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3 hours ago, Roscommon said:

 

I have to say, the Guards here in rural Ireland have been grand, very few checkpoints and when there is it just looks like they are going through the motions and not really enforcing anything.

It was good to hear that some Cork Guardia refused to set up roadblocks into the city regarding the protest last week.

But this new unit, dressed in black, faces covered, those are a new breed of brainwashed Yes men, ready to crack skulls on the flimsayest of provocations........Best stay away from those Bucks.

 

Dressed in black, faces covered..sounds as though the Black and Tans have come back to Ireland after a gap of exactly a century.

 

Whatever happened to policing through moral force and integrity as the 'Big Fella' intended?

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I have my reasons, not gong to go into them though.  btw definitely not going to show anybody my papers to get into a shop or a pub etc.

 

 

as with any medication you have the right to refuse it if you think it will harm you.

 

I took a risk it might bite me in the ass, time will tell.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Ed8 said:

 

Why?

 

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10 hours ago, Ergo Storm said:

It's just another nail in the coffin of a Bizarro world where I have to pretend to be medically-unfit in some way in order to carry out mundane tasks without covering my face.

 

If you're in the UK then you don't have to pretend anything. 

When challenged all you need to state is that you're exempt. 

No-one is allowed to question or inquiry as to the details. 

 

On the UK government website among the list of reasons for exemption is the phrase - 

" If the mask causes you distress."

 

If you are distressed by the idea of lack of oxygen and build up of CO2... If you're distressed by the possibility of bacterial pneumonia... If you're distressed by the mask in ANY WAY - then you are exempt. 

 

No pretending.. 

 

BC 

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1 hour ago, shadowmoon said:

 

 

I have been trying to find out what is really happening abroad.

I heard someone from Australia say yesterday that they aren't in lockdown as much as we are told by our media..the lack of vaccines from the EU isn't an issue at all

 

Anyone who isn't in the UK how do you see our lockdown and reactions from your media outlets?

Its quite obvious our media is gaslighting us.

My brother who lives there said the exact same thing. We are really being lied to over here. 

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3 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Each state is very different. 

Victoria is by far the worst as far as I know.. 

 

That is true, I should have noted that. Victoria is an entity of its own.. Yikes.

Where he is has been fine. Nothing has changed there at all really, apart from mask wearing in shops. Not much else. 

Still enjoying life as he always did. 

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1 hour ago, eddy64 said:

seems a bad batch of az vaccine might cause blood clots more countries stop using it.

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-countries-halt-one-batch-194206193.html

 

Of course anything to do with the quality control of powerful drugs should be cause for concern.

 

Then there's storage and shelf dates to worry about.

 

Then the process of receiving the injection itself.

 

WHO is monitoring this?

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1 hour ago, eddy64 said:

I have my reasons, not gong to go into them though.  btw definitely not going to show anybody my papers to get into a shop or a pub etc.

 

 

as with any medication you have the right to refuse it if you think it will harm you.

 

I took a risk it might bite me in the ass, time will tell.

 

 

 

Hopefully they gave you a placebo and you are safe and well for another year. It is hell of a gamble though. Good luck pal. 

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51 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

So what do you think will happen next in the UK? Cases to increase because of kids being tested 

 

Another lockdown? 

 

 

 

 

Absolute cases will increase with the increased testing but that's a meaningless statistic as regards to the efficacy of any treatment.

 

The more relevant graphs are showing a typical seasonal rise and fall.

 

Mass rollout of a vaccine during the seasonal downturn is disingenuous.

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35 minutes ago, wingwang said:

Updated figures...

 

Pfizer:

 

Total Reactions 94809

 

Fatalities 227

 

AstraZeneca:

 

Total Reactions 201622

 

Fatalities 275

 

Brand Unspecified:

 

Total Reactions 843

 

Fatalities 6

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

 

 

And that's just the officially recognised numbers..

:0(

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5 hours ago, Roscommon said:

I agree.
 

I don't wear a mask myself. and have taken lots of stick for doing so.

But could you imagine actually having a physical illness that prevents you from wearing a mask and having to go through the hoops now in place. I'm just glad there is people out there fighting in their corner.
 

Personally I just say "I'm sorry but I'm unable to wear a mask safely" and is this statement is true of everyone I know I'm backed up by the fact that I'm not lying to anyone.

 

Don't bother talking to the clowns, just pull this up to your phone screen and ask them to read it.

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

If you're in the UK then you don't have to pretend anything. 

When challenged all you need to state is that you're exempt. 

No-one is allowed to question or inquiry as to the details. 

 

On the UK government website among the list of reasons for exemption is the phrase - 

" If the mask causes you distress."

