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20 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think many people are content with this post-agricultural age where people do specialised tasks in soulless corporate environments instead of doing many different tasks in the outdoors

 

That's why so many people are on anti-depressants or are self-medicating in someway because people don't want to admit that modern life is not working for a great many people

 

Like the elites i WANT a great reset i just don't share THEIR vision of it

Was our evolution a curse? I agree modern life is shit, but maybe all human existence since we started walking on 2 legs has been a horror show. Perhaps we should have never evolved past our ape brothers...life would have been a lot less complicated.

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15 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the only explanation that makes sense is that they are not really concerned about the spread of a deadly virus and are in fact just motivated by a giant social engineering programme aimed at destroying independent businesses so that their own elite owned mega-corporations are the only businesses left standing

 

so what are people going to do about that because waving a placard might help people to see that there are other disgruntled people out there but it does NOTHING to take power away from the mega-corporations

 

The only way to do that is to deprive them of your custom by using your money on alternatives instead. This is already quite a challenge as the world has already become largely dominated by the elites corporations

 

Hit them in the pocket! Don't buy their commodities.

 

Easier said than done since they have monopolised everything. It would require self-sufficiency and to source other products, like organic farm foods and local tradesmen.

 

Like it was in the olden days, when each community provided for themselves, with a carpenter, blacksmith, farmer, baker, a doctor, church and a pub. It's all you need!

 

Trade and barter. Everyone has a skill to offer. For example, my sister gave me reflexology yesterday and I paid her with a fish. Cut hair and get paid with turnips?

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Agreed. There is I think a population problem but it was aggravated by politicians. They pushed immigration to the max and scoffed at overcrowding. These people were so blinkered all they could see was growth tables.
I think most people are capable of understanding population issues and green issues. Having said that I'm not convinced yet the vaccine was designed to leave people sterile. It would only take one whistleblower to cause mayhem. In fact - right or wrong- I figure the virus is real but my take is it became fed by hysteria. And exploited by many to snuff out democracy. What was left of it that is

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From Jean Claude earlier....

 

Van-Tam said the data “gives us those first glimpses of how, if we are patient, and we give this vaccine programme time to have its full effect, it is going to hopefully take us into a very different world in the next few months”.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DarianF said:

 

Sadly there'll be no justice for these criminals. They'll just end up like Tony Blair. Just get rotated around over a decade and pop back up promoting some other criminal agenda years later.

 

That bastard Bliar will exit this life without ever seeing the inside of a prison cell.  I feel it will be the same for Johnson, Whitty, Hancock, etc.

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2 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

 

That bastard Bliar will exit this life without ever seeing the inside of a prison cell.  I feel it will be the same for Johnson, Whitty, Hancock, etc.

They are part of the transition team, pretty sure they will be discarded once the destination is reached. After all they know too much.

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5 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

Agreed. There is I think a population problem but it was aggravated by politicians. They pushed immigration to the max and scoffed at overcrowding. These people were so blinkered all they could see was growth tables.
I think most people are capable of understanding population issues and green issues. Having said that I'm not convinced yet the vaccine was designed to leave people sterile. It would only take one whistleblower to cause mayhem. In fact - right or wrong- I figure the virus is real but my take is it became fed by hysteria. And exploited by many to snuff out democracy. What was left of it that is

 

The worlds top anti-virus microbiologists were killed off. 

 

By 2005, 40 were dead. Today, (2014) over 100.

 

Many murdered, the rest died under very suspicious circumstances. It is known they were all working on highly sensitive or government-funded research projects tied to bio-weapons and viral pandemics.

 

These are the ‘whistleblowers’ who knew too much.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deadbiologists.html

 

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16 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Hit them in the pocket! Don't buy their commodities.

 

Easier said than done since they have monopolised everything. It would require self-sufficiency and to source other products, like organic farm foods and local tradesmen.

 

Like it was in the olden days, when each community provided for themselves, with a carpenter, blacksmith, farmer, baker, a doctor, church and a pub. It's all you need!

