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2 hours ago, TFH said:

 

A few days ago my girlfriend unexpectedly U-turned and told me she's "looking forward to getting the jab asap". 

 

I told her that I'm genuinely concerned about exchanging bodily fluids with someone who's got this untested material in their blood. 

 

She said smarmily "I don't really think that's how vaccines work" 

 

I said "firstly we don't know the effects of this untested vaccine and secondly it's not actually a vaccine"

 

She replied "what do you mean it's not a vaccine of course it is, why are they calling it a vaccine, then?" 

 

I said "it's gene therapy" 

 

She said "what's that?" 

 

I said "you're putting an untested substance in your body and you don't even know what it is?" 

 

She said (and in doing so completely denies the fact it's not a vaccine and ia an untested gene therapy) "oh well I guess we won't be having sex after I get jabbed" 

 

I said "I guess we won't be" 

 

-----

 

She's been lost to the cult of compliance and now applies the pejorative that I just "overthink everything". 

 

Obviously I'm heartbroken because I know where this is going (the end of us as a couple fairly soon).

 

I'm already grieving the loss of several friends who are treating me like a demon for not swallowing the covid propaganda whole. 

 

The alternative (as I see it)? 

 

Keeping these people happy and in my life by living a lie and taking the jab. 

 

I'm certainly not doing that - having seen firsthand the serious damage vaccines can cause - so it's going to be a far quieter life for me. 

 

I've come to a painful conclusion that I need to rid myself of nearly everyone I love and start making new friends who are likeminded (I have one so far, and an awake brother). 

 

The reality is that I've already lost these people. They're already gone. They're not really who I thought they were. I'm not like them. I'm going to be relatively alone for a while until I meet some new people who see things as I do.

 

But, I believe it's better that than to sell myself down the river and live a lie.

 

The real tragedy for me is that the people I'm going to be leaving behind are so hopelessly brainwashed that they literally don't understand why I'm walking away from them. That's what really breaks my heart.. that they can't even hear my point of view because their cognitive dissonance won't allow it. 

 

Perhaps, just perhaps, they'll ask themselves why I'm no longer in their lives anymore and it might wake up one or two of them and get them asking better questions. 

 

💚

 

Out of likes.

 

Cult of compliance.....a great description.

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3 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

She will buy my food from supermarket but not my 6 pack of Fosters Lager , I'm gonna have to stand outside the supermarket like a Teenager and ask some stranger to buy my Beer 🍺 , honestly who would believe this shit is happening.

Mate, we’ll all be doing that for whatever forbidden items we’re being denied😂

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2 hours ago, Fluke said:

It really is remarkable how I was warning people back in march last year and people either took the piss or said there wont be a vaccine it takes years to come up with one. Yes i agree it does take years. Not one of them turns around and says "actually you know what you were right about this". Not that i want or need validation in fact i was hoping i was wrong. 

 

I have noticed all the idiots that were telling us to stay home last year have become incredibly quiet. 

 

 

 

 

 

A member of my family laughed in my face last March when I told him the 'curve flattening' bollocks  would lead to them wanting to vaccinate us all with killer juice.

He avoids  me bigtime nowadays and never mentions it either.

Then again, he always was a wanker. Why should I care.

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2 hours ago, TFH said:

 

A few days ago my girlfriend unexpectedly U-turned and told me she's "looking forward to getting the jab asap". 

 

I told her that I'm genuinely concerned about exchanging bodily fluids with someone who's got this untested material in their blood. 

 

She said smarmily "I don't really think that's how vaccines work" 

 

I said "firstly we don't know the effects of this untested vaccine and secondly it's not actually a vaccine"

 

She replied "what do you mean it's not a vaccine of course it is, why are they calling it a vaccine, then?" 

 

I said "it's gene therapy" 

 

She said "what's that?" 

 

I said "you're putting an untested substance in your body and you don't even know what it is?" 

 

She said (and in doing so completely denies the fact it's not a vaccine and ia an untested gene therapy) "oh well I guess we won't be having sex after I get jabbed" 

 

I said "I guess we won't be" 

 

-----

 

She's been lost to the cult of compliance and now applies the pejorative that I just "overthink everything". 

 

Obviously I'm heartbroken because I know where this is going (the end of us as a couple fairly soon).

 

I'm already grieving the loss of several friends who are treating me like a demon for not swallowing the covid propaganda whole. 

 

The alternative (as I see it)? 

 

Keeping these people happy and in my life by living a lie and taking the jab. 

 

I'm certainly not doing that - having seen firsthand the serious damage vaccines can cause - so it's going to be a far quieter life for me. 

