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3 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

I know what you mean about if the mainstream media hasn't said it then they're not interested.

 

My own personal experience is that the best way is to subtly try and ascertain if there's any possibility that they might be open to alternative information. If not then just leave it and carry on the relationship as normal, it's what I've done with my mother, she's got the vaccine and isn't interested in questioning anything so I just stay clear of that whole subject.

We're going through difficult times that are going to get even more difficult, my intuition tells me that it's better to have friends and family in your life even if they believe everything the mainstream media tells them

 

 

I agree, my mother just told me how she's getting the satanmurderjabvaccine tomorrow, I'm sure she expected some kind of reaction. If you've been following the thread the last couple days you may remember I spoke of her viscious condemnation of me for caring about what happens to others to the detriment of myself (I like a drink), the call came anyways like nothing happened and yeah, felt like trying to rub it in to be honest. She said she'd just done her 3000 steps on the treadmill and a busy day tomorrow amongst getting jer jab. She's very active for a 65 year old. Does 10000 steps a day religiously. Apple watch owns her.

 

I refrained from commenting - let's hope you can still walk tomorrow 😏 Good for me. But I share it with you lot for a smirk. 

 

I wonder if there is a thread anywhere on DIF where people can talk about their experience with loved ones with an opposing view. In my case I didn't start shit, she did. And unfortunately for me she was the only person I had 😆

 

If there is not, I'd start one off in case anyone just wants to talk. Talking can't fix things but it can dull the sharpness, does anyone know of one and if not where best to start one.

 

I know the thread 'petition to stop mandatory facemasks' has been used in that way and general interactions for a while but anywhere better? I only really check this thread outside of a few marked ones

 

I feel for the couple people who have said their partners are going 'bad'

 

It's really a gut punch when you realise the person you felt happy to live out the rest with pulls the rug out under you. Might be worse than losing your mum.. not sure on that but it's all SHITE and I can't believe this nonsense and the way it's destroying relationships, they did good didn't they.

 

Things are reaally bad atm for ppl who won't accept coersion. I don't need to tell you to stick with it. It's INATE. FUCKEM

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Says everything that now reading that to me, sounds like soft kill - lite, doesn't it?

 

The Tories and New 'Labour' are a bunch of scumbags who pick on the weakest.

But they are so-oo caring with Covid? Con..con..con..

 

Brown envelopes .. as Spike Milligan said:

 

' I never open brown envelopes - last time I did, a month later I was in a desert trench being shelled by Germans'.

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I wonder, if that the link to the EU, regarding discrimination, applies to the LFT too,

 

in my field, they are requesting LFT, twice a week, owing to the nature of the work, and the interactions involved

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4 minutes ago, pete675 said:

 

The Tories and New 'Labour' are a bunch of scumbags who pick on the weakest.

But they are so-oo caring with Covid? Con..con..con..

 

Brown envelopes .. as Spike Milligan said:

 

' I never open brown envelopes - last time I did, a month later I was in a desert trench being shelled by Germans'.

I swear I cannot understand how everyone eventually can't recognise they're getting shafted. If it takes 50 years, fair enough, better than nothing. 

 

I genuinely have memory problems but I somehow still managed to notice and remember everyone's getting shafted. It's like real life matters less than Neighbours or EastEnders, or to throw in a wider example- WWE. Some thick fucks would see more reality in that, Mind Boggles. Sorry. I have wandered into bad guy territory. I find this surreal. I cried earlier thinking of where these idiots will end up. For their sake. And their children. I'll just get back to making my sinister plans for when they eventually come for me and take solace in taking out one, two, maybe a few useless cunts. Oops I did it again

 

 

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Yeah I don't want to sound dramatic but I cannot find the words to describe how depressing and utterly unreal it is. Was talking to my neighbour today lovely bloke. He said he had the vax and he was ill for a day. He said "so I'm safe now". I didn't say anything because i genuinely like the guy I just nodded along. But its one of those moments when its like yeah, we are being expected to take this so we are safe and don't infect others. 

