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5 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Kinda, they can legally kidnap you if they suspect you of being infected. So I would say yes.

 

The BBC reported about kits being left door-to-door for people to do the test themselves and then they are collected after 20 minutes.  If one does not volunteer, does one get snatched or is that the next stage of door step testing where it is not compulsory, but you have to do it?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53361175

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The BBC reported about kits being left door-to-door for people to do the test themselves and then they are collected after 20 minutes.  If one does not volunteer, does one get snatched or is that the next stage of door step testing where it is not compulsory, but you have to do it?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53361175

 

 

Giving your DNA & dooming yourself to more lockdown & getting what in return? ?

 

We have a nation of commie loving sheeple..even Serbia puts us to shame.

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1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Kinda, they can legally kidnap you if they suspect you of being infected. So I would say yes.

 

And take your kids away lets not forget. Kind of sounds like the sort of thing that happened in the last World war but then again what do I know?  I'm just a conspiracy theorist like the rest of the nutters on this site.

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2 minutes ago, Given To Fly said:

here's a response to me on youtube re: vaccines.

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The comments section on youtube really shows you the effect the24/7  fear has had on the masses, and the brainwashed opinions articulated there and on other social media sites are genuinely frightening. Throw in the odd professional shill and it's hard to see where any mass awakening is coming from.

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http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/leicester_2jul.html

 

As Covid-19 disappears off the radar for most of the UK, a reversal into stricter lockdown measures is being imposed on Leicester, in the North of England. Why?

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Covid deaths and "Pillar One" positive tests are now very low in Leicester

Lab confirmed Covid cases for Leicester were yesterday 0. the day before 1, Monday 6, on Sunday 1. These are low numbers and probably around 40% will have no symptoms, for those who do get it, the risk is similar to flu (which is of course significant for older people or those with comorbidities, and little to worry about for the rest).

Additional lockdown measures in Leicester are based on unpublished "Pillar Two" data

The test numbers described above are the so called "pillar one" (hospital lab) tests. The UK government is not organised enough to publish the "pillar twos" - swabs done in car parks, or by mail etc. So the panic in Leicester is based on Secretary of State Matt Hancock's verbal statement that there were 944 cases between 13 June and 26 June. Unfortunately this information is provided without any indication of how many tests were conducted, most probably because the government simply does not know. There was no up-tick in the Pillar One tests* which are published.

Trends in test results are close to meaningless if you do not have the number of tests conducted. This makes Matt Hancock's 944 cases a most unreliable indicator - as the more tests you run, the more cases you will find.

Sample size matters!

If a telephone poll found that 274 people tested positive as Boris Johnson supporters it would be meaningless if you are not told how many people were telephoned. If 1000 people were called that would mean one thing. If the sample size was 10,000 (more likely) it would mean something completely different.

We do not know the sample size for the "Pillar Two" cases.

"Pillar One" test results and mortality numbers both indicate that the epidemic is over

Pillar one tests have been performed at a roughly consistent rate in quality settings (hospital laboratories) and therefore do provide a good indicator. The trend in pillar one cases indicates there is little to worry about (green line in the chart above). To reinforce that impression is the trend in Leicester's Covid deaths, which have declined closely in step with infections (orange) and are now at very low levels (no deaths since 26 June and total of 5 over the seven preceding days

Conclusion: The UK government has proven itself prone to panicking and overreacting and is doing it again. The scientific/medical establishment seems asleep at the wheel in not calling them out on this. Too few are concerned about the consequences of lockdowns.

The madness continues.

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The sampled time period is that of the 27 years from 1993/94 to 2019/20 and, within those years, each Winter/Spring season of 28 weeks – up to Week 20 of the second year. The total mortality for each season is the basis for analysis.

 

None of the following analysis depends upon inferential statistics : it is purely and simply descriptive, using data and graphics that are accessible to anyone. That is the point – the picture is so obvious and uncomplicated that it raises fundamental questions about the current standard of investigative mainstream journalism – even to the point of whether it exists in any recognisable form.