 

I've come to a painful conclusion that I need to rid myself of nearly everyone I love and start making new friends who are likeminded (I have one so far, and an awake brother). 

 

The reality is that I've already lost these people. They're already gone. They're not really who I thought they were. I'm not like them. I'm going to be relatively alone for a while until I meet some new people who see things as I do.

 

But, I believe it's better that than to sell myself down the river and live a lie.

 

The real tragedy for me is that the people I'm going to be leaving behind are so hopelessly brainwashed that they literally don't understand why I'm walking away from them. That's what really breaks my heart.. that they can't even hear my point of view because their cognitive dissonance won't allow it. 

 

Perhaps, just perhaps, they'll ask themselves why I'm no longer in their lives anymore and it might wake up one or two of them and get them asking better questions. 

 

💚

A lot of people use the criticism that we over think or think too much, but it's quite clear from this situation that the problem lies in people not thinking enough. 

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2 hours ago, Covidiot said:

 

That sucks mate. I'm not sure how I would deal with that situation. I feel very fortunate that my Mrs at least seems to be against all this rubbish and supportive of my views. Although if/when push comes to shove I know the Mrs will take the vaxx but like you it won't make me change my mind.

 

Thank God my wife is with me all the way and has also refused the satan juice.

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20 minutes ago, Mr H said:

well you have real life example of this. last time i checked only 5 fines that have gone to court have been paid. everything is done on threats and intimidation. including it seems this travel nonsense. as i already mentioned. you can travel from heathrow and not be questioned or stopped about where you're going (accorrding to vids i have seen real life examples) whole thing is psy op.

I have this from my daughter when we were on the 9pm curfew. Cops pulled a young guy over and wanted to fine him for curfew breach, he told them he won’t be paying it but will go through the court, so they didn’t issue it. Keystone Cops 

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1 hour ago, Frankieboy said:

20 min  Swiss newspaper asked its readers:


Would you get vaccinated to get into bars and clubs?

 

I want to get vaccinated against the virus anyway.
24%

Yes, the stain would be a reason.
3%

Under no circumstance.
65%

I do not know.
4%

I am already vaccinated.
4%
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VOTES

 

65% eh?

Very encouraging news.

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2 hours ago, TFH said:

 

A few days ago my girlfriend unexpectedly U-turned and told me she's "looking forward to getting the jab asap". 

 

I told her that I'm genuinely concerned about exchanging bodily fluids with someone who's got this untested material in their blood. 

 

She said smarmily "I don't really think that's how vaccines work" 

 

I said "firstly we don't know the effects of this untested vaccine and secondly it's not actually a vaccine"

 

She replied "what do you mean it's not a vaccine of course it is, why are they calling it a vaccine, then?" 

 

I said "it's gene therapy" 

 

She said "what's that?" 

 

I said "you're putting an untested substance in your body and you don't even know what it is?" 

 

She said (and in doing so completely denies the fact it's not a vaccine and ia an untested gene therapy) "oh well I guess we won't be having sex after I get jabbed" 

 

I said "I guess we won't be" 

 

-----

 

She's been lost to the cult of compliance and now applies the pejorative that I just "overthink everything". 

 

Obviously I'm heartbroken because I know where this is going (the end of us as a couple fairly soon).

 

I'm already grieving the loss of several friends who are treating me like a demon for not swallowing the covid propaganda whole. 

 

The alternative (as I see it)? 

 

Keeping these people happy and in my life by living a lie and taking the jab. 

 

I'm certainly not doing that - having seen firsthand the serious damage vaccines can cause - so it's going to be a far quieter life for me. 

 

I've come to a painful conclusion that I need to rid myself of nearly everyone I love and start making new friends who are likeminded (I have one so far, and an awake brother). 

 

The reality is that I've already lost these people. They're already gone. They're not really who I thought they were. I'm not like them. I'm going to be relatively alone for a while until I meet some new people who see things as I do.

 

But, I believe it's better that than to sell myself down the river and live a lie.

 

The real tragedy for me is that the people I'm going to be leaving behind are so hopelessly brainwashed that they literally don't understand why I'm walking away from them. That's what really breaks my heart.. that they can't even hear my point of view because their cognitive dissonance won't allow it. 

 

Perhaps, just perhaps, they'll ask themselves why I'm no longer in their lives anymore and it might wake up one or two of them and get them asking better questions. 

 

💚

 

Any idea what is the exact reason your girlfriend has U-turned, to now comply to take the vaxxine ASAP?    The majority have bent over backwards with COVID compliance, starting with 3 weeks of lockdown to flatten the curve, social distancing, face coverings, Track and Trace and more to get back to normal.  Busineses have spent a great deal of time and money being COVID secure and yet the part of the economy which is considered non essential has had to close again and again for a great deal of time.  If the lockdown had been for 3 months max. back in 2020 then things would have got back to normality, however we have long since gone past that point of no great damage. 