 

Trade and barter. Everyone has a skill to offer. For example, my sister gave me reflexology yesterday and I paid her with a fish. Cut hair and get paid with turnips?

I'm more of the level where I will cut turnips and get paid with hair.

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5 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

 

That bastard Bliar will exit this life without ever seeing the inside of a prison cell.  I feel it will be the same for Johnson, Whitty, Hancock, etc.

They will get Knighted!

 

Arise Dame Terry May...

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Agree with Velma. I take my hat off to protesters but the protests don't directly affect those who are wrecking free societies. There's also not enough legal, information based organization. Currently my own position is to walk out. I mean, I'm seriously out of the nearest door. Adios! I've no desire to just go along with people control and propaganda. My grandad fought a war in the hope of freedom from human rights abuse and dictatorship. If the majority population are happy to live like serfs and denied personal liberties, count me out! I'd rather just take care of my own needs and live according to my own values.

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I was thinking if you could get around the vaccine passport by carrying your own oxygen tanks on a flight. But then the size and weight limitations probably only have a few hours and I wonder if there would be pressure considerations in a pressurised plane. Maybe oxygen tanks is not a great idea. They could put us all to sleep with drugs for the duration of the flight and vacuum pack us except for a supply of oxygen, they could probably fit in 500 in a plane that way. At least we wouldn't need a vaccine to travel. 

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1 minute ago, SimonTV said:

I was thinking if you could get around the vaccine passport by carrying your own oxygen tanks on a flight. But then the size and weight limitations probably only have a few hours and I wonder if there would be pressure considerations in a pressurised plane. Maybe oxygen tanks is not a great idea. They could put us all to sleep with drugs for the duration of the flight and vacuum pack us except for a supply of oxygen, they could probably fit in 500 in a plane that way. At least we wouldn't need a vaccine to travel. 

Don't give them ideas, they'll have a doctor on board to vaccinate the vaccum packed dissenters while they sleep.

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1 hour ago, Outsider said:

Was our evolution a curse? I agree modern life is shit, but maybe all human existence since we started walking on 2 legs has been a horror show. Perhaps we should have never evolved past our ape brothers...life would have been a lot less complicated.

 

why do you think that using the technology given to you by the elites is 'evolution'?

 

when you came into this life, through the womb door, there was nothing etched in stone that said 'you MUST own a SMART phone'

 

the elite created that smart phone in the same way that they created nuclear bombs and mustard gas which is to say out of military research

 

It is THEIR spy tech and you willingly pay for it and keep it on your person and allow it to spy on you 24/7. As you sit it on the table next to you it is still listening to you and everyone around you and as you put it in your pocket it is sending out pulsed EMF's through your balls that are likely destroying your fertility

 

That isn't 'evolution' anymore than the elites putting fluoride in the water to retard you is

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This touched me this week. This is called money where mouth is. And it’s rare. 
 

And then there’s this...

All about the money. Would have our kids be tested and vaccinated to make a few quid. Or lots of quids. I said before not to judge or he couldn’t see what he could see. I think can but ignores. And his music is not on a level compared to the stone roses or Ian Brown. He’s on my no list for buying tickets. He’s got a lot of power but doesn’t use it for good. Just shit. 

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45 minutes ago, Velma said:

Hit them in the pocket! Don't buy their commodities.

 

Easier said than done since they have monopolised everything. It would require self-sufficiency and to source other products, like organic farm foods and local tradesmen.

 

Like it was in the olden days, when each community provided for themselves, with a carpenter, blacksmith, farmer, baker, a doctor, church and a pub. It's all you need!

 

Trade and barter. Everyone has a skill to offer. For example, my sister gave me reflexology yesterday and I paid her with a fish. Cut hair and get paid with turnips?

