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16 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Anyone want free "Rishi Vouchers" of £500 to spend in venues where you have to give your contact/tracing details?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8490837/Rishi-Sunak-urged-Briton-500-voucher-used-shops-hospitality-tourism.html

 

Any idea what you are going to buy with your free money when it gets dropped from Rishi's helicopter?

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1 hour ago, Orange Alert said:

 

Any idea what you are going to buy with your free money when it gets dropped from Rishi's helicopter?

 

I'll sell the vouchers for cash to buy more prepping gear.

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A shifting position?

 

Imogen Foulkes, BBC News in Geneva

 

For months, the WHO has insisted that Covid-19 is transmitted via droplets emitted when people cough or sneeze. Droplets that do not linger in the air, but fall onto surfaces - that's why handwashing has been identified as a key prevention measure.

 

But 239 scientists from 32 countries don't agree: they say there is strong evidence to suggest the virus can also spread in the air: through much tinier particles that float around for hours after people talk, or breathe out.

 

Today the WHO admitted there was evidence to suggest this was possible in specific settings, such as enclosed and crowded spaces.

 

That evidence will have to be thoroughly evaluated, but if it is confirmed, the advice on how to prevent the virus spreading may have to change, and could lead to more widespread use of masks, and more rigorous distancing, especially in bars, restaurants, and on public transport.

 

FFS!

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15 minutes ago, Velma said:

A shifting position?

 

Imogen Foulkes, BBC News in Geneva

 

For months, the WHO has insisted that Covid-19 is transmitted via droplets emitted when people cough or sneeze. Droplets that do not linger in the air, but fall onto surfaces - that's why handwashing has been identified as a key prevention measure.

 

But 239 scientists from 32 countries don't agree: they say there is strong evidence to suggest the virus can also spread in the air: through much tinier particles that float around for hours after people talk, or breathe out.

 

Today the WHO admitted there was evidence to suggest this was possible in specific settings, such as enclosed and crowded spaces.

 

That evidence will have to be thoroughly evaluated, but if it is confirmed, the advice on how to prevent the virus spreading may have to change, and could lead to more widespread use of masks, and more rigorous distancing, especially in bars, restaurants, and on public transport.

 

FFS!

 

- They're constantly changing the goalposts, sewing confusion at every opportunity. Complete disruption of society. The only thing people appear to be sick of, is this sick narrative!

and the WHO also claimed that contagion is minimal among asymptomatic.

 

So if airborne - then everyone is "infected" since it was supposedly identified as far back as march 2019 in sewage waste somewhere in the EU according to last mondays UKcolumn report -  and as we're back to pre covid mortality baseline rates - we can return to our ordinary lives and there is absolutely no need to be tested or vaxxumed !

 

Could we construct a timeline of claims by all these so called experts to represent their collective idiocy replete with their contradictions.

 

The only transmission that needs to stop is the digital television services and the radio!

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, rideforever said:

 

... a respiratory disease that is transmitted through the air ... as oppose to what ?  Ever heard of the flu ?
Incredible idiocy from WHO.

 

They can be as idiotic as they choose; they can see that the masses keep believing their bullshit so why not?

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Only the dumbest and weakest sheople would allow some random person totally disguised in a hazmat suit to stick a swab all the way up their nose.

 

Another day gone by and I haven't been infected with this ridiculous corona virus. Bummer.

 

It's actually sad to see so many people still concern themselves with this ridiculous bullshit.

 

I left the internet for the weekend and it was nice and peaceful. I heard nothing of corona virus and would have never knew it existed if it were not for the stupid bartender wearing a Bears facemask at the nice little beach side bar and restaurant I went to on Saturday.

 

After enjoying a nice wheat ale, I go into the restroom to relieve myself, no one is in there, cool. I head for the toilet, cause I absolutely hate urinals because I hate splash-back. Hey, if I wanted piss on my nice suede shoes or my vintage pinstriped shorts I would go out and piss into the wind.

 

Anyway, so I'm relieving myself in the stall and a fart slips out, and a thought comes to mind, and I laugh and I verbalize it, "that's what I think of corona virus". lol

 

So I finish up with a couple shakes, *zip*, flush, and I walk out to wash my hands like I always do because thankfully I had sane parents who taught me proper hygiene, and I notice the bartender is standing there do his thing at a urinal! Lol. I didn't even hear him sneak in, so now I'm thinking, I wonder if he heard my comment about corona virus after breaking wind. Then I think, good, I hope he heard me.

