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2 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

Shouldn't put banners anywhere near junctions and other road signs but a "Free the Covid 19"  message on one might work well  in a weird psychological way.

 

And of course, check your spelling...

 

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Travellers have long been requested to have vaccines for travelling to many countries around the world but giving in to this blackmail once will ensure a new vaccination for any and every newly discovered variant of a seasonal coronavirus.

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In my life government has ruined everything for me. It has done nothing but take from me and never given me a thing. The government is the biggest problem in my life by a large margin. 

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The slippery slope, a Digital Green Pass/Vaccine Passport/Freedom Passport to be shown if you have been vaccinated or had the pre-travel test to go to Benidorm for a piss up, however that all depends on UK infection rates and the vaccine rollout in Europe.

 

 

Britain is set to be INCLUDED in the EU's vaccine passport scheme in sign of hope for summer holidays on the continent

  • European Union said its 'vaccine passports' scheme could be opened up to UK 
  • Ursula von der Leyen announced plans for 'Digital Green Pass' to kick-start travel
  • Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK was in discussions with Brussels

By DAVID CHURCHILL and JAMES FRANEY FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 23:09, 1 March 2021 | UPDATED: 10:42, 2 March 2021

Hopes of foreign summer holidays were given a boost last night after the European Union said its 'vaccine passports' scheme could be opened up to the UK.

European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen announced plans for a so-called 'Digital Green Pass' to kick-start travel.

It could come into force as early as June and the idea would be to open it up to non-EU countries to unlock the continent's beaches and resorts in time for the lucrative summer season.

Last night Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK was in discussions with Brussels and he believed the plan also included facilitating travel for non-vaccinated tourists who can show proof of a recent negative test.

It came as Spain revealed it has opened side-talks with British officials and Greece said its proposal with the UK included welcoming non-vaccinated tourists who can show proof of a negative test.

Several EU countries have been calling for a relaxation of travel restrictions to boost their Covid-ravaged economies.

Announcing the measures yesterday, Mrs von der Leyen said the 'vaccine passports' scheme would aim to open up travel within the bloc first, raising the prospect of Europeans booking up hotels and resorts before Britons get the chance to join it.

She said: 'The Digital Green Pass should facilitate Europeans' lives. The aim is to gradually enable them to move safely in the EU or abroad for work or tourism.' 

But crucially, her chief spokesman added: 'We're of the view that in collaboration with the World Health Organisation, there should be a way to scale this up globally.'

A source close to the European Commission chief said Britons were 'always welcome', adding: 'As long as you meet all of the conditions and standards.'

It is understood the number of Covid infections in Britain will have to continue falling before the scheme is extended to the UK, but the comments will offer a glimmer of hope to lockdown-weary Britons desperate for a break abroad.

Boris Johnson's spokesman said: 'The Department for Transport will work and speak to countries across the world in terms of how they may look to introduce passports.' 

And at last night's Downing Street press briefing, Mr Hancock said: 'We are working with international partners. The EU is part of those discussions, as are several other countries around the world, and it's obviously important work.

'In a sense, this already exists because you need to have a test before you can travel to the UK and, as far as I understand it from the details set out today, the EU proposal is that certification includes both whether you've had the vaccine and also whether you've recently had a test for those who can't get vaccinated yet.

'Therefore it's something that we're working with them and others on and it matters that we get the details of this right for international travel.'

However, England's deputy chief medical officer Professor Jonathan Van-Tam urged caution, saying there is still 'great uncertainty' over the prospects for foreign holidays this summer.

He said Europe's slow rollout of the vaccine could scupper hopes of holidays there, adding: 'We are still in a zone of great uncertainty about what the virus will do next. On top of that, many of the vaccination programmes in Europe – which is a place where we frequently go on holiday abroad – are running behind ours.'

The European Commission will unveil its final proposals for its bloc-wide 'vaccine passports' scheme on March 17, with EU leaders set to discuss them at a summit in Brussels a week later.

