mentioned in a couple of threads recently. I wonder if this Stoker book was disinformation or if he genuinely believed these theories.

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1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

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If only. A lot of people talking about Nurenberg style trials for this load of scum bags. They are not the only ones. French, German, Danish, Australian, you get the picture. If, and I fear that is a very big if, these bunch of bastards should be brought to account for their crimes they will for the large part get away scot free or serve paltry sentences, Just like the Nazi's did after the trials. Their true punishment will be in the next existence. I am not talking fire and brimstone or the wrath of god or that sort of bullshit. If it is not the next it will be the one after that or the next, either way one day they will be brought to account.

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Just a couple of updates in my world recently.

 

As I mentioned before my mum passed away last year and I have recently returned from the UK. One of my jobs while there was to arrange for a headstone for my mums grave. So this past ten days I have been trying to reach the girl who I was arranging this with at her memorials business.  Finally yesterday she gets back to me and apologizes. She told me that she had the vaccine and was very ill for several days. She looks to be around 35. Ive emailed back and asked what her symptoms were...

 

Then I get a call from my cousin who tells me that  more elderly people in her neighbourhood are very ill from the vaccine. Violently sick and diarrhea. Shivering and shaking.

 

Then today here in Canada, I go for a massage and the massage therapist tells me she doesn't want to get the vaccine and is worried that she may be forced to for her work. I gave her all the info I know about the vaccine and by the time I'd finished I was pretty sure she wont get it....judging by the look on her face.

 

Last evening I went to the grocery store - maskless as per.  I go to my two fave stores which seem to ignore that I wear no mask, which is bliss as you can imagine. A cashier, a young guy of about 23 was asked by the woman coming through behind me if she could put her groceries on the conveyor. He said " yea sure"  she said she wasn't sure if he needed to clean it first.  I said to him " If we keep cleaning everything over and over our immune systems wont have anything to work with" and smile at him. He said  " Yea I know...I only do it so I dont get in trouble, its all stupid" .....I said " the world needs to wake up fast" as I was about to leave and he replied " Yea it does".    This made me realize that hidden in our midst are some who can think for themselves... if only we could all recognize each other on sight.

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And those we tried to wake up will applaud our incarceration and glorify those that put us there. They don't care who is wrong or right they just want blood sacrifices to appease the monsters that rule them. If enough of us are incarcerated or killed they stand a chance of returning to the horror show they know as the old normal.

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4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

give it 5-10 years time and he will be replaced in the curriculem by rap albums by Jay Z so as to 'decolonise' literature

 

This will all aid in a dive in the IQ level of school children

My daughter is nearly finished with year 8. Has not been given one book to read by any author since the start of secondary school.hasn’t written one essay. General homework is a few one one word answers.

pluckily I have a large and varied library which she read through her own choice.

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2 hours ago, Outsider said:

I've decided to admit defeat in trying to wake up the covidians with facts and science....it just doesn't work. Instead I'm going to try reverse psychology in the hope of frying their circuits. I shall support all gov restrictions wholeheartedly, claim that I'm going to get the vaccine and argue that June 21st is far too early to end lockdown. Anything at this stage is worth a try....

 

Too right, it's time to stop faffing around with these soft lockdowns and get serious.

 

I say, to flatten the curve, weld their doors and windows up, so they can't get out of their homes, as part of Tier 10 Forever Lockdown.

 

 

To save the NHS, anyone who gets told by NHS Track and Trace to self-isolate gets themselves and their home incinerated.

 

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Also to stop new variants entering the UK anyone arriving from abroad, be it a UK national or illegal refugee is met with a wall of flame.

 

 

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Underground secure bunkers filled with criminals, pedophiles and hypocrites. Watch them go at each other like rabbid dogs after a year. They will revolt and prey on each other. Future generations may uncover them during an archeological dig filled with skeletons that endured severe physical abuse. Signs of insanity all over the site. 

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