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On 3/9/2021 at 10:50 PM, oddsnsods said:

Politics latest news: 'All the modelling' predicts another Covid surge this year, Chris Whitty tells MPs

 

"All the modelling" suggests there will be another surge this year, Professor Chris Whitty has warned MPs. 

The chief medical officer told the science and technology committee that despite the success of the vaccine rollout, some people couldn't or wouldn't have it. There are also some people for whom the vaccine would not be effective, he noted. 

"Even if you have a relatively small proportion of people still remaining vulnerable, that still equates to a very large number" who could be at risk from Covid, Prof Whitty said. 

He added: "All the modelling suggests at some point we will get a surge in the virus. We hope it doesn't happen soon - it might happen later in the summer if we open up gradually, or if there is a seasonal effect it might happen over the next autumn and winter.

"But all the modelling suggests there is going to be a further surge, and when it happens it will find the people who have not been vaccinated or where the vaccine has not worked. Some of them will be hospitalised and sadly some of them will die."

Prof Whitty added: "That is just the reality of the situation... There will be a surge with significant numbers but much fewer deaths."

Opening slowly would buy the country time, he noted, and it was "in my view, not in the models, some degree of seasonality", which meant the surge was likely later on in the year. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/09/news-boris-johnson-schools-covid-lockdown-rules-end-vaccine/

They basically admit, that herd immunity is the only way countries like New Zealand will get infected later.

Which again is common sense & what I and others have said about all these measures people take are totally the opposite to what you should be doing. But then immune system is a conspiracy theory now..

The WHO tell you this!

You cant suppress nature or creation no matter how much you think you are better. Those who put their faith into the covidian cult jab are against nature & will pay the price..eventually getting their  transhumanist never ending hell.

11:13am

New Zealand will see an 'influx of infections' when country reopens, says chief scientific adviser

Countries have adopted a more restrictive quarantine system will "see an influx of infections" when they eventually open up, Sir Patrick Vallance has said. 

The chief scientific adviser told MPs of the science and technology committee that a “very rigorous border system” like New Zealand’s has been effective, but adds “at some point they are going to have to open up their border, and at that point they will see an influx of infections”.

It is on the more "extreme" end of what countries have done, he adds. Quarantine is not sufficient to keep variants out, because they can emerge domestically. 

"I would expect more variants to emerge.. and wherever we are seeing these changes, they look the same. The virus is doing the same things in different ways, acquiring certain mutations it wasn't to acquired - largely for purposes of mutations, as far as we can tell. That is the reason for keeping rates down as low as possible," he adds.

In March 2020, just before putting us under draconian house arrest, St Jacinda told the NZ public that NZ would be seeing 75,000 deaths (Neil Ferg.) Then she proudly boasted that we as a "team of 5 million" have stopped a "wave of devastation."

 

There was a team of experts that disagreed with the so-called 'elimination' strategy for the very fact that herd immunity will not be obtained leaving the population vulnerable when we re-join the world (but of course that's where the vax come into play) but they were widely discriminated against for putting 'profit before people'  

 

https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/  

A balanced response to COVID-19

International health data and experience is showing that New Zealand’s goal of elimination of Sars-Cov2 and use of lockdowns is unnecessary, and even more harmful than the problem we’re trying to solve.

 

Unfortunately the vast majority of NZers still believe that sars-cov-2 is just as deadly as that first SARS in the early 2000s and that hundreds of thousands are really dying of it in other countries like the US and UK; so badly mind controlled they openly denounce and ridicule anyone online who dares say anything other than the official line - such as quoting official stats saying its only killing the old and infirm, let alone add in that flu has disappeared. It's enough to get you shot - as in Chinese Cultural Revolution styles. - Sadly there will be queues of people lining up for the death shot, although there is very little mainstream talk of how the roll out is going - no talk of them jabbing the carehomes, yet, just the front line border workers.

 

I leave this here, with love💕.

 

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3 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

 

Could this "turf war", you described earlier, between AstraZeneca vs Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines be a game of good cop, bad cop?   I highly suspect, those willing to get jabbed across the EU is far less than in the UK which excels in CV-1984 propaganda.  Making one vaccine to appear dangerous and the others by default safe is all part of the pysop to persuade those on the fence that the dangerous vaccine has been weeded out and the others can be taken without risk.

 

Countries should not stop using AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine over fears it causes blood clots as there is no indication this is true, the World Health Organization says.

 

Bulgaria, Denmark and Norway are among the countries that have paused its use.

 

But on Friday a WHO spokeswoman said there was no link between the jab and an increased risk of developing a clot.

 

Margaret Harris said it was an "excellent vaccine" and should continue to be used.

