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UK Column have reported today on the 'Guidance for Public Health Officers: Potentially Infectious Persons' as per Schedule 21 of the Coronavirus Act 2020.

 

The link to the guidance is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/899391/Guidance_for_public_health_officers_potentially_infectious_persons.pdf

 

Simon Dolan has commented on Twitter stating that "These Regs give the right to take away from home and detain anyone, including children, for up to 14 days using force if necessary, if they suspect you might be infected".

 

It is the UK equivalent of HR6666 in the States.

 

So unless you live a completely sheltered life shut away from the world and coming into contact with nobody, you could be deemed "potentially infectious" and detained at the whim of the authorities. Unless you have the vaccine of course...

 

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New pneumonia virus

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8508439/Covid-19-pandemic-accelerating-getting-worse-World-Health-Organisation.html

 

https://m.dw.com/en/china-coronavirus-kazakhstan/a-54119985

 

<quote> Chinese officials have warned of a fatal 'unknown pneumonia' with a death rate far higher than that of coronavirus in Kazakhstan. </quote>
 

And plague:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/amp/inner-mongolia-plague-tourists-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

 

 

 

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I ventured out with my wife to a crystal shop which is located within a large garden centre. First time we've gone to anywhere like that in one quite some time and it was a bizarre experience. First policy was they require you to sanitize your hands prior to entering. Not wanting to douse our fingers in toxic chemicals that look like they could strip paint off concrete we said we were allergic and pulled out a pre-prepared bottle of our own non-chemical shit to placate the sanitizing station Nazi. We were prepared for that one, although if they had suggested muzzling up we would have refused that and sodded off. But we weren't prepared for the second policy which is that they require each individual to take a trolley, even if you don't need one. Not per couple or family, every single individual who enters the place has to have a trolley. When I asked them why they said so they can "keep track of who is in here". Then, even though the crystal shop entrance is a mere 5 yards from the main entrance, they asked us to cart our empty trollies around a one way system that takes you right through the garden centre, outside and then back inside, finally arriving at the crystal shop about 10 minutes later where you then have to wait outside due to their "one in, one out" policy.  An utterly bizarre experience which we won't be repeating. You know things are fucked for these small and medium sized businesses when consumers are going to be driven into the online arms of a cunt like Jeff Bezos just to maintain their sanity. 

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1 hour ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

UK Column have reported today on the 'Guidance for Public Health Officers: Potentially Infectious Persons' as per Schedule 21 of the Coronavirus Act 2020.

 

The link to the guidance is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/899391/Guidance_for_public_health_officers_potentially_infectious_persons.pdf

 

Simon Dolan has commented on Twitter stating that "These Regs give the right to take away from home and detain anyone, including children, for up to 14 days using force if necessary, if they suspect you might be infected".

 

It is the UK equivalent of HR6666 in the States.

 

So unless you live a completely sheltered life shut away from the world and coming into contact with nobody, you could be deemed "potentially infectious" and detained at the whim of the authorities. Unless you have the vaccine of course...

 

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Just quickly read through the whole document and only once does it mention covid-19. It mentions coronavirus many times. Therefore any one would be expected by law to comply even if they had a common cold.

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On 7/9/2020 at 6:45 PM, chocomel said:

This headline made me laugh somehow.... For me it makes sense. :classic_biggrin:

 

 

From the article:

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A dozen patients had inflammation of the central nervous system, 10 had brain disease with delirium or psychosis, eight had strokes and a further eight had peripheral nerve problems, mostly diagnosed as Guillain-Barré syndrome, an immune reaction that attacks the nerves and causes paralysis. It is fatal in 5% of cases.

 

They're trying to associate neurological damage with the virus to cover up the side effects of the vaccine. Mass vaccination against swine flu in America in 1976 caused more than 500 cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome. The virus (allegedly) caused 1 death and the vaccine caused 25 deaths.
 

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Swine flu ‘debacle’ of 1976 is recalled

The $137-million program began in early October, but within days reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis but can be fatal.

However, the pandemic, which some experts estimated at the time could infect 50 million to 60 million Americans, never unfolded. Only about 200 cases of swine flu and one death were ultimately reported in the U.S., the CDC said.

More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine; 25 died. No one completely understands the causes of Guillain-Barre, but the condition can develop after a bout with infection or following surgery or vaccination. The federal government paid millions in damages to people or their families.

 

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-apr-27-sci-swine-history27-story.html


There's a CBS documentary on how one woman's life was ruined. The head of the CDC knew the vaccine was dangerous but he ignored the results of the trials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIFnmuiW7I8

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2 hours ago, Number6 said:

 

Lol, why would they be arsed if you were not vaccinated. Their miracle vaccine should protect the person who received the shot from you should it not. What aload of bollocks, its madness, put me back in the Village ffs. 