 

rick_hayward_july2020_article_graph3a.jpg

 

Between 1993/94 and 2019/20, the population of England and Wales increased by almost 9 million, or about 18 per cent. Adjusting for population has a critical effect on the comparisons between years, as can be seen in this bar chart, which mirrors to the previous chart, but with the crucial standardisation that presents seasonal deaths as a percentage of the relevant population.

 

It can be seen that during the defined winter/spring period, on average, about 0.55 per cent of the population (c. 5,500 per million) died in England and Wales, with a variation of between 0.64 and 0.48 per cent.

Within this context, it can be immediately seen that the mortality of 2019/20 is not the highest for the 27 years analysed, but instead actually ranks eighth in terms of the percentage of seasonal deaths. This clearly presents a crucially different view of the relative severity of the last season, and, by extension, the impact of the virus.

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 " New Jersey will require people to wear masks outside.  New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy signed an executive order on Wednesday that requires people to wear masks while outside in public."

" Requiring masks outdoors is a step I had hoped we would not have to take. (Ha! Ha! )   By and large, New Jerseyans have been outstanding in their compliance But, unfortunately, we’ve been seeing a backslide in compliance in New Jersey and across our nation. ( The message is Be compliant, bow down and worship the people who are trying to kill you ) 

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In the UK I assume we're around the time now when landlords can start evicting tenants if they are one of those who fell through the cracks of the government pay outs and couldn't pay their rent for 3 or 4 months. This sort of thing isn't being widely covered in the mainstream media unsurprisingly. Anyone have any experience or anecdotal evidence of others going through stuff like that at the moment? I'm curious about how the hell people are managing to keep a roof over their head if they're not in a job where they are furloughed or if they don't qualify for the self employment scheme.  

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"I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it's not."
Those were the final words of a 30-year-old patient who died at Methodist Hospital in San Antonio this week after attending a so-called "COVID party," according to the hospital.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-year-man-dies-attending-covid-party-thinking/story?id=71731414

He didn't say "Oh goodbye everyone, please say  bye to mum and dad and billy the dog etc."
Why does this story just reek of fake news so much?

 

I remember an article in Fortean times long ago where they had a compilation of these types of stories..

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44 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

"I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it's not."
Those were the final words of a 30-year-old patient who died at Methodist Hospital in San Antonio this week after attending a so-called "COVID party," according to the hospital.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-year-man-dies-attending-covid-party-thinking/story?id=71731414

He didn't say "Oh goodbye everyone, please say  bye to mum and dad and billy the dog etc."
Why does this story just reek of fake news so much?

 

I remember an article in Fortean times long ago where they had a compilation of these types of stories..

 

Fuel for the non existent fire - covirtue signallying.

Im sure its already been stated, but I'll repeat anyway:

 

Masks are a pivotal move 

  • masks become mandatory
  • increased restrictions and more random lockdowns
  • people suffering from mask induced hypoxia and more mental trauma
  • more job losses
  • general immunity drops
  • increased mortalities
  • increased doublecounting of mortalities again
  • more fake testing
  • continued blocking of histopathological autopsies
  • fines for non-mask wearers
  • it will be established that risk of death by wearing masks is increased by those in vulnerable groups such as those with co-morbidities!

Enter the blackmail Vaccine

 

Everyone has to continue to wear masks until everyone is vaccinated.

 

Leave no-one behind !

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Doctors, nurses, medical professionals and Research Scientists are being blackmailed into silence under threat of job loss

They are our best hope of making a peaceful stand and they will need public support.

 

Also mass refusal to wear masks - armed with facts re: health risks of wearing asks and how this so called virus suddenly changed character even though it has not been isolated and is suddenly airbourne whcih means that it allways was and that we have all been infected already and therefore all now should have herd immunity.

So called Virus cannot be contained by masks

 

 

it might be pertinent to create a bullet list of useful facts re: masks and vaccines on its own thread so it can be compiled in summarised form for easy reference.

I know that there are threads of that nature already but the information is widespread over the threads making quick reference difficult.

 

 

 

 

 

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