 

I am sure most of us have had that feeling. Having a conversation and all of a sudden reality splits and you realise most people are a different species of people now. Like a depersonalisation disconnected hay rolling over the road feelings and everything goes slow motion. 

 

I did my mourning last year. Particularly when the clapping got intense and went on for 6 weeks, i got genuinely scared by the insanity that seemed to be spreading like wild fire and during the loud clappijg its embarrassing really but i started crying. I mean one week is just stupid but might make the grannies and virtue signallers feel part of something. Which is cringe at best. But it really did start to get weird lol.

 

And then the other side, miserable boomers who seem to be giving me the silent treatment, probably because i have been out of work for 6 months. I find it quite amusing always used to have a chingwag now i say how are you? "Oh im good thanks". Then talks to my sibling for half an hour. 

 

Yeah I am going through a misanthrope period. I have compassion but not when its compromising the rest of us. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, skitzorat said:

(Part of the reason I think they want to hijack our Divine Genome is because it contains the collective memory of all our ancestors and within our Human Power. If we 'light up' too much, we reclaim that Power as our cosmic memory continues to bubble rapidly the surface - and then their game is over)

 

Do you think that our supposed Junk DNA may have something to do with this ? Maybe this Junk DNA could be joining up or rather mingling together to give us back our powers that we used to have.

Is this what the elites know & are afraid of ?

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This is a real picture of BillGates....from his childhood. So now you understand.

With a father, whom he greatly admired, like William Gates II;  senior board member of the birth control activist eugenicist, Margaret Sanger's  "Planned Parenthood," I'm not surprised. The Elite families do seem to like doing depraved things to their own children after all- imagination is a curse with your picture!

 

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I worked in a house today where they had a vaccine damaged child who is now an adult of 18 years old. He developed chronic bronchitis 1 day after his  jabs as a baby. Both parents now in their late 50s had their flu jab yesterday? Both of them had arms like an elephant's leg from the reaction.

 

They was both having the vaccine when I asked them at the start of the conversation. I asked them why would you with what you have been through in the past? The mother was far more wary and said she didn't really trust any of them and this is the first year they have both had the flu jab. She was worried that if she didn't have it she could be one of the 100,000 plus statistics. I showed them both the death count stats for 2020 and previous years and they could not believe it. By the time I left and told them she was looking very concerned about what to do now?

 

My point is this though...if parents of a vaccine damaged child are going for it then what can we do?

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"Allowing for the book, after all, being a parody, something like 1984 could actually happen. This is the direction the world is going in at the present time. In our world, there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. The sex instinct will be eradicated. We shall abolish the orgasm. There will be no loyalty except loyalty to the Party. But always there will be the intoxication of power. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who’s helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever. The moral to be drawn from this dangerous nightmare situation is a simple one: don’t let it happen. It depends on you."

 

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14 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Yeah I don't want to sound dramatic but I cannot find the words to describe how depressing and utterly unreal it is. Was talking to my neighbour today lovely bloke. He said he had the vax and he was ill for a day. He said "so I'm safe now". I didn't say anything because i genuinely like the guy I just nodded along. But its one of those moments when its like yeah, we are being expected to take this so we are safe and don't infect others. 

 

I am sure most of us have had that feeling. Having a conversation and all of a sudden reality splits and you realise most people are a different species of people now. Like a depersonalisation disconnected hay rolling over the road feelings and everything goes slow motion. 

 

I did my mourning last year. Particularly when the clapping got intense and went on for 6 weeks, i got genuinely scared by the insanity that seemed to be spreading like wild fire and during the loud clappijg its embarrassing really but i started crying. I mean one week is just stupid but might make the grannies and virtue signallers feel part of something. Which is cringe at best. But it really did start to get weird lol.