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That makes perfect sense if that was the true reason for a vaccine!   Not unless there is another motive, for example, to vaccinate everybody with their new generation of vaccines to modify DNA.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Number6 said:

 

Lol, why would they be arsed if you were not vaccinated. Their miracle vaccine should protect the person who received the shot from you should it not. What aload of bollocks, its madness, put me back in the Village ffs. 

 

We have reached a point where 80% of masses' brain is catatonic.....lost a critical thinking faculty as a result of iphone radiation, hypnotised by fakebook and whatsup.....

Just an example, today a neighbour who was wearing a mask said to me "Becareful, it's in the air" *facepalm*

They'll believe anything. I'm thinking...it's probably the best time to kick off the project blue beam....alien invasion...the holographic experience.

People will be dancing in the street........ I'm staying at home and escaping to other dimension as I type this..... so much nicer.

 

 

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"My friends, make no mistake: The greatest threat we face now is not the virus itself," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a speech in Geneva on Thursday. "Rather, it's the lack of leadership and solidarity at the global and national levels."

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/506760-who-director-general-says-that-the-greatest-threat-to

 

Better have a New World Order and global leader then, eh, Tedros?

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The thing is though.... we can look forward to everything going pear-shaped.

You know why? Because there are too many fighting to grab a new position. Not everyone is working together. There are competitions.

When things get tough, they will start to play a dirty trick like black mailing...... see what happened with the 5G deal with China?

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Ah yes. Family gathering tonight and one bloke cousin's husband, who I am quite fond of and who is semi awake asked for my and my dad's opinions on the covid. *WARNING* *WARNING* he thinks it's a bio weapon released from China. 

 

I just said I don't think it is as dangerous as they are making out, and the lockdown is a travesty. Then the usual I know a friend of a friend who died.  He is quite into the conspiracy stuff though, and always going on about the cashless society which him and his wife are quite aware of. My dad mentioned that they have gone quite on China last week or so, and think they have Influence somewhere. And there's a doudgy committee Blair's involved with. 

 

It wasn't unpleasant and I generally kept out of it mainly because I couldn't get a word in edgeways. But when they were discussing the cold war with Russia, and how after that lead us through the space race and  to the technology age from the industrial, what's next I said? AI. He then said I don't think the world is ready. Maybe I am cynical but I think he is wrong i think the majority of people ARE. Hope I am wrong. 

 

My dad also mentioned the failed figures of this bloke, and it was the same models that lead to all those cows being slaughtered 20 odd years back. Do even the semi awake are still in fear of the covid. 

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5 hours ago, AndyJ said:

I ventured out with my wife to a crystal shop which is located within a large garden centre. First time we've gone to anywhere like that in one quite some time and it was a bizarre experience. First policy was they require you to sanitize your hands prior to entering. Not wanting to douse our fingers in toxic chemicals that look like they could strip paint off concrete we said we were allergic and pulled out a pre-prepared bottle of our own non-chemical shit to placate the sanitizing station Nazi. We were prepared for that one, although if they had suggested muzzling up we would have refused that and sodded off. But we weren't prepared for the second policy which is that they require each individual to take a trolley, even if you don't need one. Not per couple or family, every single individual who enters the place has to have a trolley. When I asked them why they said so they can "keep track of who is in here". Then, even though the crystal shop entrance is a mere 5 yards from the main entrance, they asked us to cart our empty trollies around a one way system that takes you right through the garden centre, outside and then back inside, finally arriving at the crystal shop about 10 minutes later where you then have to wait outside due to their "one in, one out" policy.  An utterly bizarre experience which we won't be repeating. You know things are fucked for these small and medium sized businesses when consumers are going to be driven into the online arms of a cunt like Jeff Bezos just to maintain their sanity. 

 

Just avoid such places as many are until the government sees sense and/or admits incompetence. They're panicking already with the data rolling in from the high streets and it won't be long before retail areas are gutted and local councils go bankrupt with business revenue loss/car parking revenue loss etc.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/10/mandatory-face-masks-will-help-britain-go-back-work-boris-johnson/

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Just been reading through the last two pages of posts. First of all, if, Nicola Stalin will stand out side her house and clap me for my 60th birthday today (Saturday) then I will do the same for her next week for her 50th. Don't hold your breath. 