 

So then he finishes up as I'm washing my hands and he turns around and sees me and says, I know you. I'm thinking, no,  you don't. lol And I forgot how we got into discussion but I asked him, what's your opinion on being forced to wear a mask, and this idiot proceeds to compare himself and his line of work to firefighters! He says, I look at it the same as a fire fighter having to wear his helmet, I have gotten used to the mask and I don't even know it's there. Then he walks out. I'm thinking, what a fool, and I wish I had said to him, yeah but a fire fighter's helmet actually protects him where as that mask doesn't protect you.

 

I dry my hands and walk back to the bar and leave him two dollars tip for my one beer and I leave. Driving off I think, I shouldn't have tipped him at all. And so that's my new plan. If I go out to any of these restaurants or bars or pubs, I am not leaving any person a tip who is wearing a mask.

 

If they don't like it, let them complain to their manager. If more people quit then maybe the owners of these establishments will be forced to get active in politics and begin to put pressure on these sell out douchebag politicians.

 

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12 minutes ago, jonesthepost said:

I see Max Igans youtube account has been terminated for ‘a violation of youtubes terms of service’ lol.

 

He had a mighty handy rant on his latest video; went out in style.

 

 

Would like to have seen that rant. Is he on bitchute?

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Wonder what is happening here:

 

" Donald Trump formally notifies United Nations and Congress of US withdrawal from World Health Organization. Mr Trump has repeatedly criticised the organisation over its response to the coronavirus pandemic and has accused it of bowing to Chinese influence. ( But i thought the jews made the virus )

"The administration's move to formally withdraw from WHO amid the greatest public health crisis that Americans and the world have faced in a century is short-sighted, unnecessary, and unequivocally dangerous," said UN Foundation President Elizabeth Cousens. "WHO is the only body capable of leading and coordinating the global response to COVID-19. Terminating the U.S. relationship would undermine the global effort to beat this virus — putting all of us at risk."  ( Is it the money they are going to lose from us withdrawl, or no more epstein - type  situations for child molesting.  That is why they keep so many children in government foster homes, despite a record number of couples wanting to adopt who are constantly being refused. Yet when bill gates or epstein walk into a children's home they are warmly welcomed. )

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11 minutes ago, massivedone said:

I can swear I've heard of that lady before, Fiona Barnett.

 

Searching youtube real quick I think I have seen one or two of her videos years ago when I first was waking up to "Pizzagate" before I had even heard the word pizzagate. Like 2015 I think I found one of her videos after I had found Ted Gunderson and then Johnny Gosch and the Conspiracy of Silence doc.

 

As I have said earlier in this thread, I fully believe that this whole corona bs was fabricated to counter the rapid awakening to the adrenochrome & child trafficking abuse situation.

 

Thanks for posting that link Massivedone.

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6 hours ago, zarkov said:

 

The only thing people appear to be sick of, is this sick narrative!

 

 

 

 

 

Thousands of protesters have clashed with riot police in the Serbian capital Belgrade after the country's president announced the reintroduction of a lockdown.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-riots-in-the-serbian-capital-after-government-reimposes-lockdown-12023505

 

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44 minutes ago, Velma said:

Thousands of protesters have clashed with riot police in the Serbian capital Belgrade after the country's president announced the reintroduction of a lockdown.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-riots-in-the-serbian-capital-after-government-reimposes-lockdown-12023505

 

 

Thats good; this needs to happen everywhere.

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So today, the UK's national academy of science has stated that everyone should wear masks "whenever you are in crowded public spaces".


If this recommendation is followed, and introduced as government guidance, it will mean that to a very great extent I won't be able to go out any more, except to take my dog for a walk in the woods, as I very fortunately live in the countryside and can just walk out of my front door straight into the woods. Although half the time when I encounter someone, on my own in the open air, they're backing away in terror.


There is a pub down the road from me, probably I will be able to walk down there, be served by someone wearing a mask, and have a quiet pint and some lunch. Beyond that, I won't be able to go anywhere else. My life will be limited to my house, taking my dog for a walk, and going to the one pub within walking distance, although that's not a certainty. And I'll be better off than a lot of people!


Because I won't wear a mask in public. I won't do things that don't make sense. Unless you put a gun to my head and make me do them. If I have no choice legally, then at some point I would have to wear a mask, but if I can swerve it then I will. Even if this isn't enacted legally, it's likely that you will be increasingly ostracised if you don't wear one publicly. 


This is being recommended despite the fact that Deputy chief medical officer Dr Jenny Harries stated that there is “probably a very, very small potential beneficial effect” of wearing masks, and that “the evidence is really very, very difficult to tease out”. And that was in relation to "some enclosed environments"; ie. not public spaces that are outdoors! Harries also stated that "the fact that there is a lot of debate means that the evidence either isn’t clear or is weak", and that "for the average member of the public, and it may be for example if you’re walking out in an open space, you’re practising good social distancing measures, you are neither going to be a risk to anybody else or to yourself".