 

And then the other side, miserable boomers who seem to be giving me the silent treatment, probably because i have been out of work for 6 months. I find it quite amusing always used to have a chingwag now i say how are you? "Oh im good thanks". Then talks to my sibling for half an hour. 

 

Yeah I am going through a misanthrope period. I have compassion but not when its compromising the rest of us. 

 

 

 

My uncle who I respect dearly and who has been involved in the truth movement since the 70s calls it the selfish gene.

I couldn't put it better myself. The fear they are saturated in is pushing the gene to the surface. They are so consumed in the gene's dominance that they even think we are the selfish ones for not wearing a mask or wanting a vaccine. We are not telling them to do fu£k all.

 

* Grand/parents/ not wanting to see their grand/children at risk of infecting themselves....selfish gene.

* Wearing masks and telling others to do the same....selfish gene.

* I'm having the jab and so should you...selfish gene.

* Don't come near me until I have my vaccine. When I do then you can come a bit closer...selfish gene.

 

I'm convinced that this is mainly gene based. It MUST be because nuture wouldn't allow for brothers and sisters being polar opposites on such matters.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Do you think that our supposed Junk DNA may have something to do with this ? Maybe this Junk DNA could be joining up or rather mingling together to give us back our powers that we used to have.

Is this what the elites know & are afraid of ?

 

How strange because I was just posting something very similar at the same time as you put this up.

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I have known Three people who have went for the vaccine , each person was given a different vaccine, two had the RNA and the other the Oxford Astrazeneca.

Can anyone tell me how this works , are they just giving what vaccine is available in stock at the vaccine centre or do they look at their medical record to see what condition they might have ?

This is what concerns me, are they giving a more lethal vaccine to different groups of people, taking in their age, health record, in other words kill off those they seem useless ?

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11 minutes ago, Brad the lad said:

I worked in a house today where they had a vaccine damaged child who is now an adult of 18 years old. He developed chronic bronchitis 1 day after his  jabs as a baby. Both parents now in their late 50s had their flu jab yesterday? Both of them had arms like an elephant's leg from the reaction.

 

They was both having the vaccine when I asked them at the start of the conversation. I asked them why would you with what you have been through in the past? The mother was far more wary and said she didn't really trust any of them and this is the first year they have both had the flu jab. She was worried that if she didn't have it she could be one of the 100,000 plus statistics. I showed them both the death count stats for 2020 and previous years and they could not believe it. By the time I left and told them she was looking very concerned about what to do now?

 

My point is this though...if parents of a vaccine damaged child are going for it then what can we do?

This quote from Skitzorat's post was very apt and chilling, particularly the word irreversible.  I think all of our mental positions are now fixed and can't be budged. I can't envisage myself waking up one morning and deciding that I'm now going to believe there is a deadly virus and start wearing a mask.

Conversely the opposite won't happen to a covid believer. It's too much of a fundamental shift. Worryingly we may not see a dramatic revolt for decades, if ever. The point when the boot comes crashing into their balls will almost certainly occur but that will only happen when the trap has been made inescapable. The boot to the balls is just the final humiliation and all part of this game

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

This is what concerns me, are they giving a more lethal vaccine to different groups of people, taking in their age, health record, in other words kill off those they seem useless ?

They would be nuts not to. Especially with an alibi like covid to cover their tracks. They don't want to injure or kill their "essential" folk. But everyone else is fair game. Tailoring the doses to correspond with desired outcomes is certainly something they considered. They can tailor the doses by jurisdiction to mimick an outbreak. Sky is the limit when they have conned the masses this deeply.

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I'll just say what I have said before:

 

"There are many among us, that claim the title of truth seeker. They place it upon their lapel, like a nametag.

Yet when a painful truth passes close to their echo chamber, they recoil and instead of being a truth seeker they react like a programmed drone.

So in essence, they would rather accept a soothing lie than a harsh truth. Their label is empty, hollow, and the ultimate self-deception.