     Interesting post by "Oddsnods on page 131 about S.A.G.E and U.K media creating fear to get the public to comply to government rules. Don't forget our government is not the only one to be manipulated by what ever dark force it is that is controlling this. I am not defending Boris Johnson, Nicola Sturgeon, or any of the others for the way they have fallen for this lie. They are lied to by the few,  who are lied to by even fewer, and so on up the pyramid. It is then the job of government to lie to the many, with out question, or risk losing?????

     Went to Tesco yesterday for Mum ( Friday). No one way system. Very few masks. People not shitting their selves as I walked toward them like they were when all this nonsense started. I feel that people are really starting to realise this is not as bad as we are being told. The majority are not fully awake by a long way, but they are getting there, the second wave will tell. As fluke says in above post the semi awake are still in fear of the covid. As for the second wave, October/November lockdown will finish off the small medium size retailers very nicely. Christmas. Then town and city high streets will be totally fucked. Read post by Andyj on this page.

     Wife spoke to a cousin a couple of days ago she was saying her Dad has started to come round to her way of thinking. He now realises this so called virus is man made and we are being lied to. He is slowly waking up. One more of us, one less of them. Celebrate every small victory my friends.

     A good persuasive argument for those in denial is to ask them if they have seen the film "Erin Brockovich" I should imagine many people called her a conspiracy theorist when she started asking questions of the Pacific gas and electric company.

     Here I am, 10 to 2 Saturday morning, 11th July 2020 , now 60 years old, been drinking rum and coke all night. Wife of 25 years just gone to bed, second marriage for both of us. Still love her to bits and to me she is as @&*%£ as she was 25 years ago.

     I have for a very long time believed there is organisations that are above the law and existed despite what government we had in control. As David calls them "The permanent government". I had heard of David Icke many, many years ago when we watched a documentary about him. He had given a talk in a theatre in Brixton. If memory serves me right he said about 200 people turned up. He went back to the same theatre about a year later and it was a sell out, 2000 people. I remember seeing the first Wogan interview. Lost touch with David for a long time then because of internet and u-tube he was a lot more accessible. I have followed him a lot closer since then and reading books he has written to catch up.

      I have always been interested in any thing unusual, bizarre, strange or different from the normal. Just over 30 years ago I stumbled across spiritualism. When we cast off the physical body our soul/ spirit is dragging around with it we go to a different dimension. There is only death for the physical as we know and understand it. This is the same for all. It matters not whether you have led a good life or been a total bastard to others, and yourself. I do not believe in judgement day or asking god for forgiveness or cast into the fiery pits of hell for all eternity. That crap was used by the clergy from way back to control and frighten people. We all go into another realm of existence of which there is different levels. We all have the choice to progress or not at our own pace. A child who is born to abusive parents has the choice later in life to be the same or become more empathic toward others, and break the chain of abuse.

     My dear friends, trust me when I say the day will come when those responsible for all the evil from the past and in the future will be very sorry for what they have done to others now and in the past. They will also apologise to those they are and have misguided for there own benefit. We all have free will, stick a knife in your guts or say i love you.

     Good night people and may your god be with you XX.

           

      

   

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Crisis actor pushing phase 2 agitprop in Melbourne.

Ahmed Hassan (on channel 7 news) has tested positive for covAIDS, and tells his incredible story:

'faced the full brunt of covid-19'

'within hours of feeling the symptoms was in an emergency ward'

'it was very difficult, and was quite unbearable'

'I got it off my father, the environment had covid already all over it'

'Ive become a victim of covid *bullshit* and I dont want anyone to go through that'

-how are you feeling today? 'I feel much better' :classic_rolleyes:

 etc.

 

 

Turns out that this isn't some random at all:

 

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Neil Pascoe and Fanos Panayides on FB have a vid with more:

 

 

 

 

 

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This anonymous statement from an A&E Consultant has been doing the rounds on social media.

 

https://davidicke.com/2020/07/11/nhs-consultant-on-the-truth-behind-the-covid-pandemic/

‘NHS consultant’ on the truth behind the ‘Covid pandemic’

I am a consultant at a major, regional hospital in Surrey. By major you can take that to indicate that we have an A&E department. I had agreed to give an interview to an anti lockdown activist in which I would have revealed my identity. I have since changed my mind and only feel able to give an anonymous statement. 

 

I have changed my mind simply because that all staff , no matter what grade, at all hospitals have been warned that if they give any media interviews at all or make any statements to either the Main Stream Press or smaller, independent press/social media we may immediately be suspended without pay. I have a family, dependents and I simply can’t do it to them. I therefore cannot reveal my identity at this time but wish to state as follows:

 

In my opinion, and that of many of my colleagues, there has been no Covid Pandemic, certainly not in the Surrey region and I have heard from other colleagues this picture is the same throughout the country. Our hospital would normally expect to see around 350,000 outpatients a year. Around 95,000 patients are admitted to hospital in a normal year and we would expect to see around a similar figure, perhaps 100,000 patients pass through our A&E department. In the months from March to June (inclusive) we would normally expect to see 100,000 outpatients, around 30,000 patients admitted to hospital and perhaps 30,000 pass through A&E. This year (and these figures are almost impossible to get hold of) we are over 95% down on all those numbers. In effect, the hospital has been pretty much empty for that entire period.

