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42 minutes ago, Outsider said:

From today's Guardian....

 

Senior doctors are braced for up to a million people needing treatment for long Covid after the pandemic, putting huge extra pressure on an already overstretched NHS, the Guardian can reveal.

Long Covid is a significant problem affecting huge numbers of patients that will confront the NHS for many years to come, one of the service’s expert advisers on the fast-emerging condition said.

 

Signs are already emerging that the health service is having trouble keeping up with the demand for care created by the sheer number of patients who are still displaying symptoms such as exhaustion, brain fog, chest pains and breathing problems months after having Covid.

 

Seems to be more likely symptoms of wearing masks?

Or electro-smog

 

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Some images of today's demonstration in London (not taken by me personally).                

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30 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

This vid made me feel quite sick, I would never trust Israel, the only one who told the the truth was  Rabbi Alon Anava who talks at the end of the vid. I must look him up.

Prophecy is certainly coming to be.

Its not prophecy it's the religion of judaism and world jewry which made this come about.

 

Conquering/controlling the nations, running the world from jerusalem etc. All encouraged in the jewish religion.

 

More like a plan than a prophecy, a guidebook on controlling the world.

 

 

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"Possibly the intention is complete societal breakdown while the elite retreat to their bunkers possibly in a far off country..only emerging when the leftover population is much smaller and easy to control. "

Personally I don't think these people have any control. I view it as hysterical association as happened during the witch trials. Sure, there are those who manipulate the fear to gain some advantage. The majority are merely suffering mass delusional hysteria. We have seen this before in history. 

I may well take the plunge and buy gold. I am getting very uneasy over being locked out of citizenship due to increased digitalisation. I already had to get legal assistance to access one bank account as my existing I.D. was rejected by the bank. Nothing was accepted. Hundreds reported the same issue and indeed violent arguments have erupted in the same bank. My money. End of story. I want it safe because not sure how the future may develop. Of course, maybe the hysteria will die out. In that latter case our gold will fall somewhat in value. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

"Possibly the intention is complete societal breakdown while the elite retreat to their bunkers possibly in a far off country..only emerging when the leftover population is much smaller and easy to control. "

Personally I don't think these people have any control. I view it as hysterical association as happened during the witch trials. Sure, there are those who manipulate the fear to gain some advantage. The majority are merely suffering mass delusional hysteria. We have seen this before in history. 

I may well take the plunge and buy gold. I am getting very uneasy over being locked out of citizenship due to increased digitalisation. I already had to get legal assistance to access one bank account as my existing I.D. was rejected by the bank. Nothing was accepted. Hundreds reported the same issue and indeed violent arguments have erupted in the same bank. My money. End of story. I want it safe because not sure how the future may develop. Of course, maybe the hysteria will die out. In that latter case our gold will fall somewhat in value. 

 

 

 

I think gold or silver is going to be far safer than cash. Hyperinflation is inevitable....the plebs fear of a virus will disappear when confronted with the very real threat of losing their life's savings.

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"Third, a collective delusion is more likely to take hold if the group is undergoing some kind of distress. This could be rising unemployment, political destabilization or an enemy’s threats of warfare. On a smaller scale, a town may lose a crucial employer, or a fire-and-brimstone minister can instigate a satanic panic with rumors of baby-killing cults.

And fourth, the stressors are potent enough to trigger, in at least some individuals, either a psychosomatic response or scapegoating behavior. Psychosomatic reactions – physical symptoms with psychological causes – may be as mild as itching or as severe as blindness. Scapegoating involves blaming a group of innocent (or possibly nonexistent) others for causing problems – psychosomatic or otherwise.

When conditions are ripe, this catalyzing subset of group members sets off a chain reaction. They begin to seek and identify external causes for their distress, or sources for its relief. Psychosomatic responses spread; contempt for the scapegoats grows. People become hypervigilant and toss critical thinking out the window, looking for and finding imagined threats. Conspiracy theories are spawned, angels and demons invoked, fears stoked, panic induced. The supernatural may start to seem natural.

As more and more group members become ensnared in a positive feedback loop, the perceived threat is legitimized, only broadening and deepening social distress further. Because they are inherently newsworthy, mass delusions are picked up by mass media, which fan the flames even more. "

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35 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

I may well take the plunge and buy gold.

 Of course, maybe the hysteria will die out. In that latter case our gold will fall somewhat in value.