The timing coincides with Britain's own roadmap for easing travel restrictions, with a taskforce led by the Department for Transport set to report to the Prime Minister on April 12 about when international travel could re-start. Under the roadmap it can be no earlier than May 17.

Spain, where 18 million Britons holidayed every year before the pandemic, yesterday seized on Mrs von der Leyen's announcement, with tourism minister Maria Reyes Maroto calling on Brussels to accelerate the plans. 

She urged Eurocrats to avoid 'prohibiting the movement of travellers within the internal market and also with third countries', in a thinly veiled call for British holidaymakers to be allowed to join the passports scheme.

Pedro Siza Vieira, Portugal's economy minister, said it was 'important' for EU countries to pile pressure on Brussels to reopen travel. But Belgium said it did not like the passport plans because it could lead to discrimination.

Foreign minister Sophie Wilmes said: 'For Belgium, there is no question of linking vaccination to the freedom of movement around Europe.'

Full story at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9314633/EUs-vaccine-passports-offer-hope-holidays.html

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28 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

The slippery slope, a Digital Green Pass/Vaccine Passport/Freedom Passport to be shown if you have been vaccinated or had the pre-travel test to go to Benidorm for a piss up, however that all depends on UK infection rates and the vaccine rollout in Europe.

 

 

Britain is set to be INCLUDED in the EU's vaccine passport scheme in sign of hope for summer holidays on the continent

  • European Union said its 'vaccine passports' scheme could be opened up to UK 
  • Ursula von der Leyen announced plans for 'Digital Green Pass' to kick-start travel
  • Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK was in discussions with Brussels

By DAVID CHURCHILL and JAMES FRANEY FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 23:09, 1 March 2021 | UPDATED: 10:42, 2 March 2021

Hopes of foreign summer holidays were given a boost last night after the European Union said its 'vaccine passports' scheme could be opened up to the UK.

European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen announced plans for a so-called 'Digital Green Pass' to kick-start travel.

It could come into force as early as June and the idea would be to open it up to non-EU countries to unlock the continent's beaches and resorts in time for the lucrative summer season.

Last night Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK was in discussions with Brussels and he believed the plan also included facilitating travel for non-vaccinated tourists who can show proof of a recent negative test.

It came as Spain revealed it has opened side-talks with British officials and Greece said its proposal with the UK included welcoming non-vaccinated tourists who can show proof of a negative test.

Several EU countries have been calling for a relaxation of travel restrictions to boost their Covid-ravaged economies.

Announcing the measures yesterday, Mrs von der Leyen said the 'vaccine passports' scheme would aim to open up travel within the bloc first, raising the prospect of Europeans booking up hotels and resorts before Britons get the chance to join it.

She said: 'The Digital Green Pass should facilitate Europeans' lives. The aim is to gradually enable them to move safely in the EU or abroad for work or tourism.' 

But crucially, her chief spokesman added: 'We're of the view that in collaboration with the World Health Organisation, there should be a way to scale this up globally.'

A source close to the European Commission chief said Britons were 'always welcome', adding: 'As long as you meet all of the conditions and standards.'

It is understood the number of Covid infections in Britain will have to continue falling before the scheme is extended to the UK, but the comments will offer a glimmer of hope to lockdown-weary Britons desperate for a break abroad.

Boris Johnson's spokesman said: 'The Department for Transport will work and speak to countries across the world in terms of how they may look to introduce passports.' 

And at last night's Downing Street press briefing, Mr Hancock said: 'We are working with international partners. The EU is part of those discussions, as are several other countries around the world, and it's obviously important work.

'In a sense, this already exists because you need to have a test before you can travel to the UK and, as far as I understand it from the details set out today, the EU proposal is that certification includes both whether you've had the vaccine and also whether you've recently had a test for those who can't get vaccinated yet.