 

At the start, staff that questioned this were told that we were being used as ‘redundant’ capacity, kept back for the ‘deluge’ we were told would come. It never did come, and when staff began to question this, comments like, ‘for the greater good’ and to ‘protect the NHS’ came down from above. Now it’s just along the lines of, ‘Shut up or you don’t get paid’. 

 

The few Covid cases that we have had get repeatedly tested, and every single test counted as a new case. Meaning the figures reported back to ONS/PHE (Office for National Statistics & Public Health England) were almost exponentially inflated. It could be that Covid cases reported by hospitals are between 5 to 10x higher than the real number of cases. There has been no pandemic and this goes a long way to explain why figures for the UK are so much higher than anywhere else in Europe.

 

The trust has been running empty ambulances during lockdown and is still doing it now. By this I mean ambulances are driving around, with their emergency alert systems active (sirens & / or lights) with no job to go to. This I believe has been to give the impression to the public that there is more demand for ambulances than there actually is. Staff only wear face coverings/masks & social distance when public facing, as soon as they are out of public view, the masks come off and social distancing is not observed. Indeed jokes are made about the measures, and I have heard staff express amazement that despite warnings on packets and at point of sales, telling people masks are totally ineffective and dangerous, the public still buy them, because a politician has told them too.

 

We have cancelled the vast majority of operations and of these ALL elective surgery has been cancelled. That’s surgery that has been pre planned/waiting list. Non elective surgery, this tends to be emergency surgery or that which is deemed urgent has been severely curtailed. The outcome of this is simple. People are at best being denied basic medical care and at worst being left to die, in some cases in much distress and pain.

 

Regarding death certification. All staff that are responsible for this have been encouraged where possible to put Covid-19 complications as reason for death, even though the patient may have been asymptomatic and also not even tested for Covid. I feel this simply amounts to fraudulently completed death certificates and has been responsible to grossly inflating the number of Covid deaths. 

 

The fact is that regardless of what you actually die of in hospital, it is likely that Covid-19 will feature on your death certificate. I have included with my statement the detailed published guidance from Government on Death Certification which shows how Covid-19, as a factor is encouraged to at least feature on a death certificate. Remember Covid-19 itself cannot kill. What kills is complications from the virus, typically pneumonia like symptoms. These complications are in reality incredibly rare but have featured and a large amount of death certificates issued in recent months. As long as Covid-19 appears on a death certificate, that death is counted as Covid-19 in the figures released by the ONS and PHE. I genuinely believe that many death certificates, especially amongst the older 65+ demographic have been fraudulently completed so as to be counted as Covid-19 deaths when in reality Covid-19 complications did not cause the death.

 

There have been Thursday nights when I stood, alone in my office and cried as I heard people cheering and clapping outside. It sickens me to see all the ‘Thank You NHS’ signs up everywhere and the stolen rainbow that for me now says one word and word only; Fear.

 

There are many good people in the NHS and whilst I do not plead forgiveness for myself, I do plead for them. Most are on low pay, they joined for the right reasons and I did and have been bullied and threatened that if they don’t ‘stay on message’ they don’t eat. I know that if a way could be found to assure staff within the NHS of safety against reprisals, there would be a tsunami of whistleblowers which I have no doubt would help end this complete and brutal insanity. 

 

I am finding it increasingly hard to live with what I have been involved in and I am sorry this has happened. To end, I would simply say this. Politicians haven’t changed, the country has just made a fatal mistake and started trusting them without question.

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11 hours ago, serpentine said:

They're panicking already with the data rolling in from the high streets and it won't be long before retail areas are gutted and local councils go bankrupt with business revenue loss/car parking revenue loss etc

 

If local authorities cash in their investments, saudi and China will be purchasing the securities at cut price rates.

Eventually the UK will be at default point and then social credits start

 

 

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Apologies if this has been shared already.

 

Royal Society President Says Mask Refusniks Should be Publicly Shamed Like Drunk Drivers

https://summit.news/2020/07/07/royal-society-president-says-mask-refusniks-should-be-publicly-shamed-like-drunk-drivers

Not sure where the saying comes from but ‘a lion doesn’t lose sleep over the opinion of sheep’

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