 

Russia and china have been buying gold for a long time so they obviously intend the future currency to be a gold backed currency

 

Private gold ownership is only really for people with lots of currency which they want to convert into a safe store of value. I wouldn't own certificates though or keep anything in the banks where it can be ceased.

 

If you don't have much currency then silver coins are a better option and they can also be used more easily in a black market economy where you can buy some vegetables and some meat from a local farmer for a silver coin. A gold coin is not practical as they are all worth hundreds of pounds and you are not going to want to exchange one of those for a bag of tatties and carrots

 

Don't worry about price fluctuations as that is only the value of fiat currency changing. Gold and silver will ALWAYS have value and can always be traded. Its fiat currencies that have always historically gone to zero

 

For a history of money watch Bill Stills documentary 'the money masters' (this is essential intro level viewing imo)

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10 hours ago, Brad the lad said:

 

Our future toilet paper in case you run out-

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Queen only has her mug on our lowest note here.... $5. I guess it’s so even the poorer people are reminded that she’s supposed to be something. You guys will probably be seeing Charles’ moosh soon. I reckon Philip has been embalmed cos he was starting to stink, though Covid won’t be his cause of death cos the vax has to be seen as working.

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2 hours ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Its not prophecy it's the religion of judaism and world jewry which made this come about.

 

Conquering/controlling the nations, running the world from jerusalem etc. All encouraged in the jewish religion.

 

More like a plan than a prophecy, a guidebook on controlling the world.

 

 

Thanks!

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

Russia and china have been buying gold for a long time so they obviously intend the future currency to be a gold backed currency

 

Private gold ownership is only really for people with lots of currency which they want to convert into a safe store of value. I wouldn't own certificates though or keep anything in the banks where it can be ceased.

 

If you don't have much currency then silver coins are a better option and they can also be used more easily in a black market economy where you can buy some vegetables and some meat from a local farmer for a silver coin. A gold coin is not practical as they are all worth hundreds of pounds and you are not going to want to exchange one of those for a bag of tatties and carrots

 

Don't worry about price fluctuations as that is only the value of fiat currency changing. Gold and silver will ALWAYS have value and can always be traded. Its fiat currencies that have always historically gone to zero

 

For a history of money watch Bill Stills documentary 'the money masters' (this is essential intro level viewing imo)

Skills are the gold of a post pandemic (even while fake the outcome could be the same) world. If you have skills people will hand over whatever gold they have. 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

If you don't have much currency then silver coins are a better option and they can also be used more easily in a black market economy where you can buy some vegetables and some meat from a local farmer for a silver coin. A gold coin is not practical as they are all worth hundreds of pounds and you are not going to want to exchange one of those for a bag of tatties and carrots

Fuck me, you'd run out of coins pretty quick if that's all you're getting for a coin. This is why I don't think this is tangible to a degree. Larger items yes, but basics like that? That's not a fair trade and would expect a larger haul than a bag of tatties and carrots for a coin. I just don't know what to do, but I think I need to move quickly. 

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4 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Very good point. However, if they do that they run the risk that we as the masses don't just wipe each other out – maybe we just start enjoying the free life without them. Then they might come out of their bunkers one day to a nasty surprise... i..e a well functioning human society who doesn't require any evil overlord psychopaths.

A society where love, empathy, understanding, wisdom, peace and people living with each other in harmony with their selves and nature. A world where we work together to provide physical and spiritual sustenance for each other. I am a little disappointed tonight to see posts by some praising the ownership of gold and silver in later posts. I think it is in the Christian bible some where " Money is the root of all evil". No one ant gets more food for taking back to the nest more than the other ant. The same can be said of bees returning to the hive, one more retuning to the hive with more pollen than the other.. If the nasty surprise spoken about by DarianF should ever come to pass the last thing the human race would need is some one saying " Do as I say because I have more gold than you do". That is how we have gotten into this mess in the first place and things would slowly but surely return to how we are now.

    There is a lot to be said for the theory of communism. Sadly, it has never come to be. " All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". I believe from Orwell's animal farm. I has also been suggested on here tonight, the possibility that Boris Johnson and many others are already safe in some under ground bunker some where. In a world of infinite possibilities, to quote David Icke, who's to say this isn't possible. To take it a step further who can prove Boris Johnson is human and not a n A.I robot. The same question can apply to Matt Hancock and many others. Is it not possible that any one individual's reality is what they perceive through their five senses at any one time. If you can not see your car, garden out side of your home because the curtains are closed, how do you know they exist. How is it possible to know any thing exists if you can not see, hear, touch, taste or smell it. Welcome to the illusion we are possibly living in. Off topic I know and apologise for. Good night dear friends. Always good to converse with others who are like minded and open to all possibilities. Who ever he/she/it is may, your god be with you.