 

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was on the TV news this morning, which I only caught by chance, he was saying to get your jabs this year and then to get the booster shots every year thereafter.

 

If one chooses to take the vaxxine it is never going to stop.

 

I hope your girlfriend changes her mind or at the very least delays in taking the vaccine as long as possible.

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37 minutes ago, Mr H said:

well you have real life example of this. last time i checked only 5 fines that have gone to court have been paid. everything is done on threats and intimidation. including it seems this travel nonsense. as i already mentioned. you can travel from heathrow and not be questioned or stopped about where you're going (accorrding to vids i have seen real life examples) whole thing is psy op.

 

All a bluff yes & why is guidance & not law. Yet officers are willingly going against their oaf & falsely unlawfully arresting people. If the courts throw all these cases out then the government & police should be held accountable for their crimes.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Outsider said:

A lot of people use the criticism that we over think or think too much, but it's quite clear from this situation that the problem lies in people not thinking enough. 

Thinking too much is BAD now...according to the NYTimes🥴

 

Don’t Go Down the Rabbit Hole

Critical thinking, as we’re taught to do it, isn’t helping in the fight against misinformation.
 

Stop overthinking what you see online.

 

But Mr. Caulfield argues the deck is stacked even further against us. That the way we’re taught from a young age to evaluate and think critically about information is fundamentally flawed and out of step with the chaos of the current internet.

 

It’s often counterproductive to engage directly with content from an unknown source, and people can be led astray by false information.

 

Use Wikipedia for quick guidance! Spend less time torturing yourself with complex primary sources!

 

That's just a quick grab of the endless drivel in this article opening declaring that we are thinking too much. lol

 

https://archive.ph/9VBwI

 
 
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9 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

 

 

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was on the TV news this morning, which I only caught by chance, he was saying to get your jabs this year and then to get the booster shots every year there after.

 

 

 

Perhaps Mr Welby should pull out his bible and turn to Matthew 9:12 where he will read:

 

 “Those who are well have no need of a physician"

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You can see the MSM are ramping up the supposed debate on vaccine passports etc. Drip by drip they are increasing the amount of time spent with this topic in the news...getting people ready for the inevitable. Makes my blood boil.

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Another horror has been discovered regarding the so called "covid vaccines". THEY ARE CODED. The codes designate if the poor, or those in nursing homes, or the wealthy receive the particular  batches. Codes for the poor, only the poor get those coded batches signifying "the poor". Same for nursing homes. They have their own code. This was discovered when some wealthy "kids" snatched covid vaccines that were coded for the "poor". Are all those batches the same?? I doubt it. Here is a link:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/WhctKJWQgldXXZkDRVrkcPBQkwQcRcMDZFMSsfCrgwSktHxgzxpPVnTxQJjcJXLSqvwxXkL

 

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1 minute ago, Beth said:

Another horror has been discovered regarding the so called "covid vaccines". THEY ARE CODED. The codes designate if the poor, or those in nursing homes, or the wealthy receive the particular  batches. Codes for the poor, only the poor get those coded batches signifying "the poor". Same for nursing homes. They have their own code. This was discovered when some wealthy "kids" snatched covid vaccines that were coded for the "poor". Are all those batches the same?? I doubt it. Here is a link:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/WhctKJWQgldXXZkDRVrkcPBQkwQcRcMDZFMSsfCrgwSktHxgzxpPVnTxQJjcJXLSqvwxXkL

 

 

Firstly that link doesn't work because it is in your private email account. try screenshot it or copy and paste. 

 

I had my theories about this but had no proof. How else would it explain people in nursing homes having such a bad reaction while other people not. 

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4 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Sp happy days festivals etc being announced everyone is returning to normal right?

 

Or are we in for more lockdowns etc......

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“I don’t think June will happen... but fancy spunking 80 quid on something that isn’t going to happen in August” 

 

Alreet pal.

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12 minutes ago, Beth said:

Another horror has been discovered regarding the so called "covid vaccines". THEY ARE CODED. The codes designate if the poor, or those in nursing homes, or the wealthy receive the particular  batches. Codes for the poor, only the poor get those coded batches signifying "the poor". Same for nursing homes. They have their own code. This was discovered when some wealthy "kids" snatched covid vaccines that were coded for the "poor". Are all those batches the same?? I doubt it. Here is a link:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/WhctKJWQgldXXZkDRVrkcPBQkwQcRcMDZFMSsfCrgwSktHxgzxpPVnTxQJjcJXLSqvwxXkL

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