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1 hour ago, eddy64 said:

seems a bad batch of az vaccine might cause blood clots more countries stop using it.

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-countries-halt-one-batch-194206193.html

 

Of course anything to do with the quality control of powerful drugs should be cause for concern.

 

Then there's storage and shelf dates to worry about.

 

Then the process of receiving the injection itself.

 

WHO is monitoring this?

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1 hour ago, eddy64 said:

I have my reasons, not gong to go into them though.  btw definitely not going to show anybody my papers to get into a shop or a pub etc.

 

 

as with any medication you have the right to refuse it if you think it will harm you.

 

I took a risk it might bite me in the ass, time will tell.

 

 

 

Hopefully they gave you a placebo and you are safe and well for another year. It is hell of a gamble though. Good luck pal. 

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51 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

So what do you think will happen next in the UK? Cases to increase because of kids being tested 

 

Another lockdown? 

 

 

 

 

Absolute cases will increase with the increased testing but that's a meaningless statistic as regards to the efficacy of any treatment.

 

The more relevant graphs are showing a typical seasonal rise and fall.

 

Mass rollout of a vaccine during the seasonal downturn is disingenuous.

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35 minutes ago, wingwang said:

Updated figures...

 

Pfizer:

 

Total Reactions 94809

 

Fatalities 227

 

AstraZeneca:

 

Total Reactions 201622

 

Fatalities 275

 

Brand Unspecified:

 

Total Reactions 843

 

Fatalities 6

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

 

 

And that's just the officially recognised numbers..

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5 hours ago, Roscommon said:

I agree.
 

I don't wear a mask myself. and have taken lots of stick for doing so.

But could you imagine actually having a physical illness that prevents you from wearing a mask and having to go through the hoops now in place. I'm just glad there is people out there fighting in their corner.
 

Personally I just say "I'm sorry but I'm unable to wear a mask safely" and is this statement is true of everyone I know I'm backed up by the fact that I'm not lying to anyone.

 

Don't bother talking to the clowns, just pull this up to your phone screen and ask them to read it.

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

If you're in the UK then you don't have to pretend anything. 

When challenged all you need to state is that you're exempt. 

No-one is allowed to question or inquiry as to the details. 

 

On the UK government website among the list of reasons for exemption is the phrase - 

" If the mask causes you distress."

 

If you are distressed by the idea of lack of oxygen and build up of CO2... If you're distressed by the possibility of bacterial pneumonia... If you're distressed by the mask in ANY WAY - then you are exempt. 

 

No pretending.. 

 

BC 

 

I know all that, I've read the legislation and guidance, but perhaps without realising it, you're sort of making my point for me.  You're suggesting that I tell them I get distressed, which to me sounds a bit wimpy.

 

Besides which, certain establishments - an example is Morrisons - insist that the exemption should be medical.  I know this because I had this very argument with the security and a duty manager in a Morrison store.  I pointed out to them that the exemption need not be medical.  They didn't believe me.  It's an example of how knowing more than most people can be a disadvantage in certain situations.

 

I do think there is now a prevailing culture that favours weakness and frailty and affords rights to people by inverting the rights of the strong and healthy.  Obviously I have every sympathy with people who have disabilities and mental health issues, or people who are just elderly and suffer because of this, but weakness or disability should not be a badge that you wear and use to go round demanding privileges or submission from the rest of society. 

 

Have you noticed that everybody is dyslexic now.  Or autistic.  Or has some disability.  Or is distressed or traumatised by something.

 

Sorry to have to tell you this but I am not ill, or distressed, or traumatised, or dyslexic or autistic or anything else.  

 

Where are my rights, please?

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1 minute ago, Ergo Storm said:

You're suggesting that I tell them I get distressed, which to me sounds a bit wimpy.

 

No.

I'm suggesting that you state that you are exempt. Full stop. 

 

3 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

Besides which, certain establishments - an example is Morrisons - insist that the exemption should be medical.  I know this because I had this very argument with the security and a duty manager in a Morrison store.  I pointed out to them that the exemption need not be medical.  They didn't believe me.  It's an example of how knowing more than most people can be a disadvantage in certain situations

 

It would seem that you got into a discussion that was not only unnecessary but illegal. 

Exempt is exempt. Full stop. 

 

4 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Sorry to have to tell you this but I am not ill, or distressed, or traumatised, or dyslexic or autistic or anything else.  

 

So people trying to make you wear a mask when you know that you don't need it causes you no stress at all  ?

 

6 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Where are my rights, please?

 

In general....very good question. 

 

BC

 

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3 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

What's coming is really bad guys, really bad. Like uber bad. It's nazi germany all over again.

 

It's hard to have any faith in people any more - they are not waking up.  Waiting for people to wake up is like waiting for Trump to get back in office. It's saddening.

 

There is a line, an imaginary line and once its crossed by the globalist scum, humanity is fucked. Question is has that line already been crossed? Or will people eventually pull together?

 

The only hope we have is that the elite's muscle, i.e. the police and army, wake up to the fact that very soon, they and their families are also going to have their lives trashed by what is being inflicted on us.

At that point, hopefully, they will cross over from the dark side and join the rest of us.

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5 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

It would seem that you got into a discussion that was not only unnecessary but illegal. 

Exempt is exempt. Full stop. 

 

 

I did not tell them I am medically-exempt.  That's the whole point I am making.  I just said 'exempt' and did not willingly get into a discussion.  They forced the discussion on me as I was in their store and because I did not qualify my words in the way they wanted.  To emphasise, I have never worn a face covering and never will.

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2 hours ago, eddy64 said:

I have my reasons, not gong to go into them though.  btw definitely not going to show anybody my papers to get into a shop or a pub etc.