 

If you are distressed by the idea of lack of oxygen and build up of CO2... If you're distressed by the possibility of bacterial pneumonia... If you're distressed by the mask in ANY WAY - then you are exempt. 

 

No pretending.. 

 

BC 

 

I know all that, I've read the legislation and guidance, but perhaps without realising it, you're sort of making my point for me.  You're suggesting that I tell them I get distressed, which to me sounds a bit wimpy.

 

Besides which, certain establishments - an example is Morrisons - insist that the exemption should be medical.  I know this because I had this very argument with the security and a duty manager in a Morrison store.  I pointed out to them that the exemption need not be medical.  They didn't believe me.  It's an example of how knowing more than most people can be a disadvantage in certain situations.

 

I do think there is now a prevailing culture that favours weakness and frailty and affords rights to people by inverting the rights of the strong and healthy.  Obviously I have every sympathy with people who have disabilities and mental health issues, or people who are just elderly and suffer because of this, but weakness or disability should not be a badge that you wear and use to go round demanding privileges or submission from the rest of society. 

 

Have you noticed that everybody is dyslexic now.  Or autistic.  Or has some disability.  Or is distressed or traumatised by something.

 

Sorry to have to tell you this but I am not ill, or distressed, or traumatised, or dyslexic or autistic or anything else.  

 

Where are my rights, please?

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1 minute ago, Ergo Storm said:

You're suggesting that I tell them I get distressed, which to me sounds a bit wimpy.

 

No.

I'm suggesting that you state that you are exempt. Full stop. 

 

3 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

Besides which, certain establishments - an example is Morrisons - insist that the exemption should be medical.  I know this because I had this very argument with the security and a duty manager in a Morrison store.  I pointed out to them that the exemption need not be medical.  They didn't believe me.  It's an example of how knowing more than most people can be a disadvantage in certain situations

 

It would seem that you got into a discussion that was not only unnecessary but illegal. 

Exempt is exempt. Full stop. 

 

4 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Sorry to have to tell you this but I am not ill, or distressed, or traumatised, or dyslexic or autistic or anything else.  

 

So people trying to make you wear a mask when you know that you don't need it causes you no stress at all  ?

 

6 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

Where are my rights, please?

 

In general....very good question. 

 

BC

 

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3 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

What's coming is really bad guys, really bad. Like uber bad. It's nazi germany all over again.

 

It's hard to have any faith in people any more - they are not waking up.  Waiting for people to wake up is like waiting for Trump to get back in office. It's saddening.

 

There is a line, an imaginary line and once its crossed by the globalist scum, humanity is fucked. Question is has that line already been crossed? Or will people eventually pull together?

 

The only hope we have is that the elite's muscle, i.e. the police and army, wake up to the fact that very soon, they and their families are also going to have their lives trashed by what is being inflicted on us.

At that point, hopefully, they will cross over from the dark side and join the rest of us.

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5 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

It would seem that you got into a discussion that was not only unnecessary but illegal. 

Exempt is exempt. Full stop. 

 

 

I did not tell them I am medically-exempt.  That's the whole point I am making.  I just said 'exempt' and did not willingly get into a discussion.  They forced the discussion on me as I was in their store and because I did not qualify my words in the way they wanted.  To emphasise, I have never worn a face covering and never will.

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2 hours ago, eddy64 said:

I have my reasons, not gong to go into them though.  btw definitely not going to show anybody my papers to get into a shop or a pub etc.

 

 

as with any medication you have the right to refuse it if you think it will harm you.

 

I took a risk it might bite me in the ass, time will tell.

 

 

 

 

You must be fucking mad.

 

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3 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

What's coming is really bad guys, really bad. Like uber bad. It's nazi germany all over again.

 

It's hard to have any faith in people any more - they are not waking up.  Waiting for people to wake up is like waiting for Trump to get back in office. It's saddening.

 

There is a line, an imaginary line and once its crossed by the globalist scum, humanity is fucked. Question is has that line already been crossed? Or will people eventually pull together?

my wife has seen it and experienced the 'blank looks' when she talks to the covid true believers

i.e

her nan died peacefully in her sleep and had a rack of negative covid tests but her aunt read the death certificate and they ticked the covid death box. Some of the family are ummmin and ahhhin and others are raging

 

theres a clear split between those willing to do anything 'to get back to normal' and do not want to deal with the blatant inconsistencies, fraud, lies and corruption. others who know its all manipulation and are willing to fight against these scum.

i even reckon if the BBC announced the whole thing a scam the true believers would still pine for the needle and discount the announcement as disinformation. they are that far gone

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