'Therefore it's something that we're working with them and others on and it matters that we get the details of this right for international travel.'

However, England's deputy chief medical officer Professor Jonathan Van-Tam urged caution, saying there is still 'great uncertainty' over the prospects for foreign holidays this summer.

He said Europe's slow rollout of the vaccine could scupper hopes of holidays there, adding: 'We are still in a zone of great uncertainty about what the virus will do next. On top of that, many of the vaccination programmes in Europe – which is a place where we frequently go on holiday abroad – are running behind ours.'

The European Commission will unveil its final proposals for its bloc-wide 'vaccine passports' scheme on March 17, with EU leaders set to discuss them at a summit in Brussels a week later.

The timing coincides with Britain's own roadmap for easing travel restrictions, with a taskforce led by the Department for Transport set to report to the Prime Minister on April 12 about when international travel could re-start. Under the roadmap it can be no earlier than May 17.

Spain, where 18 million Britons holidayed every year before the pandemic, yesterday seized on Mrs von der Leyen's announcement, with tourism minister Maria Reyes Maroto calling on Brussels to accelerate the plans. 

She urged Eurocrats to avoid 'prohibiting the movement of travellers within the internal market and also with third countries', in a thinly veiled call for British holidaymakers to be allowed to join the passports scheme.

Pedro Siza Vieira, Portugal's economy minister, said it was 'important' for EU countries to pile pressure on Brussels to reopen travel. But Belgium said it did not like the passport plans because it could lead to discrimination.

Foreign minister Sophie Wilmes said: 'For Belgium, there is no question of linking vaccination to the freedom of movement around Europe.'

Full story at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9314633/EUs-vaccine-passports-offer-hope-holidays.html

If the vaccines work then these passports aren't needed. So either they don't work or the passports have another purpose.

Spain are injecting their teachers, reports on the TV of plenty of  reactions. Of course this is good, apparently, as it shows the vaccine works.

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2 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

But it's the wrong authority. I have heard the most damnable heresies coming from the mouths of these charlatans. TD Jakes was on national TV in the USA telling his congregation, who are 99% black, to get the vaccine. Another was saying it is a gift from God. Christian Zionists will have a lot to answer for.

 

Some are just ignorant and brainwashed themselves, like most of the rest of society, thus they probably think they are doing the right thing by their 'flock' by promoting vaccination. However, I imagine there is a very special place in Hell for those who are knowingly leading their sheep to the slaughter.

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6 hours ago, Bullion said:

I saw some oinkas today coming out of Maccas stuffing their gobs..... most are too corpulent to run, let alone catch their prey

 

Either too fat or too bloody weak and weedy. The once mighty 'Force' that used be comprised of hard men no less than 6 foot tall and who could punch on with hardened gang leaders, has now been reduced to a bunch of whiney SJW feminists and soy boy cucks.

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10 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Mandatory wearing of face masks in shops and on public transport will probably stay in place in the UK until at least 2022, predict a majority of infectious disease experts polled by New Scientist.

Expectations are similar for UK government guidance on physical distancing, with most anticipating that 2 metre or “1 metre-plus” measures will remain until 2022 or later.

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It will stop being legally mandated at some point, but I think there will be a permanent culture change

 

Physical contact with people outside the immediate family is anticipated to take time. While the majority of respondents said they personally expect to invite relatives and friends into their home towards the end of the year, 28 people said they don’t anticipate hugging or shaking hands with someone outside their support bubble until 2022 or later. And, like changing attitudes on face masks, cultural norms may alter our physical greetings for good. “I think hugs and handshakes will be reduced so significantly that they may not be the norm any more,” says Deji Oloko, also at LSHTM.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2268030-face-masks-needed-in-the-uk-until-2022-says-poll-of-disease-experts/

 

Disclaimer: I realise these "polls" of "experts" are sh!t.

 

 

Previous generations used to encourage their kids to play in the mud, wrestle around, play with animals, and get generally dirty.