 

 

as with any medication you have the right to refuse it if you think it will harm you.

 

I took a risk it might bite me in the ass, time will tell.

 

 

 

 

You must be fucking mad.

 

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3 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

What's coming is really bad guys, really bad. Like uber bad. It's nazi germany all over again.

 

It's hard to have any faith in people any more - they are not waking up.  Waiting for people to wake up is like waiting for Trump to get back in office. It's saddening.

 

There is a line, an imaginary line and once its crossed by the globalist scum, humanity is fucked. Question is has that line already been crossed? Or will people eventually pull together?

my wife has seen it and experienced the 'blank looks' when she talks to the covid true believers

i.e

her nan died peacefully in her sleep and had a rack of negative covid tests but her aunt read the death certificate and they ticked the covid death box. Some of the family are ummmin and ahhhin and others are raging

 

theres a clear split between those willing to do anything 'to get back to normal' and do not want to deal with the blatant inconsistencies, fraud, lies and corruption. others who know its all manipulation and are willing to fight against these scum.

i even reckon if the BBC announced the whole thing a scam the true believers would still pine for the needle and discount the announcement as disinformation. they are that far gone

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3 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

They forced the discussion on me as I was in their store and because I did not qualify my words in the way they wanted.

 

Then if you have the time and energy you should chase this up.. 

It's discriminatory. 

There are laws in place against this. 

 

5 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

To emphasise, I have never worn a face covering and never will.

 

Cool. 

Me too.. 

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1 hour ago, bamboozooka said:

i thought it was odd, the aussie tennis final, all the spectators in an arena, not distancing and booing when some tennis official mentioned the vax.

i was like who let all them out.

 

It was more what you expect of Ozzies than obeying that Desperate Dan stasi prick.

 

Talking of Dan, hes been in a badway & trying to hide what hes been upto..😂

 

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1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

My wife brought one of these home from work? Where should I shove it?

 

 

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have you kept abreast of the changed situation

 

the flow test is for asymptomatic only

if a school kid tests positive they MUSt then do a PCR test

if the PCR test is negative the schools are being advised to ignore the PCR test

 

heh

 

also the flow test has a QR code which users are required to notify the NHS if positive and asked to if negative

 

how can you spread COVID by breathing but cant perform the test unless you shove the stick almost into your brain. Bizarre logic that true believers do not question

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15 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

I did not tell them I am medically-exempt.  That's the whole point I am making.  I just said 'exempt' and did not willingly get into a discussion.  They forced the discussion on me as I was in their store and because I did not qualify my words in the way they wanted.  To emphasise, I have never worn a face covering and never will.

 

 

I think the fact that our bodies need oxygen and expel carbon dioxide is a medical fact. Restricting someones breathing is a criminal offence last I checked ie strangulation and suffocation to name but two.  Forcing someone to do same to self surely falls into an even wider realm of criminal possibilities... ie holding a gun to someones head. 

 

By saying that medically you are exempt you are stating that you need and want to breathe sufficient oxygen. You don't do well with excess carbon dioxide. It causes you distress to be forced to do things against your will and better judgment, which in turn causes you to get thoughts that would not normally occur...like punching the lights out of anyone who crosses your path and insists that you follow orders that are in violation of your natural human state and conflict with your natural human emotions...

 

I'd say that was medical and psychological reasons for being EXEMPT.....

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9 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

It was more what you expect of Ozzies than obeying that Desperate Dan stasi prick.

 

Talking of Dan, hes been in a badway & trying to hide what hes been upto..😂

 

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He's 'had a fall' - broken ribs and a fractured vertebrae. 

 

No details on the 'fall' 

 

( who pushed him? ) 

BC 

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52 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

You must be fucking mad.

 

I have a good friend here in the UK who is more than aware of the situation. 

He is very much against the vaxxine. 

Unfortunately he is married to a lovely lady who has roots in another country which is a plane ride away. 

They (before 2020) used to flit between countries. 

They want to continue to travel back and forth. 

The vaxxine might end up being the only way they can do this.. 

:0(

 

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1 hour ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

I know all that, I've read the legislation and guidance, but perhaps without realising it, you're sort of making my point for me.  You're suggesting that I tell them I get distressed, which to me sounds a bit wimpy.

 

Besides which, certain establishments - an example is Morrisons - insist that the exemption should be medical.  I know this because I had this very argument with the security and a duty manager in a Morrison store.  I pointed out to them that the exemption need not be medical.  They didn't believe me.  It's an example of how knowing more than most people can be a disadvantage in certain situations.

 

I do think there is now a prevailing culture that favours weakness and frailty and affords rights to people by inverting the rights of the strong and healthy.  Obviously I have every sympathy with people who have disabilities and mental health issues, or people who are just elderly and suffer because of this, but weakness or disability should not be a badge that you wear and use to go round demanding privileges or submission from the rest of society. 

 

Have you noticed that everybody is dyslexic now.  Or autistic.  Or has some disability.  Or is distressed or traumatised by something.

 

Sorry to have to tell you this but I am not ill, or distressed, or traumatised, or dyslexic or autistic or anything else.  

 

Where are my rights, please?

Wearing a mask is a sign that you consent to the ruling class trafficking children and them fucking and killing them. The thought of that causes me distress. I don't consider THAT to be wimpy.

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European countries - including Denmark, Norway, Austria, Italy and Iceland - have suspended use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab after reports of blood clots in vaccinated people.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-blood-clot-reports-in-europe-prompt-investigation-into-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-12242530

 

Professor Anthony Harnden, from the Joint Committee on Vaccinations and Immunisations, told Sky News there is no reason to doubt the safety of the jab in the UK.

 

He added it is already known that COVID can cause "quite severe blood clots".

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