Downing Street chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance noted that evidence for face masks is "variable, quite weak and difficult to know", and Peter Horby, chairman of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG), having investigated the benefits of face masks, described the data as “weak”. Horby himself stated that he does not wear a mask outside, and went on to explain the following:


"The data are difficult and the reason that you’re seeing different policies is because the data are weak. [In field conditions], their effectiveness is much, much lower. There’s also the problem of wearing the mask properly, they’re very difficult to wear properly for a long time, and so for prolonged exposures their effectiveness is really quite low".


Dr April Baller, a public health specialist for the WHO, previously stated that "masks should only be used by healthcare workers, caregivers or by people who are sick with symptoms of fever and cough", and in the government's own report entitled: "Keeping workers and customers safe during COVID-19 in restaurants, pubs, bars and takeaway services", the following is stated on page 35:

 

"When managing the risk of COVID-19, additional PPE beyond what you usually wear is not beneficial. This is because COVID-19 is a different type of risk to the risks you normally face in a workplace, and needs to be managed through social distancing, hygiene and fixed teams or partnering, not through the use of PPE.
It is important to know that the evidence of the benefit of using a face covering to protect others is weak and the effect is likely to be small, therefore face coverings are not a replacement for the other ways of managing risk, including minimizing time spent in contact, using fixed teams and partnering for close-up work, and increasing hand and surface washing.


These other measures remain the best ways of managing risk in the workplace and government would therefore not expect to see employers relying on face coverings as risk management for the purpose of their health and safety assessments".


Bear in mind that again deals with enclosed spaces, not open-air environments.


And I heard a BBC Radio 5Live report on when masks were first required on public transport, during which a government medical advisor (who advocated in favour of face masks) conceded that the benefit of them is "extremely marginal". And after he'd said this, the reporter from 5Live stated that he had spoken to government representatives, they had equally stated that any benefits are extremely marginal, and that the policy was only being implemented to provide "psychological comfort" to people, so that they will be willing to use public transport again.


So we already have a situation where it's legally required to wear masks, and it's admitted that this actually has virtually no medical benefit, that the policy isn't being implemented for any medical benefit anyway, and this is only in relation to enclosed spaces, where viruses are far more likely to be transmitted.


This last point is blindingly obvious anyway. Quite clearly, any virus is more likely to be passed on from one person to another indoors than outdoors. But a study in April already concluded that "the odds that a primary case transmitted COVID-19 in a closed environment was 18.7 times greater compared to an open-air environment".


That's just my little bit of research that I carried out while writing this post, which took about 5-10 minutes. It's all mainstream sources, it's not in any way contentious or controversial.


Yet already the president of the UK's Royal Society, Venki Ramakrishnan, has not only called for everyone to wear face coverings in public spaces, but has also stated that "it used to be quite normal to have quite a few drinks and drive home, and it also used to be normal to drive without seatbelts. Today both of those would be considered antisocial, and not wearing face coverings in public should be regarded in the same way". 


So we're comparing drink-driving, in relation to which alcohol is known to impede reaction time, impair your reflexes, and effectively make you a worse driver, while driving is already dangerous anyway, with not wearing a mask in public, which is known to be ineffective even in enclosed spaces, which will have bordering on zero impact in outdoor environments, where there is little evidence that the virus can be passed on outdoors anyway and studies have shown that this hardly ever happens statistically, which is a response to a virus that 95% of people in the UK have yet to contract, and which it is now admitted that many will never contract, which only really kills old people, according to the government's own figures, which has killed very few people proportionately who don't have underlying health conditions, for which most deaths haven't been proven to be related to the virus, and for which 45% of even those deaths linked with Covid-19 have occurred in care homes (20,000 of 44,000 deaths).


I don't really think it's quite the same, do you? But I'm sure the government will roll over and force everyone to wear face masks in due course. As an example, you're already required to wear face masks on beaches in Spain. 


If we're now asked to wear masks in public, or even if people start doing this voluntarily en masse, it's a complete joke. There's just no evidence that this is necessary, or even beneficial. If this became law, it could then go on for months, or even years. If it does become law, congratulations TPTB, you will have confined me to the immediate vicinity of my home. Because there's no way I'm playing ball with this, it's fucking stupid.

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I've had to upload my post for this thread on face masks and Covid as images of a word processor document, as I received a blocked message when I tried to post it. I had provided loads of links, but obviously you can't click on those now, but you could look everything up if you could be bothered! I've also enclosed a screenshot so you can see what occurred when I tried to post it.

yeah i think you have to paste as plain text,

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