 

Around 5 million Europeans have already received the AstraZeneca jab.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56370636

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42 minutes ago, k_j_evans said:

You can buy online - search for Ziverdo kit and check supplier with somewhere like Pharmacy Reviewer or try India mart for a quote

I meant overall government attitude 😆 I don't want to get stuck here before next wave of absurd and restrictions will hit...

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8 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

That's nowhere near Bill Gates' target!

 

10 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Countries should not stop using AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine over fears it causes blood clots as there is no indication this is true, the World Health Organization says.

 

Bulgaria, Denmark and Norway are among the countries that have paused its use.

 

But on Friday a WHO spokeswoman said there was no link between the jab and an increased risk of developing a clot.

 

Margaret Harris said it was an "excellent vaccine" and should continue to be used.

 

Around 5 million Europeans have already received the AstraZeneca jab.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56370636

Does anyone know the number of Oxford vaccines administered in the UK? From personal experience I'd say around 75% of people I know have had it compared to Pfizer.

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3 minutes ago, Outsider said:

 

Does anyone know the number of Oxford vaccines administered in the UK? From personal experience I'd say around 75% of people I know have had it compared to Pfizer.

Dr Phil Bryan, MHRA vaccines safety lead in the UK, said more than 11 million doses of the Covid-19 AstraZeneca vaccine have now been administered across the UK with no issues.

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/concerned-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-112626865.html

 

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Just now, shadowmoon said:

Dr Phil Bryan, MHRA vaccines safety lead in the UK, said more than 11 million doses of the Covid-19 AstraZeneca vaccine have now been administered across the UK with no issues.

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/concerned-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-112626865.html

 

Many thanks...I still find it strange why one country is using 2 different vaccines to treat the same 'disease' it's an oddly unscientific approach. 

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Just now, Outsider said:

Many thanks...I still find it strange why one country is using 2 different vaccines to treat the same 'disease' it's an oddly unscientific approach. 

If the vaccine programme is being driven by the data a true scientist would always argue that you go with the most effective and discard the less effective one?

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1 minute ago, perpetual said:

But if something were to go wrong and you start growing wings on your face, everywhere on your body....nightmare.


Here's one of the early volunteers....

 

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10 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Roughly you can multiply it by 10... I'm surprised they even recorded these 500 something deaths as vax deaths... 😒

I think your right, I'm seeing large amounts of ambulances on the road on emergency calls.  More than during the first lockdown....

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6 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Many thanks...I still find it strange why one country is using 2 different vaccines to treat the same 'disease' it's an oddly unscientific approach. 

I was reading that when I saw your post.

 

They are just using the population as willing experimental rats imo, tell them to do it & they go and do it,so weird.

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14 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I think your right, I'm seeing large amounts of ambulances on the road on emergency calls.  More than during the first lockdown....

definitely more ambulances about now, they came for my neighbour yesterday, she is 60, had cancer a few years ago, so she would have been 'high risk' category.

I don't know for certain  but I do wonder.?

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18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

i wonder how many people out there who are lining up for the jabs

a) don't realise that they are part of a clinical trial

b) the injection they are receiving is not like a usual vaccine which supposedly works on the principle of giving you a weakened virus to train your immune system to defeat the fullblooded virus

 

I bet most of them think that the injection contains a weakened virus that is helping to train their immune system. I would also bet that the nurse or doctor injecting them will NOT be telling them otherwise

 

Now is that not criminal negligence?

 

Of course they don't know, the types of people who get the vaccine get all their news and info from the MSM who won't tell them the truth about the so called vaccine.

Do you think the nurses and doctors administering the vaccine have any idea what's in it ?? I very much doubt it.

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1 minute ago, shadowmoon said:

definitely more ambulances about now, they came for my neighbour yesterday, she is 60, had cancer a few years ago, so she would have been 'high risk' category.

I don't know for certain  but I do wonder.?

If vaccine is 95% effective they can just shove 5% into another corona cases. But how many lives they just saved... 😈

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5 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

Of course they don't know, the types of people who get the vaccine get all their news and info from the MSM who won't tell them the truth about the so called vaccine.

Do you think the nurses and doctors administering the vaccine have any idea what's in it ?? I very much doubt it.

We don't know too... :D I've heard my vax friend reasoning 'you have choice to get covid or get a jab'. As it was difficult decision - she is before 50, fit and for sure would survive a cold... 

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1 minute ago, Human10 said:

We don't know too... :D I've heard my vax friend reasoning 'you have choice to get covid or get a jab'. As it was difficult decision - she is before 50, fit and for sure would survive a cold... 

A friend of mine said to me she didn't know what to do.

I said to her its made from foetus and chimpanzee cells,which I hope has put her off..

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