You'll find them scattered around alternative social media platforms, and even in "rightwing" circles. Gatekeepers, lie pushers, and blind alley manufacturers."

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I'll just say what I have said before:

 

"There are many among us, that claim the title of truth seeker. They place it upon their lapel, like a nametag.

Yet when a painful truth passes close to their echo chamber, they recoil and instead of being a truth seeker they react like a programmed drone.

So in essence, they would rather accept a soothing lie than a harsh truth. Their label is empty, hollow, and the ultimate self-deception.


You'll find them scattered around alternative social media platforms, and even in "rightwing" circles. Gatekeepers, lie pushers, and blind alley manufacturers."

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1 hour ago, skitzorat said:

@TFH

Yuri Bezmenov - ALL Interviews & Lectures HQ (1983-1984) 4+hrs.

Complete collection of interviews and books he wrote.

Safely archived - I'm surprised yewtube hasn't nuked his stuff for 'hate speech'

https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A"Yuri++Bezmenov"

 

 

 

Awesome! You know when someone sends you a link and you think 'what a load of ole shite' but you thank them anyway to be polite? 

 

Well, this isn't one of those thank yous, as I'm genuinely interested in what Yuri jas to say at this time in life! 

 

Thanks a lot, skit! 👍👍

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16 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

I have known Three people who have went for the vaccine , each person was given a different vaccine, two had the RNA and the other the Oxford Astrazeneca.

Can anyone tell me how this works , are they just giving what vaccine is available in stock at the vaccine centre or do they look at their medical record to see what condition they might have ?

This is what concerns me, are they giving a more lethal vaccine to different groups of people, taking in their age, health record, in other words kill off those they seem useless ?

I agree, it must have some logical explanation. I now know of 10 relatives / colleagues who have been vaccinated and the Pfizer recipients have histories of notable medical problems. They must be analysing medical records to determine which gets given. 

That's another thing that should be waking people up. Surely people would be curious to know why they were given vax y and their spouse given vax X?

Perhaps they just think it's all the same and don't bother questioning it (pretty likely)

I'd like to think if I was in their shoes I would at least be curious....

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1 hour ago, Fluke said:

Yeah I don't want to sound dramatic but I cannot find the words to describe how depressing and utterly unreal it is. Was talking to my neighbour today lovely bloke. He said he had the vax and he was ill for a day. He said "so I'm safe now". I didn't say anything because i genuinely like the guy I just nodded along. But its one of those moments when its like yeah, we are being expected to take this so we are safe and don't infect others. 

 

I am sure most of us have had that feeling. Having a conversation and all of a sudden reality splits and you realise most people are a different species of people now. Like a depersonalisation disconnected hay rolling over the road feelings and everything goes slow motion. 

 

I did my mourning last year. Particularly when the clapping got intense and went on for 6 weeks, i got genuinely scared by the insanity that seemed to be spreading like wild fire and during the loud clappijg its embarrassing really but i started crying. I mean one week is just stupid but might make the grannies and virtue signallers feel part of something. Which is cringe at best. But it really did start to get weird lol.

 

And then the other side, miserable boomers who seem to be giving me the silent treatment, probably because i have been out of work for 6 months. I find it quite amusing always used to have a chingwag now i say how are you? "Oh im good thanks". Then talks to my sibling for half an hour. 

 

Yeah I am going through a misanthrope period. I have compassion but not when its compromising the rest of us. 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing, Fluke. Its somewhat cathartic for me to see others feeling much the same as I do. 

 

I do remain hopeful for the bigger picture working itself out, but on a micro scale in my own life I'm in a mixed state of shock, massively reduced compassion for the sheep, and really quite severe anger that seems to be getting worse by the day at the moment! 

 

 

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Hi everyone. First post here but I have read pretty much every page of this and the old thread mega thread and it has been a place where I can come and resonate with others throughout the past year. 
 