 

when you start thinking along the lines of 'how can i work outside of the corporate system' or 'how can i eat outside of the corporate system' it becomes a real challenge and you begin to really understand just how sown up the elites have already got the game

 

But at that point you can either fall into despair and resign yourself into being their slave in which case you might as well accept the covid-jab and the vaccine passport and the smart meter in your home and the implantables and the social credit score and the connecting of your own body and all of your now 'smart' appliances to the 5G wifi cloud so that you can be monitored and micro-managed around the clock or you start looking for ANY way in which you can reject that because every single act that is taken as a rejection of that IS a protest

 

That way you can gradually turn your entire life into a living protest and yes that is what it is going to take. It won't be enough for you and me to do it either as reality is created by everyones actions in the aggregate so it will need MILLIONS of people to do it as well

 

When you see how reluctant people are to even contemplate such a process you realise how the elites keep winning every round against us

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constantly buying the elites corporate goods and services is like playing a football game where your team keeps giving the ball away to the other side and then complaining because they keep scoring against you

 

it doesn't matter how much you protest to the ref the other side will keep scoring and winning because you keep giving them the ball

 

you can't win that way. You have to starve them of the ball

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49 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I'm more of the level where I will cut turnips and get paid with hair.

 

sure....when you start thinking about stepping out of THEIR game it can feel like standing at the foot of an unclimbable mountain but you don't have to go from total corporate dependency to full blown small holding pioneer in one week!

 

ANY act you do that deprives them of your money (which is their oxygen) is a revolutionary act. ANY ACT

 

also the more people who step outside of their system the more the parallel system grows and the easier it then becomes to live the alternative because there will be more and more of the things you need available to you

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20 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

why do you think that using the technology given to you by the elites is 'evolution'?

 

when you come into this life, through the womb door, there was nothing etched in stone that said 'you MUST own a SMART phone'

 

the elite created that smart phone in the same way that they created nuclear bombs and mustard gas which is to say out of military research

 

It is THEIR spy tech and you willingly pay for it and keep it on your person and allow it to spy on you 24/7. As you sit it on the table next to you it is still listening to you and everyone around you and as you put it in your pocket it is sending out pulsed EMF's through your balls that are likely destroying your fertility

 

That isn't 'evolution' anymore than the elites putting fluoride in the water to retard you is

I was born into the world as it is, didn't have much choice in the matter.

Maybe if I was born as a gorilla in a jungle then life would have made more sense. 

 

Just trying to make the point that our advanced brains have enabled us to create and invent but it has also brought us much sorrow and pain.

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12 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

when you start thinking along the lines of 'how can i work outside of the corporate system' or 'how can i eat outside of the corporate system' it becomes a real challenge and you begin to really understand just how sown up the elites have already got the game

 

But at that point you can either fall into despair and resign yourself into being their slave in which case you might as well accept the covid-jab and the vaccine passport and the smart meter in your home and the implantables and the social credit score and the connecting of your own body and all of your now 'smart' appliances to the 5G wifi cloud so that you can be monitored and micro-managed around the clock or you start looking for ANY way in which you can reject that because every single act that is taken as a rejection of that IS a protest

 

That way you can gradually turn your entire life into a living protest and yes that is what it is going to take. It won't be enough for you and me to do it either as reality is created by everyones actions in the aggregate so it will need MILLIONS of people to do it as well

 

When you see how reluctant people are to even contemplate such a process you realise how the elites keep winning every round against us

 

There have been people moving off grid since Y2K!

 

Although that was a false alarm, they saw the writing on the wall and made preparations.

 

It can be done. Alternative lifestyles are possible and the preppers have proved it.

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2 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I was born into the world as it is, didn't have much choice in the matter.

 

you have EVERY choice about how you engage in this world

 

it is not a rule that you must do things like own a smart phone. You choose to do that from one moment to the next. You freely give away your power to the elites

 

2 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Maybe if I was born as a gorilla in a jungle then life would have made more sense. 

 

gorillas don't own smart phones that is true so their life is likely to be much simpler. They also do not keep things in their pockets that irradiate their balls

 

2 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Just trying to make the point that our advanced brains have enabled us to create and invent but it has also brought us much sorrow and pain.

 

who says you are really using your brain in an advanced way? lol

 

the elites are using theirs in an advanced way against you but are you being equally as sophisticated in your thinking or are you allowing them to do your thinking for you?

 

 

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