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23 hours ago, skitzorat said:

You don't "catch" autism, neither can it be "cured" its not an infectious disease. Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a developmental disorder that affects communication, social skills and behaviour. It is controversial but it has been linked to childhood vaccines, specifically MMR, although mainstream science "debunks" this, of course, but not really something that just "happens" overnight, although parents with vaccine damaged children would dispute this.

 

Typically signs that a child is not meeting certain "goals" and start developing certain "traits" commonly associated with the disorder - which has a vast spectrum of functionality - and then specialist Drs would make a diagnosis after a huge amount of observation and study, its not something you can get a blood test for. More common in boys than girls, yet a friend of mine was recently diagnosed with Aspergers (high functioning) and she's 36. Behavioural therapies, early intervention and medications have shown to assist the sufferer with living a more rewarding and easier life.

 

I'm not dismissing the idea that people may start to show signs of obvious brain damage from this shot (no doubt they will) and they may even start developing traits commonly associated with autism (difficulty with communication, difficulty with social interactions, obsessive interests and repetitive behaviours,) but it will take years for a diagnosis s to be confirmed and , of course, will never attributed to the shot.

 

That's what we're taught in this '5 sense' reality. But I'm saying there could be alot more to it. 

 

But yes overall agree it's unlikely the vaccine will make people 'autistic' however may certainly transfer traits connected to this type of personality. Such cases have in fact been reported in America.

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17 minutes ago, banjo dog said:

A society where love, empathy, understanding, wisdom, peace and people living with each other in harmony with their selves and nature. A world where we work together to provide physical and spiritual sustenance for each other. I am a little disappointed tonight to see posts by some praising the ownership of gold and silver in later posts. I think it is in the Christian bible some where " Money is the root of all evil". No one ant gets more food for taking back to the nest more than the other ant. The same can be said of bees returning to the hive, one more retuning to the hive with more pollen than the other.. If the nasty surprise spoken about by DarianF should ever come to pass the last thing the human race would need is some one saying " Do as I say because I have more gold than you do". That is how we have gotten into this mess in the first place and things would slowly but surely return to how we are now.

    There is a lot to be said for the theory of communism. Sadly, it has never come to be. " All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". I believe from Orwell's animal farm. I has also been suggested on here tonight, the possibility that Boris Johnson and many others are already safe in some under ground bunker some where. In a world of infinite possibilities, to quote David Icke, who's to say this isn't possible. To take it a step further who can prove Boris Johnson is human and not a n A.I robot. The same question can apply to Matt Hancock and many others. Is it not possible that any one individual's reality is what they perceive through their five senses at any one time. If you can not see your car, garden out side of your home because the curtains are closed, how do you know they exist. How is it possible to know any thing exists if you can not see, hear, touch, taste or smell it. Welcome to the illusion we are possibly living in. Off topic I know and apologise for. Good night dear friends. Always good to converse with others who are like minded and open to all possibilities. Who ever he/she/it is may, your god be with you.

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53 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Fuck me, you'd run out of coins pretty quick if that's all you're getting for a coin. This is why I don't think this is tangible to a degree. Larger items yes, but basics like that? That's not a fair trade and would expect a larger haul than a bag of tatties and carrots for a coin. I just don't know what to do, but I think I need to move quickly. 

 

that's my point that a gold coin is worth too much for groceries but silver coins can be used to buy groceries

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The sooner the world moves to a non money format the better. It's only a way of trapiping people to debt to then do as there told. Last time I checked everything you need to make stuff is here on earth. It doesn't take money to dig up materials to make things with, it's just someones time required. With cooperation through everyone there's no need to pay for something. Imagine no one needing to steal to make ends meet, almost all crime would be gone. You could still have society making clothes, harvesting food etc etc. People would still do these things rather than do nothing. Imagine how advanced you would get with everyone having time to discuss ideas for the betterment of everyone. No one saying we can't do this or that cos who and how someones gonna have to pay for it. More importantly it strips the dics running things of all the power they hold over the rest

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