I’ve been so optimistic sharing information with family and friends from the start of this manufactured pandemic. Stuff that any rational human would analyse and realise there is something not quite right going on. From the falsified and impractical pcr test to the way deaths are recorded. As much as they agree with the evidence that you present them, it simply can’t change their perception of the world or current events. People are stuck within their own brainwashed state of consciousness and can’t break free. I blame this obviously on the manipulation of the controlled and censored media and a barrage of psychological warfare that has played out over decades  People would rather remain blissfully ignorant than face up to the reality of the world as doing so would invoke a reaction. People are just too lazy to care.  

 

I have reached breaking point this week however. I have talked my family through each part of the script, often times months before it has happened and have been told ‘people would never allow that’ and completely dismissed what I have told them. I refer mainly this week to the idea of a vaccine passport which I mentioned to my immediate family was planned back in June if not earlier. At this point I told them the vaccine would be mandatory which a vaccine passport would technically render it. This has been downplayed in media explicitly until this week where chief puppet Boris claimed on tv ‘a lightbulb went off’ in his mind that this could be a way forward. When bringing this up in a bid to start a discussion about the premeditation of this, something I had told them about over half a year prior, I was told ‘well done you are clever’. No discussion on the implications of this and was told ‘there’s no other option really’. The level people are willing to comply simply baffles me.
 

There is nothing more we can do except stay true to our beliefs and our hearts and do all we can to push back on the society the few in control have planned for us. I’m mostly just worried about the upcoming vaccine which at the start my family would say there’s no way they would take it to now saying they would just to resume real life. This has completely changed the way I perceive the people I am closest to and I need a way to get through to them

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2 hours ago, TFH said:

 

Awesome! You know when someone sends you a link and you think 'what a load of ole shite' but you thank them anyway to be polite? 

 

Well, this isn't one of those thank yous, as I'm genuinely interested in what Yuri jas to say at this time in life! 

 

Thanks a lot, skit! 👍👍

No probs! 😁

 

I got a genuine sense of a feeling of total disillusion in your post, so thought an explanation as to the complex psychological warfare being wagged might be of actual  assistance in giving you some mental congruence. Hopefully a tiny bit of peace of mind that there's nothing wrong with you for seeing such mindfuckery in your loved ones - there's  an evil, deliberate subversive attack on them/us for decades now - we're seeing the consequence/end game of it all. 🥴

Having it broken down the way Yuri does - from a Soviet Propagandist defector speaking nearly 40 years ago - certainly helped giving me peace of mind.  ✌️ 

 

Brian Gerrish and Alex Thomson from UKColumn have also started an excellent video series thoroughly unpacking this stuff in our now, specifically in relation to the UK. I'm currently watching it for a second time.

 

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/psychological-attack-uk-start-series

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/psychological-attack-uk-part-2

 

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As this monumental heist and crime against humanity runs it's course we have often looked to the historical records to find parallels with our current situation.

The architects of covid have repetedly compared our situation with that of the 1917-18 so-called pandemic.

 

Conveniently neglecting all mention of the 1957-58 Asian flu pandemic that was orders of magnitude more contagious and deadly than anything imagined by the covid tale spinners and was resolved in 3 months without lockdowns or mandated masks or other societal sabotage.

Also bringing up the 1917-18 pandemic raised questions about what really injured most people, experimental vaccines or bacterial pneumonia from wearing masks or both.

For me covid has made me rethink 1917-18 and examine the others more closely.

Europe apparently had a massive black plague that wiped out a great number of people.

 

The Sedlec Ossuary in Czechoslovakia houses tons of skeletons many from plague graves yet the bones are in open air and tourists flock there every year. Shouldn't yersinia pestis (black plague) be in the bones and prone to become airborne in the dust?

 

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Now, in our time the historical records will be updated once more to indicate the terrible epoch of covid and her variants. A prime example of the casual way they insert bs into our historical records.

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