 

You know why - dickheads? - immunity 101. Exposure develops a strong immune system for life, you friggin retards. Everyone used to know that.

 

Now, you're just breeding a generation of weak pussies. You're all a disgrace to your ancestors and aren't worthy of the genes passed onto you.

 

 

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1 hour ago, campanar said:

If the vaccines work then these passports aren't needed. So either they don't work or the passports have another purpose.

Spain are injecting their teachers, reports on the TV of plenty of  reactions. Of course this is good, apparently, as it shows the vaccine works.

 

I remember a few years back, cycling around the German countryside and gently rolling into France without a care in the world and not even realising I was in another country until I saw the French flags. No paperwork, no police threatening to arrest me, no digital ID required, no mask, no proof of vaccination status, no rod jammed into my brain and a bleeding nose to show for it.

 

Tell your kids these stories in a few years. They won't believe you. They'll think you're making it up.

 

This freedom will never, ever be known again. Cherish the memories.

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JOGGERS SHOULD WEAR FACE MASKS WHEN RUNNING IN CROWDED AREAS, SCIENTISTS SAY

 

But few of us will have realised the risks involved in running through busy parks. Outdoor spaces are largely safer than indoor spaces when it comes to Covid-19 transmission, but "puffing and panting" can pose a danger to others, scientists have said

 

"There is no doubt the virus is in the air, there is no doubt that you can catch it if you inhale, and that someone else has exhaled,” Trish Greenhalgh, professor in primary care health sciences at the University of Oxford, told Good Morning Britain.

 

"The exercising jogger - the puffing and panting jogger - you can feel their breath come and you can sometimes actually feel yourself inhale it, so there's no doubt that there is a danger there.

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/joggers-should-wear-masks-when-running-past-other-people-scientists-say-265234?

 

 

Theyre really pushing their luck with all these "scientists" - I'm being to think its all part of a plan to destroy humanities hope and excitement in real science, so in the future we'll just leave it up to all the Dr Mengele's

 

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2 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

JOGGERS SHOULD WEAR FACE MASKS WHEN RUNNING IN CROWDED AREAS, SCIENTISTS SAY

 

But few of us will have realised the risks involved in running through busy parks. Outdoor spaces are largely safer than indoor spaces when it comes to Covid-19 transmission, but "puffing and panting" can pose a danger to others, scientists have said

 

"There is no doubt the virus is in the air, there is no doubt that you can catch it if you inhale, and that someone else has exhaled,” Trish Greenhalgh, professor in primary care health sciences at the University of Oxford, told Good Morning Britain.

 

"The exercising jogger - the puffing and panting jogger - you can feel their breath come and you can sometimes actually feel yourself inhale it, so there's no doubt that there is a danger there.

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/joggers-should-wear-masks-when-running-past-other-people-scientists-say-265234?

 

 

Theyre really pushing their luck with all these "scientists" - I'm being to think its all part of a plan to destroy humanities hope and excitement in real science, so in the future we'll just leave it up to all the Dr Mengele's

 

 

Meanwhile, real scientists are well aware of the dangers of masks during exercise:

 

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8 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

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Here is another architect of artificially created food shortages. Even has his rationale all buttoned up. People that think this way have planned covid. Famine is in the cards. Again it will be artificially created.

The Great Famine remains a taboo in China, where it is referred to euphemistically as the Three Years of Natural Disasters.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/01/china-great-famine-book-tombstone

 

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5 hours ago, serpentine said:

 

There was nothing artifical about the immense flooding during last years shifting monsoon pattern in central China and the droughts in the north east.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/15/china-scaling-up-weather-modification-programme-we-should-be-worried

 

China’s state council announced that by 2025 its weather modification programme will cover around half the country. It is aiming to control rain and snow across an area that is more than one-and-a-half times the size of India, or 20 times the size of the UK. In other words, a bloody huge area.

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